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Anonymous wrote:I feel like your wife. I'm wiped out and feel like I have nothing to give. I think if I didn't have to work, plus shop, cook, clean, pack lunches, and do drop offs and pick ups, I'd have something left for my husband but I am all tapped out. Libido zero. Energy zero.

Don't be surprised when he strays then. It never ceases to amaze me how the person you took vows with, the person who is supposed to be your true love and soul mate, gets pushed to the back burner. Really, prioritizing packing lunches over your life partner? You're sad and pathetic.

Why so hostile towards someone who's acknowledging that the overwhelming responsibilities towards kids and household and job take their toll, especially on women, who rightly feel so much is dumped on them? Packing lunches is about feeding your kids. Maybe in your world of twoo luv and soulmates, kids just hover around the fuzzy edges of life, smiling and looking cute, but in the real world, they have needs that you have to meet unless you want Child Protective Services at your door.

Then don't bitch when your partner strays or is disinterested. If you can't figure out a way to also nurture and cultivate your MARRIAGE, you deserve what you get. All of what you discussed are the fruits of that marriage--children and family time. Why do so many women (and I am a woman) think it's completely acceptable to make their life partner last on their list of everything? You can make fun of me all you want and mock me by writing "twoo luv" but that just tells me that you must be in a sad marriage. You can and should have true love and prioritize it and cultivate it. What, did you marry just to have a sperm donor? Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic.

Let me put it to you straight: women put their partners last on their list because their partners put THEM last on their list. When you abdicate your household responsibilities (like so many men do) that's putting your partner last on your list. Men need to grow up and realize that they are managing a household TOGETHER and not expect that their juvenile fantasies will be automatically met.

It is not a juvenile fantasy to expect a normal/regular sexlife. And if the man's contributions to household responsibilities are indeed the reason she doesn't want sex, she should be telling him exactly that. I'm not hearing this from OP.

No doubt there are some men who do nothing around the house: shame on them!

Alot of women however lack the ability to walk away from (or outsource) household responsibilities that SHOULD BE ABDICATED.
If packing lunches uses up all available time, or exhausts you, to the point where sex is of the table, then give the kids $6 to buy their lunch.
Some women will NEVER prioritize the spousal relationship, REGARDLESS of how many household responsibilities the man takes on.
Her list is endless because "the household" is fundamentally more important to her than "the marriage" and, no matter what he does, she can easily invent new things that always take priority over couple time.

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Anonymous wrote:Your entire post is about blaming your wife!

I didn't change..she did.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like your wife. I'm wiped out and feel like I have nothing to give. I think if I didn't have to work, plus shop, cook, clean, pack lunches, and do drop offs and pick ups, I'd have something left for my husband but I am all tapped out. Libido zero. Energy zero.

Don't be surprised when he strays then. It never ceases to amaze me how the person you took vows with, the person who is supposed to be your true love and soul mate, gets pushed to the back burner. Really, prioritizing packing lunches over your life partner? You're sad and pathetic.

Why so hostile towards someone who's acknowledging that the overwhelming responsibilities towards kids and household and job take their toll, especially on women, who rightly feel so much is dumped on them? Packing lunches is about feeding your kids. Maybe in your world of twoo luv and soulmates, kids just hover around the fuzzy edges of life, smiling and looking cute, but in the real world, they have needs that you have to meet unless you want Child Protective Services at your door.

Then don't bitch when your partner strays or is disinterested. If you can't figure out a way to also nurture and cultivate your MARRIAGE, you deserve what you get. All of what you discussed are the fruits of that marriage--children and family time. Why do so many women (and I am a woman) think it's completely acceptable to make their life partner last on their list of everything? You can make fun of me all you want and mock me by writing "twoo luv" but that just tells me that you must be in a sad marriage. You can and should have true love and prioritize it and cultivate it. What, did you marry just to have a sperm donor? Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic.

Let me put it to you straight: women put their partners last on their list because their partners put THEM last on their list. When you abdicate your household responsibilities (like so many men do) that's putting your partner last on your list. Men need to grow up and realize that they are managing a household TOGETHER and not expect that their juvenile fantasies will be automatically met.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like your wife. I'm wiped out and feel like I have nothing to give. I think if I didn't have to work, plus shop, cook, clean, pack lunches, and do drop offs and pick ups, I'd have something left for my husband but I am all tapped out. Libido zero. Energy zero.

