Anonymous
10/14/2016 23:09
Subject: Halloween costume - offensive ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Np: I'm just gonna put it out there – my son is going as Bart Simpson this Halloween and will be wearing a full body, including head, yellow bodysuit. So if any of you have jaundice, I am sorry. The costume is not meant to be offensive, it is simply a reflection of my sons love of The Simpsons.
FWIW, he did have jaundice as a baby.
Are you comparing dressing as Bart Simpson to dressing as a Native American or those who wear Black Face?
Yes, yes I am - I don't think a 7yo dressing as a Native American is offensive and I'm part Native American.
You are either part of a tribe or you are not. You'd know that if you were actually Native American.
I do know that, thank you.
Anonymous
10/14/2016 21:57
Subject: Halloween costume - offensive ?
very very offensive.
Anonymous
10/14/2016 20:32
Subject: Halloween costume - offensive ?
Anonymous wrote:what about an Eskimo costume - if its a SPECIFIC historical or mythological person.
I was wondering that myself. My DD dressed as an Eskimo last year. She wanted to again this year and I was debating whether to discourage her or not. We are part Scandinavian, and possibly part Saami. The Saami are indigenous Scandinavians whose ancestry is slightly Asian, and the Eskimos/Inuit have Asian blood. Who really knows what someone's genetic makeup is by looking at them anyway?
Anonymous
10/14/2016 20:22
Subject: Re:Halloween costume - offensive ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It wouldn't bother me at all, but as this board illustrates, some people would find it distasteful or even offensive and might judge you and your daughter for it. Which sucks, but it is what it is.
It seems like a lot of people here agree that it is okay to dress up as Sacagawea, but not as a generic "Indian girl." The problem with that is, how are people supposed to know she is Sacagawea? Would she be wearing a nametag? Because if it isn't obvious, people who don't ask might be offended regardless.
I mean, folks can ask her. My oldest dressed up as a major character from a out-of-date children's book last year, and almost everyone asked who she was. Older folks in particular were charmed to hear her answer.
If OP's daughter wanted to be Sacajawea, she could start by looking up what kinds of clothes were common for Shoshone women. Since she's famous for, in part, carrying her baby with her, she could wear a baby carrier with a doll. She could carry a map. Something. Anything but "generic Indian girl."
Or she could add a paddle and a pair of binoculars which would be cool. Cry out, "Louie! Clark! Where are those guys?" Make a necklace out of liberty dollar coins, or glue them to a sash?
Dressing up as someone is different than dressing up as something. Reducing a NA to a thing isn't cool.
Anonymous
10/14/2016 20:16
Subject: Halloween costume - offensive ?
what about an Eskimo costume - if its a SPECIFIC historical or mythological person.
Anonymous
10/14/2016 20:05
Subject: Halloween costume - offensive ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Np: I'm just gonna put it out there – my son is going as Bart Simpson this Halloween and will be wearing a full body, including head, yellow bodysuit. So if any of you have jaundice, I am sorry. The costume is not meant to be offensive, it is simply a reflection of my sons love of The Simpsons.
FWIW, he did have jaundice as a baby.
Are you comparing dressing as Bart Simpson to dressing as a Native American or those who wear Black Face?
Yes, yes I am - I don't think a 7yo dressing as a Native American is offensive and I'm part Native American.
You are either part of a tribe or you are not. You'd know that if you were actually Native American.
Anonymous
10/14/2016 18:29
Subject: Re:Halloween costume - offensive ?
OP, have your child dress up like a clown. What could be more delightful than a clown?
Anonymous
10/14/2016 18:22
Subject: Re:Halloween costume - offensive ?
Yeah, nobody wants to dress in an Orthodox Jew costume.
Anonymous
10/14/2016 18:06
Subject: Halloween costume - offensive ?
7 is not too young to teach lessons of respect, cultural appropriateness and humanity.
