Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yet UVA doesn't seem to feel that way. That's the issue.

Yes, I know (I'm the PP). It's a real problem that they aren't accepting so many qualified kids, simply because they're from NOVA.

Average Navaince for TJ is very high: 4.3, SAT 2270 for 2015

Anonymous wrote:I agree that a college with student body mostly from one state is not necessarily a good thing. For one, perspective students may not be interested in attending a college where pretty much everyone comes from one particular state. So I'm ok with the current percentage of in state students at UVA. But I disagree with the school's practice of purposely limiting the number of NOVA students to make room for students from other parts of VA. I think all VA students should have to meet the same standards. A student from Va Beach does not add that much diversity to the school. At the end of the day, they are all VA students.

Nothing you say makes sense. Enjoy George Mason.

Really ridiculous when people complain about paying taxes that support the school. UVA gets approximately $1000/year/in state student from VA. For that they give a tuition reduction of $25,000 to each of those kids. Seems like a really crappy deal for the institution and yet some moron sitting in NOVA complains about paying taxes. UVA provides a great service to the state of VA and should be appreciated not criticized. The funds that were the basis of the article and the recent complaining did not come from tuition, fees, or operations. They were privately raised and invested. There should not have been any mandate to co-mingle with operations nor should they be ridiculed for being successful for investing those. Bravo to them for being smart investors. They could build some really interesting things with that money.

There are many other state universities in Virginia that receive a much larger percentage of state support, yet never receive the criticism that UVA and others do. Instead of complaining about UVA tuition being too high there are other options at many price points with greater state subsidies. If you don't like the way they run their business please pick somewhere else. But please don't complain that you are providing this mountain of tax revenue. I am sure that UVA would gladly give it all back for freedom to run their university as they see fit free from government harassment and self-important taxpayers.

Anonymous wrote:As for the article citing the school being broke... UVA's endowment is over $7B. Was it so hard for the good delegate to find this out?

You can't spend your endowment, right? You can only use the interest?

So sick of paying taxes which support this school (and W&M) and having so few kids from NOVA accepted.

5% of their budget comes from taxes, but 66% of the students are from VA and the majority of those are from Fairfax.

I agree that a college with student body mostly from one state is not necessarily a good thing. For one, perspective students may not be interested in attending a college where pretty much everyone comes from one particular state. So I'm ok with the current percentage of in state students at UVA. But I disagree with the school's practice of purposely limiting the number of NOVA students to make room for students from other parts of VA. I think all VA students should have to meet the same standards. A student from Va Beach does not add that much diversity to the school. At the end of the day, they are all VA students.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^I'm not sure how I feel about admitting more in state students and less from out of state. To a certain degree, UVA is as good as it is and considered a top national university (and therefor the reason we want our kids to attend) because of the intense competition out of state students face for admission and the caliber of students they are.

Hell no, with the quality of students from NoVA and Richmond UVA could fill all slots with top-notch in-state students and did not have to resort to internationals with fake credentials, essays and SAT scores. NoVA kids face the same competition as OOS percentage-wise and can certainly hold their own wrt "caliber" compared to OOS. And before you throw the "diversity" argument at me, the VA candidates have plenty of it, again due to diverse population in NoVA, Richmond and Hampton Roads.

Yes, there may be weaker contingent coming from poorer/rural VA counties, but as a state flagship if behooves UVA to give back to the community and educate kids from less advantaged localities.

As for the article citing the school being broke... UVA's endowment is over $7B. Was it so hard for the good delegate to find this out?

My point is simply that I question whether in the long run UVA would be considered a top national university if 90% or more are from nova. I know there are plenty of qualified nova students who get rejected, including mine who had top grades and scores and worked his butt off in high school.

What were his grades & scores?

Meant to say 90% from in state, not just nova.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^I'm not sure how I feel about admitting more in state students and less from out of state. To a certain degree, UVA is as good as it is and considered a top national university (and therefor the reason we want our kids to attend) because of the intense competition out of state students face for admission and the caliber of students they are.

Hell no, with the quality of students from NoVA and Richmond UVA could fill all slots with top-notch in-state students and did not have to resort to internationals with fake credentials, essays and SAT scores. NoVA kids face the same competition as OOS percentage-wise and can certainly hold their own wrt "caliber" compared to OOS. And before you throw the "diversity" argument at me, the VA candidates have plenty of it, again due to diverse population in NoVA, Richmond and Hampton Roads.

