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Anonymous wrote:“Other man” here: I’ve played with probably a dozen married/partnered women over the years. In most cases, the woman had her spouse’s blessing (including one woman who was in a lesbian marriage).

The married woman playing solo:
The upside? Married women are completely uninhibited. They want to experiment in the bedroom in ways that does not interest their spouse. This often involves exploring kink & bdsm for the first time. They are ready to shed their “wife” persona when they walk through that door and just want a carnal experience with no drama. They are highly discreet and don’t want their kinky life and their vanilla life to cross paths. Women playing like this often complain about potential men being too needy, texting too much, etc. Great potential for consistent, ongoing fun if you’re a chill guy who is great in bed.

The Cheating Wife:
A few were cheating and I made a conscious attempt to keep the conversation away from their domestic life. They are looking for an escape. Often in dead bedroom marriages and there’s a lack of respect for the husband. They are cheating because they are sticking around for the kids or in a financially vulnerable situation. This one is tough - high chance of her catching feelings or bringing some drama into your life. I tend to see them 1-3x and then end things. They get weird easily. Tread carefully.

The Vixen & Stag:
In this dynamic, the husband freely shares his wife with another man. But he’s not a cuckold - he is confident that she will return to him. He just wants her to experience the maximum amount of pleasure and have her enjoy being the center of attention. He will both watch and participate in the action. Tbh, this is a really fun and hot dynamic as both of them are eagerly participating. I’ve found these couples to be pretty healthy from a relationship perspective and the most “normal”. The guys have all been straight and it truly is about giving the wife a wild night and fulfilling her fantasies. In these cases, the couple usually also have experience bringing in another woman in the bedroom too.

The Hotwife & Cuck:
This is the scenario where the husband enjoys being humiliated. He might watch, or be forced to sit in an adjoining room and listen to her playtime. Tbh these scenarios have a lot of latent/repressed homosexuality or even outright bisexual play. Have tried a few of these scenarios in the past and they always end up a bit weird. The couples who do this are almost always religious and politically conservative; it comes out in the conversation before & after. These situations are a lot more focused on the male cuck and his fantasy; he’s topping from the bottom (so to speak). In most of these cases the husband tries for years to get his wife to go along with his fantasy; eventually she ends up either REALLY loving it or divorces him. Not a ton of middle ground imho as it’s a pretty extreme fantasy.

Oh my. This is sooo accurate. I won’t say where I fit in. But I’ve played in at least two of these.

Question though, do you ever catch feelings for these women or Nate you able to just do it without care?

PP here: never caught truly romantic feelings. It was mostly lust. But there were cases where it turned into a real friendship with repeated encounters. In the vast majority of the cases the women made it clear that they were looking to scratch an itch and not upset their current life. Most important thing is that they wanted a no-drama guy who was not going to ask for more; that may be even more important than the sex itself.

I’m pretty easily able to compartmentalize romance and sex. I’ve also respected all of these women - I like that they seize their sexuality.

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I’m not cheating on anyone, and my response is not “poorly drafted.” Nice sidestepping, though.

You did not read the post. Try again.

This time, focus on why you posted your "thoughts" regarding guilt and submission. If you are not cheating, why address guilt? Answer: Because you can neither read nor write.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Other man” here: I’ve played with probably a dozen married/partnered women over the years. In most cases, the woman had her spouse’s blessing (including one woman who was in a lesbian marriage).

The married woman playing solo:
The upside? Married women are completely uninhibited. They want to experiment in the bedroom in ways that does not interest their spouse. This often involves exploring kink & bdsm for the first time. They are ready to shed their “wife” persona when they walk through that door and just want a carnal experience with no drama. They are highly discreet and don’t want their kinky life and their vanilla life to cross paths. Women playing like this often complain about potential men being too needy, texting too much, etc. Great potential for consistent, ongoing fun if you’re a chill guy who is great in bed.

The Cheating Wife:
A few were cheating and I made a conscious attempt to keep the conversation away from their domestic life. They are looking for an escape. Often in dead bedroom marriages and there’s a lack of respect for the husband. They are cheating because they are sticking around for the kids or in a financially vulnerable situation. This one is tough - high chance of her catching feelings or bringing some drama into your life. I tend to see them 1-3x and then end things. They get weird easily. Tread carefully.

The Vixen & Stag:
In this dynamic, the husband freely shares his wife with another man. But he’s not a cuckold - he is confident that she will return to him. He just wants her to experience the maximum amount of pleasure and have her enjoy being the center of attention. He will both watch and participate in the action. Tbh, this is a really fun and hot dynamic as both of them are eagerly participating. I’ve found these couples to be pretty healthy from a relationship perspective and the most “normal”. The guys have all been straight and it truly is about giving the wife a wild night and fulfilling her fantasies. In these cases, the couple usually also have experience bringing in another woman in the bedroom too.

