I've had it with lazy, legal, entitled workers. At least people coming here have some hustle.

Anonymous wrote:Pp absolutely right. You cannot have Mexico come to the us to paint houses and cut the grass. Who is going to do the real
Work

There are actually work visas where you can come and legally work a seasonal job here (such as painting) for x number of months and then you go home.

And you really think they want to live in the swamps of Louisiana? Get serious

Hey! You're dissing the Cajuns and Creoles now. The bayou is home to many Coon-asses (they call themselves that). It's better than you think although I admit it isn't the life for everyone. I am just demonstrating there
are large swaths of land sparsely inhabited that could be developed to make room for more people. It was just as an example. I could have used the empty prairies of Kansas and Nebraska as an example too

I think they do typically pay taxes and work pretty hard at low level jobs.
The ones I know typically love their children and want opportunities for them.

I think that the lobby groups who get them benefits such as in state college tuition are way out of line though. Sorry - but you need to pay for that.

Legal immigrants are entitled to none of that. They can't even take out student loans. Many of them are talented hard working members of our society but they're sent home after a while regardless.

Do if you go to another country and set up shop you either Kay or they kick you out.

Anonymous wrote:My honest opinion? We're all humans, created by God, and all have the human rights to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." What country you came from is secondary to all of that. So if you are pursuing a life and liberty and happiness, and you come to America to do that, far be it from me to begrudge that. Welcome. I am a human being before I am an American. We are brothers and sisters created by God before we are "Americans" and "Colombians" or "Guatemalans," etc.

No sorry this is bullshit. We cannot have 100% open borders. We will be overwhelmed.

Personally, I think immigration is great: more immigrants means more people buying food, shelter, clothing increasing demand thus stimulating the economy to produce more supply, and America has huge swaths of land virtually uninhabited.
Why, we could fit all the population of El Salavador in Wyoming, and all the people of Guatamala in the swamps of Louisiana if we wanted to. There is plenty room for more people, room for a billion more. Just think of a billion
new citizens all buying cars, and clothes, and computers, our economy would be forced to expand to accomodate them.

But what you're not getting is that the majority are sending their money home - stimulating their home-country's economy. Not ours. And you really think they want to live in the swamps of Louisiana? Get serious.

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Ask alabama what happens when you crack down on illegal immigrants.

Spoiler alert, your crops rot because americans are too good for jobs like that

There would be tons of Americans clamoring for jobs like that if they paid 50k a year. As it is, hard to justify back breaking work for 12k a year while someone sits on their ass and earns 100k+ a year marketing/selling those same crops.

Out of touch with wages? Minimum wage, at the lowest level, is 15, 080.

And out of touch with financial reality? $24 an hour for someone with little to no education? Outside of sports brawn doesn't pay what 'brain' and skill does.

And let's touch on reality as a whole. Through high school your education is free. Poor, they will feed you too. Get your diploma there are trade schools, some public and some private, all across the country (many high schools have such vocational programs as well) that will teach you mechanics, construction, welding, electrical and plumbing, all of which can earn a person a much better than average wage. Poor and can't afford it? Federal aid is available. And one more thing, those kind of jobs can't be outsourced. So, why would any high school educated American want to work in the fields for 50k when they could do any of the above?

Anonymous wrote:People who have never gone through the legal process to immigrate to America do not appreciate the trouble legal immigrants have to go through just to get student or work visas and eventually permanent status. Many of us who did things legally are baffled at why it is okay for some people to break the rules and expect to be rewarded for it.
Many of us also come from countries with less than ideal living situations.
Either maintain the same rules for everyone or abolish the USCIS and throw America's doors wide open to everyone.

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It's not fair to people who are applying legally and who sometimes wait patiently for years.

how do you feel about people sneaking into your country, not paying taxes, using the healthcare system for free,their children getting ESL, free meals and other Amazing programs in public schools, committing crimes against Americans, drug running, babies of undocumented immigrants getting citizenship, etc,etc. I think it is a serious problem. I just visited Yakima WA, and the city is under HUGE strain because of the influx not of legal immigrants, but illegal, undocumented immigrants

Sneaking into any country to work and live is illegal. Therefore, they are not "undocmented immigrants" they are illegal aliens. They are law breakers. LAWLESS, just like the corrupt and filthy countries they come from mainly the Latin-speaking mosquito-infested cesspools south of Texas.

My thinking is if these people will break immigration laws they are likely to break other laws too like running stop signs (a friend of mine was terribly injured because an illegal alien paid no attention/did not understand our traffic laws) or steal whatever they feel necessary to fake it or make it like they do in their own filthy country. People who have to break the law to sneak into the country are desparate or they are criminals and want to sneak in to commit their crimes undetected.