Yes, there may be weaker contingent coming from poorer/rural VA counties, but as a state flagship if behooves UVA to give back to the community and educate kids from less advantaged localities.

As for the article citing the school being broke... UVA's endowment is over $7B. Was it so hard for the good delegate to find this out?

My point is simply that I question whether in the long run UVA would be considered a top national university if 90% or more are from nova. I know there are plenty of qualified nova students who get rejected, including mine who had top grades and scores and worked his butt off in high school.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^I'm not sure how I feel about admitting more in state students and less from out of state. To a certain degree, UVA is as good as it is and considered a top national university (and therefor the reason we want our kids to attend) because of the intense competition out of state students face for admission and the caliber of students they are.

Hell no, with the quality of students from NoVA and Richmond UVA could fill all slots with top-notch in-state students and did not have to resort to internationals with fake credentials, essays and SAT scores. NoVA kids face the same competition as OOS percentage-wise and can certainly hold their own wrt "caliber" compared to OOS. And before you throw the "diversity" argument at me, the VA candidates have plenty of it, again due to diverse population in NoVA, Richmond and Hampton Roads.

Yes, there may be weaker contingent coming from poorer/rural VA counties, but as a state flagship if behooves UVA to give back to the community and educate kids from less advantaged localities.

As for the article citing the school being broke... UVA's endowment is over $7B. Was it so hard for the good delegate to find this out?

+1000
So sick of paying taxes which support this school (and W&M) and having so few kids from NOVA accepted.

Anonymous wrote:^I'm not sure how I feel about admitting more in state students and less from out of state. To a certain degree, UVA is as good as it is and considered a top national university (and therefor the reason we want our kids to attend) because of the intense competition out of state students face for admission and the caliber of students they are.

Hell no, with the quality of students from NoVA and Richmond UVA could fill all slots with top-notch in-state students and did not have to resort to internationals with fake credentials, essays and SAT scores. NoVA kids face the same competition as OOS percentage-wise and can certainly hold their own wrt "caliber" compared to OOS. And before you throw the "diversity" argument at me, the VA candidates have plenty of it, again due to diverse population in NoVA, Richmond and Hampton Roads.

Yes, there may be weaker contingent coming from poorer/rural VA counties, but as a state flagship if behooves UVA to give back to the community and educate kids from less advantaged localities.

As for the article citing the school being broke... UVA's endowment is over $7B. Was it so hard for the good delegate to find this out?

And if the state is only funding 5% of the university, I don't know why the Legislature feels they get to have that much influence over what the University does. I assumed, as a state university, they were actually getting more support from the state. Five percent!

^I'm not sure how I feel about admitting more in state students and less from out of state. To a certain degree, UVA is as good as it is and considered a top national university (and therefor the reason we want our kids to attend) because of the intense competition out of state students face for admission and the caliber of students they are.

Interesting article in today's Wash. Post on this very subject:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/u-va-and-other-public-universities-have-stockpiled-billions-of-dollars-in-reserves/2016/08/25/72b7ac2a-664c-11e6-be4e-23fc4d4d12b4_story.html

"Del. David B. Albo (R-Fairfax) said that for years, lawmakers have pleaded with the university to expand the number of seats for Virginia students. About two-thirds of U-Va.’s 16,700 undergraduates come from within the state. The university has grown in-state enrollment somewhat, but lawmakers wish it would do far more.

“For the last 10 years, they told us: ‘We can’t, because we’re really broke. We need the money from the out-of-state students,’ ” Albo said. The lawmaker, a U-Va. alumnus, said he had long been sympathetic to that response because he knew state funding had decreased.

“Now I find out that was all a bunch of bull,” he said. “They’ve got the money. They just don’t want to do it.”

Anonymous wrote:Looking at the numbers (60% of those accepted go and 677 went from Fairfax), it seems that about a quarter of instate admissions are made to this one county?

Each undergrad class is approximately 4,000 students, one third of which is from outside of Virginia, so approximately 2,700 in each class are from Virginia. If 677 of them are from Fairfax then it looks well represented at UVA if our numbers are accurate. However, according to the US Census Bureau's 2012 numbers, it has more than double the population of any other county in the state.

Looking at the numbers (60% of those accepted go and 677 went from Fairfax), it seems that about a quarter of instate admissions are made to this one county?