Don't be surprised when he strays then. It never ceases to amaze me how the person you took vows with, the person who is supposed to be your true love and soul mate, gets pushed to the back burner. Really, prioritizing packing lunches over your life partner? You're sad and pathetic.

Why so hostile towards someone who's acknowledging that the overwhelming responsibilities towards kids and household and job take their toll, especially on women, who rightly feel so much is dumped on them? Packing lunches is about feeding your kids. Maybe in your world of twoo luv and soulmates, kids just hover around the fuzzy edges of life, smiling and looking cute, but in the real world, they have needs that you have to meet unless you want Child Protective Services at your door.

I had that same thought. What kind of person would forgo feeding their children lunch in order to spend that time having sex?

Most schools have lunches you can buy. Problem solved. Now start burning up the covers.

Look. If your wife works full time, and you are so uninvolved in your family life that you don't even know if your kids school sells lunch or not, then you shouldn't be surprised she isn't sleeping with you.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like your wife. I'm wiped out and feel like I have nothing to give. I think if I didn't have to work, plus shop, cook, clean, pack lunches, and do drop offs and pick ups, I'd have something left for my husband but I am all tapped out. Libido zero. Energy zero.

Don't be surprised when he strays then. It never ceases to amaze me how the person you took vows with, the person who is supposed to be your true love and soul mate, gets pushed to the back burner. Really, prioritizing packing lunches over your life partner? You're sad and pathetic.

Why so hostile towards someone who's acknowledging that the overwhelming responsibilities towards kids and household and job take their toll, especially on women, who rightly feel so much is dumped on them? Packing lunches is about feeding your kids. Maybe in your world of twoo luv and soulmates, kids just hover around the fuzzy edges of life, smiling and looking cute, but in the real world, they have needs that you have to meet unless you want Child Protective Services at your door.

Then don't bitch when your partner strays or is disinterested. If you can't figure out a way to also nurture and cultivate your MARRIAGE, you deserve what you get. All of what you discussed are the fruits of that marriage--children and family time. Why do so many women (and I am a woman) think it's completely acceptable to make their life partner last on their list of everything? You can make fun of me all you want and mock me by writing "twoo luv" but that just tells me that you must be in a sad marriage. You can and should have true love and prioritize it and cultivate it. What, did you marry just to have a sperm donor? Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic.

Let me put it to you straight: women put their partners last on their list because their partners put THEM last on their list. When you abdicate your household responsibilities (like so many men do) that's putting your partner last on your list. Men need to grow up and realize that they are managing a household TOGETHER and not expect that their juvenile fantasies will be automatically met.

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Anonymous wrote:So PP- how did your second affair partner take it when you broke it off?

She had a near miss and was almost caught by her DH. She suggested breaking it off, I was fine with it.

Didn't develop any feelings at all for your affair partner?

And if your wife's libido now is higher and you're older with a lower drive, do you worry that she'll stray?

Look pp. I don't see how you are not getting this. Sex is an all important part of connection in a marriage. It is the only way that a man can feel connected to his wife or really even "feel married." However, in an affair, sex does not offer a connection, and it does not make people feel married. You need the actual wedding rings for it to be bonding. I think maybe something about the gold from the rings changes the way hormones work.

So sex in a marriage is a bonding experience but sex outside of it is meaningless. So you cheated on your wife for some emotionless humping?

That emotionally bless humping was filling a void apparently. Why don't women understand if you're going to deprive a male of sex he is going to fill it somewhere else? Having a sexless marriage is worse than cheating because you've decided for two people they aren't going to have sex. If you don't want to then fine, but don't decide for your husband (or wife) that they're not going to either.

I knew an older couple and she hit menopause and basically dried up. She said she's not interested in sex anymore and bluntly told him she has no desire to maintain a sexual relationship. Then she was surprised when he eventually went outside the marriage to get laid. She was done having sex but he wasn't. How is that fair?

Right, how is that fair? So I guess every marriage should end when the woman hits 50 and then man gets to go look for new partners. Good luck, men.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like your wife. I'm wiped out and feel like I have nothing to give. I think if I didn't have to work, plus shop, cook, clean, pack lunches, and do drop offs and pick ups, I'd have something left for my husband but I am all tapped out. Libido zero. Energy zero.

Don't be surprised when he strays then. It never ceases to amaze me how the person you took vows with, the person who is supposed to be your true love and soul mate, gets pushed to the back burner. Really, prioritizing packing lunches over your life partner? You're sad and pathetic.

