Anonymous
02/25/2016 23:40
Subject: Ellington. $250 m for 600 students. Murch. $70 m for 700 students.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
If the DC taxpayer's kid couldn't carry a tune and had no interest in studying vocal performance 2+ hours a day ... then yes.
Otherwise no.
Given that everything at Ellington is shrouded in secrecy there's no say you can say that with any certainty.
Admission to Ellington is not shrouded in any more or any less secrecy than Banneker and Walls.
IMO they're all a little sketchy. I'd much prefer it be based in objective data but of course that's just not possible for a visual and performing arts school.
Banneker and Walls are run by principals who are accountable to elected officials. Who is the Ellington principal accountable to?
Anonymous
02/25/2016 23:38
Subject: Ellington. $250 m for 600 students. Murch. $70 m for 700 students.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
If the DC taxpayer's kid couldn't carry a tune and had no interest in studying vocal performance 2+ hours a day ... then yes.
Otherwise no.
Given that everything at Ellington is shrouded in secrecy there's no say you can say that with any certainty.
Admission to Ellington is not shrouded in any more or any less secrecy than Banneker and Walls.
IMO they're all a little sketchy. I'd much prefer it be based in objective data but of course that's just not possible for a visual and performing arts school.
Anonymous
02/25/2016 23:37
Subject: Ellington. $250 m for 600 students. Murch. $70 m for 700 students.
no way, not no say.
Anonymous
02/25/2016 23:21
Subject: Ellington. $250 m for 600 students. Murch. $70 m for 700 students.
Anonymous wrote:
If the DC taxpayer's kid couldn't carry a tune and had no interest in studying vocal performance 2+ hours a day ... then yes.
Otherwise no.
Given that everything at Ellington is shrouded in secrecy there's no say you can say that with any certainty.
Anonymous
02/25/2016 22:52
Subject: Ellington. $250 m for 600 students. Murch. $70 m for 700 students.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously though, how many non-DC kids attend Ellington? It completely baffles my brain that even one kid who doesn't reside in DC can attend DCPS's most selective school.
W.T.F.
They pay tuition. My friend's kid did this from MD as she was a very talented performer. I think it's 10K a year.
OK, but again - WHY? Maryland doesn't have good arts programs? I find that hard to believe. It's a DCPS school....why is anyone attending the most selective school in the District who doesn't live here? It's makes zero sense.
Baltimore has an arts high school. MCPS and FCPS don't.
It's kinda like the OOB process. DC students have to be taken first - but if there is room in the drama program, for example, they will take a student with the talent from another jurisdiction and OSSE collects tuition. You need decent grades but you also need a portfolio/talent/arts experience. The arts block isn't a joke.
Is there reciprocation at MD and VA magnets?
MCPS has a policy of allowing nonresidents to attend schools that have room and paying tuition. I don't know that they have ever had space in their magnets.
No clue re Virginia.
In other words, no. A DC math genius with higher scores than anyone on the planet would not take a magnet spot over a MD or VA kid; whereas a more talented MD soprano would take a spot over a less talented DC taxpayer's kid (who pays way, way more than $11K/yr in taxes). Is that right?
And even if that MD student is billed tuition, chances are his or her family is not paying and Ellington doesn't seem to care. It's interesting that there seems to be 3 times as many kids from Prince George's at Ellington as there are from Ward 3.
Anonymous
02/25/2016 22:47
Subject: Ellington. $250 m for 600 students. Murch. $70 m for 700 students.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously though, how many non-DC kids attend Ellington? It completely baffles my brain that even one kid who doesn't reside in DC can attend DCPS's most selective school.
W.T.F.
They pay tuition. My friend's kid did this from MD as she was a very talented performer. I think it's 10K a year.
OK, but again - WHY? Maryland doesn't have good arts programs? I find that hard to believe. It's a DCPS school....why is anyone attending the most selective school in the District who doesn't live here? It's makes zero sense.
Baltimore has an arts high school. MCPS and FCPS don't.
It's kinda like the OOB process. DC students have to be taken first - but if there is room in the drama program, for example, they will take a student with the talent from another jurisdiction and OSSE collects tuition. You need decent grades but you also need a portfolio/talent/arts experience. The arts block isn't a joke.
Is there reciprocation at MD and VA magnets?
MCPS has a policy of allowing nonresidents to attend schools that have room and paying tuition. I don't know that they have ever had space in their magnets.
No clue re Virginia.
In other words, no. A DC math genius with higher scores than anyone on the planet would not take a magnet spot over a MD or VA kid; whereas a more talented MD soprano would take a spot over a less talented DC taxpayer's kid (who pays way, way more than $11K/yr in taxes). Is that right?
If the DC taxpayer's kid couldn't carry a tune and had no interest in studying vocal performance 2+ hours a day ... then yes.
Otherwise no.
Anonymous
02/25/2016 22:39
Subject: Ellington. $250 m for 600 students. Murch. $70 m for 700 students.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously though, how many non-DC kids attend Ellington? It completely baffles my brain that even one kid who doesn't reside in DC can attend DCPS's most selective school.
W.T.F.
They pay tuition. My friend's kid did this from MD as she was a very talented performer. I think it's 10K a year.
OK, but again - WHY? Maryland doesn't have good arts programs? I find that hard to believe. It's a DCPS school....why is anyone attending the most selective school in the District who doesn't live here? It's makes zero sense.
Baltimore has an arts high school. MCPS and FCPS don't.
