Anonymous
07/21/2016 08:05
Subject: I don't want to supplement at home
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if they supplement at YY or LAMB outside of language supplementation?
Of course some of the high SES families supplement. Advanced/GT math isn't offered at YY, at least not formally, and LAMB's Montessori curriculum is pretty chaotic in the implementation in the upper grades. A good many high SES families quietly hire math tutors, send kids to summer enrichment programs, including DCPS summer school (mornings for 5 weeks from late June through July), Math Tree and Johns Hopkins CTY, no matter which public school their kids attend. We've run into YY and LAMB families at JH CTY in Alexandria. Parents with smarts know that, by 5th grade, the DCPS math curriculum is 2-3 years behind the math curricula of rich and middle-income countries that do a better job of teaching math than the US.
Anonymous
07/21/2016 07:59
Subject: Re:I don't want to supplement at home
Anonymous wrote:I'm having trouble figuring out where OP and other parents on this thread think supplementing-at-home starts and ends in its interface with your garden variety domesticity in the homes of affluent, uber educated parents. For example, we are a geography oriented family, meaning that we have "map time" before bed, rather than reading-a-story-time. We play "globe games" in the evenings, just for fun. Does our quirky bedtime routine constitute supplementing? We don't drill the kids in any subject in particular outside of the DCPS curriculum, but speak a language other than English at home (and consistently require the kids to answer in the language), and love history, politics, literature, anthropology, archeology and so forth. The kids pick up on our intellectual interests, and run with some of them in their reading, summer camp and play choices. We will opt out of standardized testing, lacking interest in how our children would score on the PARCC. Are we supplementing by making unusual lifestyle choices, or simply celebrating our joy of nerdy pursuits in a manner that draws in the next generation?
I hate when people do this. This thread is NOT about you and you know this is NOT what PPs were talking about. Go gush about your awesomeoness somewhere else.
Anonymous
07/21/2016 07:12
Subject: Re:I don't want to supplement at home
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP -- OP didn't ask if there is a school where no one supplements. There is no chance that such a school exists in the greater DC area. LOL. And that is fine-- parents' prerogative. But OP wants to know if it is possible to go to a DCPS school and have your child achieve an advanced track without the need to supplement. It is. We don't supplement either. No need to. Kids scored 5s on PARCC and are in the advanced track at Deal with no extra supplements or tutors.
Yes! this is the question. It sounds like there are places in DCPS where it is possible to achieve an advanced track without the need to supplement. Great! Wonderful! I'd like to go to these open houses. Can people please start identifying these schools? Thanks.
Murch and Deal for us.
Start identifying these DCPS schools? Please, it's a no brainer for anybody who's been in the city more than a month in Upper NW. The school are in Upper NW or on Cap Hill, the ones with the highest percentages of white and high SES families. Just look on the DCPS School Profile pages to find them. You set your own "floor" cut-off for high SES and white. So the group includes Janney, Lafayette, Ken, Murch, Man, Stoddert, maybe Hearst, Eaton, Shepherd and Brent for ES, and Deal and Wilson post ES.
Shepherd is neither majority white nor majority high SES.
What is a majority to you? Shepherd is 34% low income so 66% are not low income. How can you assume those 66% are not high income?
PP here. The school is definitely not majority high SES. I'm a current parent, and I'd say it has one of the largest solidly middle class % of families within DCPS. Yes, there are high SES families at Shepherd, but I've also met other parents who are teachers, fire fighters, police officers, cab drivers, hairdressers, etc.
Unlike some other DCPS schools that are almost exclusively high (JKLM, etc.) or low SES (almost every other school), I'd say Shepherd has one of the most socioeconomically diverse student bodies. And I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. Only some charters are comparable in terms of SES diversity, IMO.
Anonymous
07/21/2016 06:57
Subject: I don't want to supplement at home
Does anyone know if they supplement at YY or LAMB outside of language supplementation?
Anonymous
07/21/2016 06:53
Subject: Re:I don't want to supplement at home
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP -- OP didn't ask if there is a school where no one supplements. There is no chance that such a school exists in the greater DC area. LOL. And that is fine-- parents' prerogative. But OP wants to know if it is possible to go to a DCPS school and have your child achieve an advanced track without the need to supplement. It is. We don't supplement either. No need to. Kids scored 5s on PARCC and are in the advanced track at Deal with no extra supplements or tutors.
Yes! this is the question. It sounds like there are places in DCPS where it is possible to achieve an advanced track without the need to supplement. Great! Wonderful! I'd like to go to these open houses. Can people please start identifying these schools? Thanks.