Why so hostile towards someone who's acknowledging that the overwhelming responsibilities towards kids and household and job take their toll, especially on women, who rightly feel so much is dumped on them? Packing lunches is about feeding your kids. Maybe in your world of twoo luv and soulmates, kids just hover around the fuzzy edges of life, smiling and looking cute, but in the real world, they have needs that you have to meet unless you want Child Protective Services at your door.

Then don't bitch when your partner strays or is disinterested. If you can't figure out a way to also nurture and cultivate your MARRIAGE, you deserve what you get. All of what you discussed are the fruits of that marriage--children and family time. Why do so many women (and I am a woman) think it's completely acceptable to make their life partner last on their list of everything? You can make fun of me all you want and mock me by writing "twoo luv" but that just tells me that you must be in a sad marriage. You can and should have true love and prioritize it and cultivate it. What, did you marry just to have a sperm donor? Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic.

Let me put it to you straight: women put their partners last on their list because their partners put THEM last on their list. When you abdicate your household responsibilities (like so many men do) that's putting your partner last on your list. Men need to grow up and realize that they are managing a household TOGETHER and not expect that their juvenile fantasies will be automatically met.

Interesting notion. So then when a guy gets married and expect his wife to be the same person he married - then she turns into raging b$tch and denies him a very basic and important tenant of marriage he should be okay with that? Sounds like he was robbed blind to me. If there was a case for young men to see why not to get married and have kids you just came up with the entire campaign.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like your wife. I'm wiped out and feel like I have nothing to give. I think if I didn't have to work, plus shop, cook, clean, pack lunches, and do drop offs and pick ups, I'd have something left for my husband but I am all tapped out. Libido zero. Energy zero.

Don't be surprised when he strays then. It never ceases to amaze me how the person you took vows with, the person who is supposed to be your true love and soul mate, gets pushed to the back burner. Really, prioritizing packing lunches over your life partner? You're sad and pathetic.

Why so hostile towards someone who's acknowledging that the overwhelming responsibilities towards kids and household and job take their toll, especially on women, who rightly feel so much is dumped on them? Packing lunches is about feeding your kids. Maybe in your world of twoo luv and soulmates, kids just hover around the fuzzy edges of life, smiling and looking cute, but in the real world, they have needs that you have to meet unless you want Child Protective Services at your door.

I had that same thought. What kind of person would forgo feeding their children lunch in order to spend that time having sex?

Most schools have lunches you can buy. Problem solved. Now start burning up the covers.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like your wife. I'm wiped out and feel like I have nothing to give. I think if I didn't have to work, plus shop, cook, clean, pack lunches, and do drop offs and pick ups, I'd have something left for my husband but I am all tapped out. Libido zero. Energy zero.

Don't be surprised when he strays then. It never ceases to amaze me how the person you took vows with, the person who is supposed to be your true love and soul mate, gets pushed to the back burner. Really, prioritizing packing lunches over your life partner? You're sad and pathetic.

Why so hostile towards someone who's acknowledging that the overwhelming responsibilities towards kids and household and job take their toll, especially on women, who rightly feel so much is dumped on them? Packing lunches is about feeding your kids. Maybe in your world of twoo luv and soulmates, kids just hover around the fuzzy edges of life, smiling and looking cute, but in the real world, they have needs that you have to meet unless you want Child Protective Services at your door.

Then don't bitch when your partner strays or is disinterested. If you can't figure out a way to also nurture and cultivate your MARRIAGE, you deserve what you get. All of what you discussed are the fruits of that marriage--children and family time. Why do so many women (and I am a woman) think it's completely acceptable to make their life partner last on their list of everything? You can make fun of me all you want and mock me by writing "twoo luv" but that just tells me that you must be in a sad marriage. You can and should have true love and prioritize it and cultivate it. What, did you marry just to have a sperm donor? Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic.

Let me put it to you straight: women put their partners last on their list because their partners put THEM last on their list. When you abdicate your household responsibilities (like so many men do) that's putting your partner last on your list. Men need to grow up and realize that they are managing a household TOGETHER and not expect that their juvenile fantasies will be automatically met.

Interesting notion. So then when a guy gets married and expect his wife to be the same person he married - then she turns into raging b$tch and denies him a very basic and important tenant of marriage he should be okay with that? Sounds like he was robbed blind to me. If there was a case for young men to see why not to get married and have kids you just came up with the entire campaign.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like your wife. I'm wiped out and feel like I have nothing to give. I think if I didn't have to work, plus shop, cook, clean, pack lunches, and do drop offs and pick ups, I'd have something left for my husband but I am all tapped out. Libido zero. Energy zero.