Anonymous
10/14/2016 15:03
Subject: Halloween costume - offensive ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Np: I'm just gonna put it out there – my son is going as Bart Simpson this Halloween and will be wearing a full body, including head, yellow bodysuit. So if any of you have jaundice, I am sorry. The costume is not meant to be offensive, it is simply a reflection of my sons love of The Simpsons.
FWIW, he did have jaundice as a baby.
Are you comparing dressing as Bart Simpson to dressing as a Native American or those who wear Black Face?
Yes, yes I am - I don't think a 7yo dressing as a Native American is offensive and I'm part Native American.
Ha. You're either a registered member of a recognized tribe or you're not. My guess with you is . . . not.
Ask a few of your Jewish friends what they think of the Orthodox costume, then get back to us.
Anonymous
10/14/2016 15:02
Subject: Halloween costume - offensive ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Np: I'm just gonna put it out there – my son is going as Bart Simpson this Halloween and will be wearing a full body, including head, yellow bodysuit. So if any of you have jaundice, I am sorry. The costume is not meant to be offensive, it is simply a reflection of my sons love of The Simpsons.
FWIW, he did have jaundice as a baby.
Since this is so amusing, suggest having him dress as an orthodox jew--payot and kippah.
Maybe not so funny now?
Still funny - these arguments are ridiculous! It's a 7yo Halloween costume, some of you are insufferable.
For all of you saying "it's just a costume", would you still say so if it was in blackface? I'm pretty sure every reasonable person knows that is not right (and in that specific case, even if your are dressing as a historical figure). Think about why that is not ok, and if those reasons would at least in part apply to other peoples.
Anonymous
10/14/2016 14:55
Subject: Halloween costume - offensive ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Np: I'm just gonna put it out there – my son is going as Bart Simpson this Halloween and will be wearing a full body, including head, yellow bodysuit. So if any of you have jaundice, I am sorry. The costume is not meant to be offensive, it is simply a reflection of my sons love of The Simpsons.
FWIW, he did have jaundice as a baby.
Are you comparing dressing as Bart Simpson to dressing as a Native American or those who wear Black Face?
Yes, yes I am - I don't think a 7yo dressing as a Native American is offensive and I'm part Native American.
Ah, the old "but my grandma's a Cherokee princess" defense.
Lies and more lies.
Anonymous
10/14/2016 14:41
Subject: Halloween costume - offensive ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Np: I'm just gonna put it out there – my son is going as Bart Simpson this Halloween and will be wearing a full body, including head, yellow bodysuit. So if any of you have jaundice, I am sorry. The costume is not meant to be offensive, it is simply a reflection of my sons love of The Simpsons.
FWIW, he did have jaundice as a baby.
Are you comparing dressing as Bart Simpson to dressing as a Native American or those who wear Black Face?
Yes, yes I am - I don't think a 7yo dressing as a Native American is offensive and I'm part Native American.
Anonymous
10/14/2016 14:40
Subject: Halloween costume - offensive ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Np: I'm just gonna put it out there – my son is going as Bart Simpson this Halloween and will be wearing a full body, including head, yellow bodysuit. So if any of you have jaundice, I am sorry. The costume is not meant to be offensive, it is simply a reflection of my sons love of The Simpsons.
FWIW, he did have jaundice as a baby.
Since this is so amusing, suggest having him dress as an orthodox jew--payot and kippah.
Maybe not so funny now?
Still funny - these arguments are ridiculous! It's a 7yo Halloween costume, some of you are insufferable.
+1,000
Anonymous
10/14/2016 14:39
Subject: Halloween costume - offensive ?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Np: I'm just gonna put it out there – my son is going as Bart Simpson this Halloween and will be wearing a full body, including head, yellow bodysuit. So if any of you have jaundice, I am sorry. The costume is not meant to be offensive, it is simply a reflection of my sons love of The Simpsons.
FWIW, he did have jaundice as a baby.
Since this is so amusing, suggest having him dress as an orthodox jew--payot and kippah.
Maybe not so funny now?
Still funny - these arguments are ridiculous! It's a 7yo Halloween costume, some of you are insufferable.