Murch and Deal for us.
Start identifying these DCPS schools? Please, it's a no brainer for anybody who's been in the city more than a month in Upper NW. The school are in Upper NW or on Cap Hill, the ones with the highest percentages of white and high SES families. Just look on the DCPS School Profile pages to find them. You set your own "floor" cut-off for high SES and white. So the group includes Janney, Lafayette, Ken, Murch, Man, Stoddert, maybe Hearst, Eaton, Shepherd and Brent for ES, and Deal and Wilson post ES.
Wrong. Hearst, Eaton and Shepherd are definitely NOT on the list. Oyster belongs though. There are also a few "highly regarded charters" people leave JKLM for, so they should be included like Yu Ying and LAMB. You just can't count on buying your way into them like JKLM.
Because you have kids at these schools and know? I love how people just spout off with zero information.
Give me a break. Hardly anybody in-boundary avoids or leaves JKLM, or Brent, for Yu Ying or LAMB. The commute to YY is too much, and immersion without a target language dominant lottery is too lame. JKLM and Brent are much stronger academically, particularly for math in the upper grades.
Oh my God not Heritage Dad again. Jesus Christ idiot, it has been explained to you over and over again that immersion schools are not allowed to do a target language lottery!! I know of many families inbounds for the schools mentioned above who chose YY or LAMB. they're amazing schools with the bonus of immersion. Amazing. Some people (clearly not "lame" types like yourself) like that.
Anonymous
07/21/2016 00:20
Subject: Re:I don't want to supplement at home
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP -- OP didn't ask if there is a school where no one supplements. There is no chance that such a school exists in the greater DC area. LOL. And that is fine-- parents' prerogative. But OP wants to know if it is possible to go to a DCPS school and have your child achieve an advanced track without the need to supplement. It is. We don't supplement either. No need to. Kids scored 5s on PARCC and are in the advanced track at Deal with no extra supplements or tutors.
Yes! this is the question. It sounds like there are places in DCPS where it is possible to achieve an advanced track without the need to supplement. Great! Wonderful! I'd like to go to these open houses. Can people please start identifying these schools? Thanks.
Murch and Deal for us.
Start identifying these DCPS schools? Please, it's a no brainer for anybody who's been in the city more than a month in Upper NW. The school are in Upper NW or on Cap Hill, the ones with the highest percentages of white and high SES families. Just look on the DCPS School Profile pages to find them. You set your own "floor" cut-off for high SES and white. So the group includes Janney, Lafayette, Ken, Murch, Man, Stoddert, maybe Hearst, Eaton, Shepherd and Brent for ES, and Deal and Wilson post ES.
Wrong. Hearst, Eaton and Shepherd are definitely NOT on the list. Oyster belongs though. There are also a few "highly regarded charters" people leave JKLM for, so they should be included like Yu Ying and LAMB. You just can't count on buying your way into them like JKLM.
Because you have kids at these schools and know? I love how people just spout off with zero information.
Give me a break. Hardly anybody in-boundary avoids or leaves JKLM, or Brent, for Yu Ying or LAMB. The commute to YY is too much, and immersion without a target language dominant lottery is too lame. JKLM and Brent are much stronger academically, particularly for math in the upper grades.
Nope.
Anonymous
07/21/2016 00:09
Subject: Re:I don't want to supplement at home
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP -- OP didn't ask if there is a school where no one supplements. There is no chance that such a school exists in the greater DC area. LOL. And that is fine-- parents' prerogative. But OP wants to know if it is possible to go to a DCPS school and have your child achieve an advanced track without the need to supplement. It is. We don't supplement either. No need to. Kids scored 5s on PARCC and are in the advanced track at Deal with no extra supplements or tutors.
Yes! this is the question. It sounds like there are places in DCPS where it is possible to achieve an advanced track without the need to supplement. Great! Wonderful! I'd like to go to these open houses. Can people please start identifying these schools? Thanks.
Murch and Deal for us.
Start identifying these DCPS schools? Please, it's a no brainer for anybody who's been in the city more than a month in Upper NW. The school are in Upper NW or on Cap Hill, the ones with the highest percentages of white and high SES families. Just look on the DCPS School Profile pages to find them. You set your own "floor" cut-off for high SES and white. So the group includes Janney, Lafayette, Ken, Murch, Man, Stoddert, maybe Hearst, Eaton, Shepherd and Brent for ES, and Deal and Wilson post ES.
Shepherd is neither majority white nor majority high SES.
What is a majority to you? Shepherd is 34% low income so 66% are not low income. How can you assume those 66% are not high income?