The Hotwife & Cuck:
This is the scenario where the husband enjoys being humiliated. He might watch, or be forced to sit in an adjoining room and listen to her playtime. Tbh these scenarios have a lot of latent/repressed homosexuality or even outright bisexual play. Have tried a few of these scenarios in the past and they always end up a bit weird. The couples who do this are almost always religious and politically conservative; it comes out in the conversation before & after. These situations are a lot more focused on the male cuck and his fantasy; he’s topping from the bottom (so to speak). In most of these cases the husband tries for years to get his wife to go along with his fantasy; eventually she ends up either REALLY loving it or divorces him. Not a ton of middle ground imho as it’s a pretty extreme fantasy.

Oh my. This is sooo accurate. I won’t say where I fit in. But I’ve played in at least two of these.

Question though, do you ever catch feelings for these women or Nate you able to just do it without care?

PP here: never caught truly romantic feelings. It was mostly lust. But there were cases where it turned into a real friendship with repeated encounters. In the vast majority of the cases the women made it clear that they were looking to scratch an itch and not upset their current life. Most important thing is that they wanted a no-drama guy who was not going to ask for more; that may be even more important than the sex itself.

I’m pretty easily able to compartmentalize romance and sex. I’ve also respected all of these women - I like that they seize their sexuality.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Other man” here: I’ve played with probably a dozen married/partnered women over the years. In most cases, the woman had her spouse’s blessing (including one woman who was in a lesbian marriage).

The married woman playing solo:
The upside? Married women are completely uninhibited. They want to experiment in the bedroom in ways that does not interest their spouse. This often involves exploring kink & bdsm for the first time. They are ready to shed their “wife” persona when they walk through that door and just want a carnal experience with no drama. They are highly discreet and don’t want their kinky life and their vanilla life to cross paths. Women playing like this often complain about potential men being too needy, texting too much, etc. Great potential for consistent, ongoing fun if you’re a chill guy who is great in bed.

The Cheating Wife:
A few were cheating and I made a conscious attempt to keep the conversation away from their domestic life. They are looking for an escape. Often in dead bedroom marriages and there’s a lack of respect for the husband. They are cheating because they are sticking around for the kids or in a financially vulnerable situation. This one is tough - high chance of her catching feelings or bringing some drama into your life. I tend to see them 1-3x and then end things. They get weird easily. Tread carefully.

The Vixen & Stag:
In this dynamic, the husband freely shares his wife with another man. But he’s not a cuckold - he is confident that she will return to him. He just wants her to experience the maximum amount of pleasure and have her enjoy being the center of attention. He will both watch and participate in the action. Tbh, this is a really fun and hot dynamic as both of them are eagerly participating. I’ve found these couples to be pretty healthy from a relationship perspective and the most “normal”. The guys have all been straight and it truly is about giving the wife a wild night and fulfilling her fantasies. In these cases, the couple usually also have experience bringing in another woman in the bedroom too.

The Hotwife & Cuck:
This is the scenario where the husband enjoys being humiliated. He might watch, or be forced to sit in an adjoining room and listen to her playtime. Tbh these scenarios have a lot of latent/repressed homosexuality or even outright bisexual play. Have tried a few of these scenarios in the past and they always end up a bit weird. The couples who do this are almost always religious and politically conservative; it comes out in the conversation before & after. These situations are a lot more focused on the male cuck and his fantasy; he’s topping from the bottom (so to speak). In most of these cases the husband tries for years to get his wife to go along with his fantasy; eventually she ends up either REALLY loving it or divorces him. Not a ton of middle ground imho as it’s a pretty extreme fantasy.

Oh my. This is sooo accurate. I won’t say where I fit in. But I’ve played in at least two of these.

Question though, do you ever catch feelings for these women or Nate you able to just do it without care?

Anonymous wrote:“Other man” here: I’ve played with probably a dozen married/partnered women over the years. In most cases, the woman had her spouse’s blessing (including one woman who was in a lesbian marriage).

The married woman playing solo:
The upside? Married women are completely uninhibited. They want to experiment in the bedroom in ways that does not interest their spouse. This often involves exploring kink & bdsm for the first time. They are ready to shed their “wife” persona when they walk through that door and just want a carnal experience with no drama. They are highly discreet and don’t want their kinky life and their vanilla life to cross paths. Women playing like this often complain about potential men being too needy, texting too much, etc. Great potential for consistent, ongoing fun if you’re a chill guy who is great in bed.

The Cheating Wife:
A few were cheating and I made a conscious attempt to keep the conversation away from their domestic life. They are looking for an escape. Often in dead bedroom marriages and there’s a lack of respect for the husband. They are cheating because they are sticking around for the kids or in a financially vulnerable situation. This one is tough - high chance of her catching feelings or bringing some drama into your life. I tend to see them 1-3x and then end things. They get weird easily. Tread carefully.