I am all for giving people a hand to help. but such people should do so through proper legal channels which is why we have --drumroll please, embassies in about every country in the world where people can petition to be let in.

Naturally, if such people are illiterate, evil, or diseased and cannot or will not go through the process then I do not want people like that in my country, certainly not in my neighborhood and not in my school system where teacher
resources are already overextendend and now they have to coddle these people with teaching them in their own language. WHAT THE HELL? If I moved to another country and demanded they teach my children in my language I would
expect to be treated with the greatest of disdain at being so vile and offensive to the host country. I see illegal aliens as vile scammers and spammers not to be trusted. Not all of them of course, you cannot paint them
all with the same brush, but the majority of them are this way, coming in and expecting handouts and getting benefits they did not earn and do not deserve. To reiterate: i am talking about illegal immigrants, not immigrants who used proper, legal channels to enter this country.

Personally, I think immigration is great: more immigrants means more people buying food, shelter, clothing increasing demand thus stimulating the economy to produce more supply, and America has huge swaths of land virtually uninhabited.
Why, we could fit all the population of El Salavador in Wyoming, and all the people of Guatamala in the swamps of Louisiana if we wanted to. There is plenty room for more people, room for a billion more. Just think of a billion
new citizens all buying cars, and clothes, and computers, our economy would be forced to expand to accomodate them.

But they need to get here lawfully and not be a drain on the safety net which is for emergency situations, not a substitute for employment.

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Anonymous wrote:People who cheat on immigration make it much harder for people who are trying to immigrate using legal methods. What kind of character does it show to enter a country illegally, work here illegally, get benefits you are not entitled to, and just basically be a burden to the country? As for refugees, by definition, they are undocumented -- they are fleeing a war. So easy to join in and get through the gate. Its a wide open pathway -- you can't blame a terrorist for walking through it. Its like leaving the keys in the car.

Show me one credible source that shows they are a burden on this country. The biggest burden to this country are the US Citizens who are uneducated, Racists who spew hate to anyone thats not like them, are into drugs, cant find jobs and get on welfare and abuse medicaid. Where do you intend to send them?

To the borders. They find their own way home

Apparently RC and Contextual reasoning is not your strong suite, please read slowly and comprehend it before replying.

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Anonymous wrote:Ever seen the movie "A Day without a Mexican"? I think illegal immigrants to a large extent, and recent immigrants legal or otherwise, are the foundation of our way of life. They build our homes, prepare and serve our food, deliver our goods, install and fix our appliances, babysit our children and clean up after us everywhere we go.

Without them, we would want to immigrate somewhere else.

Nah, all those things got taken care of before immigrants and all those things will be done if they left. Life goes on - mexicans or no mexicans

Can you tell me about a time in US history when there weren't immigrants to take on heavy labor jobs? Or are Latin American immigrants the only ones you have a problem with?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, way to stereotype all illegal immigrants. I know a few illegal immigrants and all of them pay taxes, have health insurance or pay for their medical bills, none of them are criminals or do drugs. They are hard working people who are trying to make a better life for themselves and would love to be legalized.

Why do we have to support them? So what if they are hard working, they are still illegals. All criminals have a good side they can show when needed.

You don't have to support them. I just don't agree with stereotyping all of them as if they are drug dealing, thieves or murderers, who enjoy being here illegally so they can mooch of the system and not pay taxes. It's not an accurate view.

NP - not all of them. I agree with you. but that doesn't change the fact that all of the illegals are, matter fact, illegals and, therefore, broke the laws.

Anonymous wrote:Ever seen the movie "A Day without a Mexican"? I think illegal immigrants to a large extent, and recent immigrants legal or otherwise, are the foundation of our way of life. They build our homes, prepare and serve our food, deliver our goods, install and fix our appliances, babysit our children and clean up after us everywhere we go.

Without them, we would want to immigrate somewhere else.

Nah, all those things got taken care of before immigrants and all those things will be done if they left. Life goes on - mexicans or no mexicans

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, way to stereotype all illegal immigrants. I know a few illegal immigrants and all of them pay taxes, have health insurance or pay for their medical bills, none of them are criminals or do drugs. They are hard working people who are trying to make a better life for themselves and would love to be legalized.

Why do we have to support them? So what if they are hard working, they are still illegals. All criminals have a good side they can show when needed.

You don't have to support them. I just don't agree with stereotyping all of them as if they are drug dealing, thieves or murderers, who enjoy being here illegally so they can mooch of the system and not pay taxes. It's not an accurate view.