Don't be surprised when he strays then. It never ceases to amaze me how the person you took vows with, the person who is supposed to be your true love and soul mate, gets pushed to the back burner. Really, prioritizing packing lunches over your life partner? You're sad and pathetic.

Why so hostile towards someone who's acknowledging that the overwhelming responsibilities towards kids and household and job take their toll, especially on women, who rightly feel so much is dumped on them? Packing lunches is about feeding your kids. Maybe in your world of twoo luv and soulmates, kids just hover around the fuzzy edges of life, smiling and looking cute, but in the real world, they have needs that you have to meet unless you want Child Protective Services at your door.

I had that same thought. What kind of person would forgo feeding their children lunch in order to spend that time having sex?

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Anonymous wrote:So PP- how did your second affair partner take it when you broke it off?

She had a near miss and was almost caught by her DH. She suggested breaking it off, I was fine with it.

Didn't develop any feelings at all for your affair partner?

And if your wife's libido now is higher and you're older with a lower drive, do you worry that she'll stray?

Look pp. I don't see how you are not getting this. Sex is an all important part of connection in a marriage. It is the only way that a man can feel connected to his wife or really even "feel married." However, in an affair, sex does not offer a connection, and it does not make people feel married. You need the actual wedding rings for it to be bonding. I think maybe something about the gold from the rings changes the way hormones work.

So sex in a marriage is a bonding experience but sex outside of it is meaningless. So you cheated on your wife for some emotionless humping?

That emotionally bless humping was filling a void apparently. Why don't women understand if you're going to deprive a male of sex he is going to fill it somewhere else? Having a sexless marriage is worse than cheating because you've decided for two people they aren't going to have sex. If you don't want to then fine, but don't decide for your husband (or wife) that they're not going to either.

I knew an older couple and she hit menopause and basically dried up. She said she's not interested in sex anymore and bluntly told him she has no desire to maintain a sexual relationship. Then she was surprised when he eventually went outside the marriage to get laid. She was done having sex but he wasn't. How is that fair?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like your wife. I'm wiped out and feel like I have nothing to give. I think if I didn't have to work, plus shop, cook, clean, pack lunches, and do drop offs and pick ups, I'd have something left for my husband but I am all tapped out. Libido zero. Energy zero.

Don't be surprised when he strays then. It never ceases to amaze me how the person you took vows with, the person who is supposed to be your true love and soul mate, gets pushed to the back burner. Really, prioritizing packing lunches over your life partner? You're sad and pathetic.

Why so hostile towards someone who's acknowledging that the overwhelming responsibilities towards kids and household and job take their toll, especially on women, who rightly feel so much is dumped on them? Packing lunches is about feeding your kids. Maybe in your world of twoo luv and soulmates, kids just hover around the fuzzy edges of life, smiling and looking cute, but in the real world, they have needs that you have to meet unless you want Child Protective Services at your door.

Then don't bitch when your partner strays or is disinterested. If you can't figure out a way to also nurture and cultivate your MARRIAGE, you deserve what you get. All of what you discussed are the fruits of that marriage--children and family time. Why do so many women (and I am a woman) think it's completely acceptable to make their life partner last on their list of everything? You can make fun of me all you want and mock me by writing "twoo luv" but that just tells me that you must be in a sad marriage. You can and should have true love and prioritize it and cultivate it. What, did you marry just to have a sperm donor? Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic.

Let me put it to you straight: women put their partners last on their list because their partners put THEM last on their list. When you abdicate your household responsibilities (like so many men do) that's putting your partner last on your list. Men need to grow up and realize that they are managing a household TOGETHER and not expect that their juvenile fantasies will be automatically met.

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Anonymous wrote:So PP- how did your second affair partner take it when you broke it off?

She had a near miss and was almost caught by her DH. She suggested breaking it off, I was fine with it.

Didn't develop any feelings at all for your affair partner?

And if your wife's libido now is higher and you're older with a lower drive, do you worry that she'll stray?

Look pp. I don't see how you are not getting this. Sex is an all important part of connection in a marriage. It is the only way that a man can feel connected to his wife or really even "feel married." However, in an affair, sex does not offer a connection, and it does not make people feel married. You need the actual wedding rings for it to be bonding. I think maybe something about the gold from the rings changes the way hormones work.

So sex in a marriage is a bonding experience but sex outside of it is meaningless. So you cheated on your wife for some emotionless humping?