The Vixen & Stag:
In this dynamic, the husband freely shares his wife with another man. But he’s not a cuckold - he is confident that she will return to him. He just wants her to experience the maximum amount of pleasure and have her enjoy being the center of attention. He will both watch and participate in the action. Tbh, this is a really fun and hot dynamic as both of them are eagerly participating. I’ve found these couples to be pretty healthy from a relationship perspective and the most “normal”. The guys have all been straight and it truly is about giving the wife a wild night and fulfilling her fantasies. In these cases, the couple usually also have experience bringing in another woman in the bedroom too.

The Hotwife & Cuck:
This is the scenario where the husband enjoys being humiliated. He might watch, or be forced to sit in an adjoining room and listen to her playtime. Tbh these scenarios have a lot of latent/repressed homosexuality or even outright bisexual play. Have tried a few of these scenarios in the past and they always end up a bit weird. The couples who do this are almost always religious and politically conservative; it comes out in the conversation before & after. These situations are a lot more focused on the male cuck and his fantasy; he’s topping from the bottom (so to speak). In most of these cases the husband tries for years to get his wife to go along with his fantasy; eventually she ends up either REALLY loving it or divorces him. Not a ton of middle ground imho as it’s a pretty extreme fantasy.

I’m not cheating on anyone, and my response is not “poorly drafted.” Nice sidestepping, though.

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I’m “submissive” (I am not sure we are using the word in the same way) and I have no idea what you mean. Guilt has nothing to do with it, and aggression is the last thing I want. Maybe you’re just an aggressive person who doesn’t actually care about your sexual partners so you make up little theories because relying on empathy is not available to you?

Your post is poorly drafted, so your point (if there is one) is lost.

First, how could you not understand what the term "submissive" means in context? The word means "conforming to the will or authority of another." In context, it means the DW conforms to the will of her AP. You write that "aggression is the last thing" you want; however, the person you submit to must be aggressive to dominate you. Either he dominates you, or he does not. But there is no dominance (or submission) without aggression.

Next, are you a DW having an affair? If not, why are you posting about how you feel? If so, how can you write that "guilt has nothing to do with it"? If you do not feel guilty about your affair, you are a sociopath and cannot feel guilt like normal humans do.

I care about my partners. However, I cared less about married partners than single ones because I respected them less. If you are cheating on your DH, you have little right to ask for empathy from anyone. And any AP who told you they cared about you is as screwed up as you are.

I’m “submissive” (I am not sure we are using the word in the same way) and I have no idea what you mean. Guilt has nothing to do with it, and aggression is the last thing I want. Maybe you’re just an aggressive person who doesn’t actually care about your sexual partners so you make up little theories because relying on empathy is not available to you?

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I never did when I was single, but had opportunities. The main draw for me was they were frequently the ones with the body type i prefer.

Had ample opportunities as well. They were willing to do anything sexual.

My experience was that they were often totally submissive (e.g., BDSM, D/s, etc.) because they felt guilty about the affair and they felt their DH was not aggressive enough. Weirdly, they were also way more eager to please you for the same reasons.

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I never did when I was single, but had opportunities. The main draw for me was they were frequently the ones with the body type i prefer.

Had ample opportunities as well. They were willing to do anything sexual.

My experience was that they were often totally submissive (e.g., BDSM, D/s, etc.) because they felt guilty about the affair and they felt their DH was not aggressive enough. Weirdly, they were also way more eager to please you for the same reasons.

I never did when I was single, but had opportunities. The main draw for me was they were frequently the ones with the body type i prefer.

Had ample opportunities as well. They were willing to do anything sexual.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have to celebrate birthdays or holidays with her. I don't have to take her in public. I don't spend money on her. I can blow her off any time I want and she can't raise a stink about it. We don't have to discuss our future. She believes lies like, I wish we met under other circumstances.

She's perfect.

Yuck. How does she have any respect for herself?

Actually, the question is how does this AH you are responding to have any respect for HIMSELF and others?

He’s not married. She is. As all the cheating women love to say: the AP isn’t guilty he didn’t exchange vows.

Funny how the slutty women are never wrong.

Getting involved with a person who is married is just as wrong regardless of gender or marriage status.

But if a married woman says that about a married woman AP—she’s wrong on this board. “She didn’t do anything to you” and all that BS. I agree: all cheaters are scumbags, no matter the gender.

I keep wondering what the family life was like for these types of people growing up . As a parent it's hare to envision these people as kids with parents in the community like the rest of us. Does it just happen in certain families from generation to generation?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have to celebrate birthdays or holidays with her. I don't have to take her in public. I don't spend money on her. I can blow her off any time I want and she can't raise a stink about it. We don't have to discuss our future. She believes lies like, I wish we met under other circumstances.

She's perfect.

Yuck. How does she have any respect for herself?

Actually, the question is how does this AH you are responding to have any respect for HIMSELF and others?

He’s not married. She is. As all the cheating women love to say: the AP isn’t guilty he didn’t exchange vows.

Funny how the slutty women are never wrong.

Getting involved with a person who is married is just as wrong regardless of gender or marriage status.

But if a married woman says that about a married woman AP—she’s wrong on this board. “She didn’t do anything to you” and all that BS. I agree: all cheaters are scumbags, no matter the gender.