Anonymous
07/20/2016 22:57
Subject: Re:I don't want to supplement at home
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP -- OP didn't ask if there is a school where no one supplements. There is no chance that such a school exists in the greater DC area. LOL. And that is fine-- parents' prerogative. But OP wants to know if it is possible to go to a DCPS school and have your child achieve an advanced track without the need to supplement. It is. We don't supplement either. No need to. Kids scored 5s on PARCC and are in the advanced track at Deal with no extra supplements or tutors.
Yes! this is the question. It sounds like there are places in DCPS where it is possible to achieve an advanced track without the need to supplement. Great! Wonderful! I'd like to go to these open houses. Can people please start identifying these schools? Thanks.
Murch and Deal for us.
Start identifying these DCPS schools? Please, it's a no brainer for anybody who's been in the city more than a month in Upper NW. The school are in Upper NW or on Cap Hill, the ones with the highest percentages of white and high SES families. Just look on the DCPS School Profile pages to find them. You set your own "floor" cut-off for high SES and white. So the group includes Janney, Lafayette, Ken, Murch, Man, Stoddert, maybe Hearst, Eaton, Shepherd and Brent for ES, and Deal and Wilson post ES.
Wrong. Hearst, Eaton and Shepherd are definitely NOT on the list. Oyster belongs though. There are also a few "highly regarded charters" people leave JKLM for, so they should be included like Yu Ying and LAMB. You just can't count on buying your way into them like JKLM.
Because you have kids at these schools and know? I love how people just spout off with zero information.
Give me a break. Hardly anybody in-boundary avoids or leaves JKLM, or Brent, for Yu Ying or LAMB. The commute to YY is too much, and immersion without a target language dominant lottery is too lame. JKLM and Brent are much stronger academically, particularly for math in the upper grades.
Anonymous
07/20/2016 18:07
Subject: Re:I don't want to supplement at home
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I mean, can you imagine the level of insecurity?
"You mustn't mention Kumon at school,Larla. Ever."
"Pourquoi pas, Mama? Is learning and enrichment shameful?"
"No, poppet! But we don't want to hand anything to anyone else. Let them do their own work!"
All seriousness: am I just coming from a position of massive privilege or ignorance that I don't understand your thinking at all? Was everything handed to me too easily?
No, your question is normal. That PP is batshit crazy.
Lol--you have no idea. I would never take my children to Kumon or any other such tutoring/enrichment center. All of my materials are in-house and proprietary
LOL - you have no idea. Developing your own curricular materials for elementary school and then getting agitated about it, is what's batshit crazy. We would never consider Kumon or your personal flavor of insanity.
There is a middle ground guano-lady.
Why do you care so much about what I do with MY children? I don't give a crap about what you do in your house. You sound crazy and insecure. Good luck with that!
Anonymous
07/20/2016 17:17
Subject: I don't want to supplement at home
Anonymous wrote:
Our ideal is a school where the kids get good fundamentals and are challenged to do advanced work (not necessarily "gifted"-- I am realistic about that). There will be homework from school but otherwise we can enjoy our limited family time doing sports, music, hiking, and enjoying each other's company. Is this possible in DC? I went to public schools myself and have plenty of friends from undergrad and grad school who also went to public schools and did very well academically. So I know private is not necessary. But a good public is...
No. Do yourself a favor and pay for private, that is what you want. You will need to pay $$$ for it though.
Anonymous
07/20/2016 16:48
Subject: I don't want to supplement at home
Folks, when you add on to someone else's exchange but you are a new poster, it is polite to say so; otherwise it looks like an exchange between 2 people when 16:16 has at least 4 maybe 5 different posters.
Anonymous
07/20/2016 16:45
Subject: Re:I don't want to supplement at home
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP -- OP didn't ask if there is a school where no one supplements. There is no chance that such a school exists in the greater DC area. LOL. And that is fine-- parents' prerogative. But OP wants to know if it is possible to go to a DCPS school and have your child achieve an advanced track without the need to supplement. It is. We don't supplement either. No need to. Kids scored 5s on PARCC and are in the advanced track at Deal with no extra supplements or tutors.
Yes! this is the question. It sounds like there are places in DCPS where it is possible to achieve an advanced track without the need to supplement. Great! Wonderful! I'd like to go to these open houses. Can people please start identifying these schools? Thanks.
Murch and Deal for us.
Start identifying these DCPS schools? Please, it's a no brainer for anybody who's been in the city more than a month in Upper NW. The school are in Upper NW or on Cap Hill, the ones with the highest percentages of white and high SES families. Just look on the DCPS School Profile pages to find them. You set your own "floor" cut-off for high SES and white. So the group includes Janney, Lafayette, Ken, Murch, Man, Stoddert, maybe Hearst, Eaton, Shepherd and Brent for ES, and Deal and Wilson post ES.
Wrong. Hearst, Eaton and Shepherd are definitely NOT on the list. Oyster belongs though. There are also a few "highly regarded charters" people leave JKLM for, so they should be included like Yu Ying and LAMB. You just can't count on buying your way into them like JKLM.
Because you have kids at these schools and know? I love how people just spout off with zero information.
Anonymous
07/20/2016 16:16
Subject: Re:I don't want to supplement at home
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP -- OP didn't ask if there is a school where no one supplements. There is no chance that such a school exists in the greater DC area. LOL. And that is fine-- parents' prerogative. But OP wants to know if it is possible to go to a DCPS school and have your child achieve an advanced track without the need to supplement. It is. We don't supplement either. No need to. Kids scored 5s on PARCC and are in the advanced track at Deal with no extra supplements or tutors.
Yes! this is the question. It sounds like there are places in DCPS where it is possible to achieve an advanced track without the need to supplement. Great! Wonderful! I'd like to go to these open houses. Can people please start identifying these schools? Thanks.
Murch and Deal for us.
Start identifying these DCPS schools? Please, it's a no brainer for anybody who's been in the city more than a month in Upper NW. The school are in Upper NW or on Cap Hill, the ones with the highest percentages of white and high SES families. Just look on the DCPS School Profile pages to find them. You set your own "floor" cut-off for high SES and white. So the group includes Janney, Lafayette, Ken, Murch, Man, Stoddert, maybe Hearst, Eaton, Shepherd and Brent for ES, and Deal and Wilson post ES.
Wrong. Hearst, Eaton and Shepherd are definitely NOT on the list. Oyster belongs though. There are also a few "highly regarded charters" people leave JKLM for, so they should be included like Yu Ying and LAMB. You just can't count on buying your way into them like JKLM.
Shepherd's academics are fine. I know a lot of very smart kids in upper elementary. And only a few of them have parents that might make up their own supplementary curriculum. Most are normal.
Anonymous
07/20/2016 16:06
Subject: Re:I don't want to supplement at home
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NP -- OP didn't ask if there is a school where no one supplements. There is no chance that such a school exists in the greater DC area. LOL. And that is fine-- parents' prerogative. But OP wants to know if it is possible to go to a DCPS school and have your child achieve an advanced track without the need to supplement. It is. We don't supplement either. No need to. Kids scored 5s on PARCC and are in the advanced track at Deal with no extra supplements or tutors.
Yes! this is the question. It sounds like there are places in DCPS where it is possible to achieve an advanced track without the need to supplement. Great! Wonderful! I'd like to go to these open houses. Can people please start identifying these schools? Thanks.
Murch and Deal for us.
Start identifying these DCPS schools? Please, it's a no brainer for anybody who's been in the city more than a month in Upper NW. The school are in Upper NW or on Cap Hill, the ones with the highest percentages of white and high SES families. Just look on the DCPS School Profile pages to find them. You set your own "floor" cut-off for high SES and white. So the group includes Janney, Lafayette, Ken, Murch, Man, Stoddert, maybe Hearst, Eaton, Shepherd and Brent for ES, and Deal and Wilson post ES.
Wrong. Hearst, Eaton and Shepherd are definitely NOT on the list. Oyster belongs though. There are also a few "highly regarded charters" people leave JKLM for, so they should be included like Yu Ying and LAMB. You just can't count on buying your way into them like JKLM.
I'd include Maury on that list too.
Anonymous
07/20/2016 15:40
Subject: Re:I don't want to supplement at home
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I mean, can you imagine the level of insecurity?
"You mustn't mention Kumon at school,Larla. Ever."
"Pourquoi pas, Mama? Is learning and enrichment shameful?"
"No, poppet! But we don't want to hand anything to anyone else. Let them do their own work!"
All seriousness: am I just coming from a position of massive privilege or ignorance that I don't understand your thinking at all? Was everything handed to me too easily?
No, your question is normal. That PP is batshit crazy.
Lol--you have no idea. I would never take my children to Kumon or any other such tutoring/enrichment center. All of my materials are in-house and proprietary
LOL - you have no idea. Developing your own curricular materials for elementary school and then getting agitated about it, is what's batshit crazy. We would never consider Kumon or your personal flavor of insanity.
There is a middle ground guano-lady.