It's kinda like the OOB process. DC students have to be taken first - but if there is room in the drama program, for example, they will take a student with the talent from another jurisdiction and OSSE collects tuition. You need decent grades but you also need a portfolio/talent/arts experience. The arts block isn't a joke.
Is there reciprocation at MD and VA magnets?
MCPS has a policy of allowing nonresidents to attend schools that have room and paying tuition. I don't know that they have ever had space in their magnets.
No clue re Virginia.
In other words, no. A DC math genius with higher scores than anyone on the planet would not take a magnet spot over a MD or VA kid; whereas a more talented MD soprano would take a spot over a less talented DC taxpayer's kid (who pays way, way more than $11K/yr in taxes). Is that right?
Anonymous
02/25/2016 20:31
Subject: Ellington. $250 m for 600 students. Murch. $70 m for 700 students.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously though, how many non-DC kids attend Ellington? It completely baffles my brain that even one kid who doesn't reside in DC can attend DCPS's most selective school.
W.T.F.
They pay tuition. My friend's kid did this from MD as she was a very talented performer. I think it's 10K a year.
OK, but again - WHY? Maryland doesn't have good arts programs? I find that hard to believe. It's a DCPS school....why is anyone attending the most selective school in the District who doesn't live here? It's makes zero sense.
Baltimore has an arts high school. MCPS and FCPS don't.
It's kinda like the OOB process. DC students have to be taken first - but if there is room in the drama program, for example, they will take a student with the talent from another jurisdiction and OSSE collects tuition. You need decent grades but you also need a portfolio/talent/arts experience. The arts block isn't a joke.
Is there reciprocation at MD and VA magnets?
MCPS has a policy of allowing nonresidents to attend schools that have room and paying tuition. I don't know that they have ever had space in their magnets.
No clue re Virginia.
Anonymous
02/25/2016 20:29
Subject: Ellington. $250 m for 600 students. Murch. $70 m for 700 students.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously though, how many non-DC kids attend Ellington? It completely baffles my brain that even one kid who doesn't reside in DC can attend DCPS's most selective school.
W.T.F.
They pay tuition. My friend's kid did this from MD as she was a very talented performer. I think it's 10K a year.
OK, but again - WHY? Maryland doesn't have good arts programs? I find that hard to believe. It's a DCPS school....why is anyone attending the most selective school in the District who doesn't live here? It's makes zero sense.
Baltimore has an arts high school. MCPS and FCPS don't.
It's kinda like the OOB process. DC students have to be taken first - but if there is room in the drama program, for example, they will take a student with the talent from another jurisdiction and OSSE collects tuition. You need decent grades but you also need a portfolio/talent/arts experience. The arts block isn't a joke.
Is there reciprocation at MD and VA magnets?
Anonymous
02/25/2016 18:11
Subject: Ellington. $250 m for 600 students. Murch. $70 m for 700 students.
Wow. So much apparent corruption. No wonder why some are graduating high school without the ability to read. Utterly shameful.
Anonymous
02/25/2016 18:01
Subject: Ellington. $250 m for 600 students. Murch. $70 m for 700 students.
I wish DCPS would be "relieved of its responsibility" entirely.
Anonymous
02/25/2016 17:39
Subject: Ellington. $250 m for 600 students. Murch. $70 m for 700 students.
Anonymous wrote:This was sent to me by an elected official, it's a few years old but it's what I have:
elected official wrote:
Ellington students in 2011-12 came from the following wards:
Ward 1 Ward 2 Ward 3 Ward 4 Ward 5 Ward 6 Ward 7 Ward 8 No Ward Listed MD VA
36 15 19 96 75 48 74 70 16 54 11
The "no ward listed" kids are most likely foreign exchange students, which Ellington actively recruits. So 81 out of 514 are not DC residents, or 14%.
According to this article, http://dcist.com/2012/05/dc_looks_into_non-residents_who_att.php , that year OSSE looked into non-residents who register to pay tuition. There were 198 registered, of them 126 didn't actually pay their tuition. So system-wide, 64% of the students who register to pay tuition don't actually pay tuition. And the number of students who actually pay system-wide is smaller than the number registered at Ellington.
That's without even exploring whether $11,000 is a fair tuition for a school that is in the process of spending over $400,000 per student on a renovation.
That was 4 years ago.
That is why DCPS was relieved of the responsibility of collecting tuition. And it was given to OSSE.
Now money must be paid or a payment plan agreed to before first day of school.
Anonymous
02/25/2016 17:35
Subject: Ellington. $250 m for 600 students. Murch. $70 m for 700 students.
Well that came out as gibberish. Let me try again:
elected official wrote:
Ellington students in 2011-12 came from the following wards:
Ward 1 - 36
Ward 2 - 15
Ward 3 - 19
Ward 4 - 96
Ward 5 - 75
Ward 6 - 48
Ward 7 - 74
Ward 8 - 70
No Ward Listed - 16
MD - 54
VA - 11
Anonymous
02/25/2016 17:32
Subject: Ellington. $250 m for 600 students. Murch. $70 m for 700 students.
This was sent to me by an elected official, it's a few years old but it's what I have:
The "no ward listed" kids are most likely foreign exchange students, which Ellington actively recruits. So 81 out of 514 are not DC residents, or 14%.
According to this article, http://dcist.com/2012/05/dc_looks_into_non-residents_who_att.php , that year OSSE looked into non-residents who register to pay tuition. There were 198 registered, of them 126 didn't actually pay their tuition. So system-wide, 64% of the students who register to pay tuition don't actually pay tuition. And the number of students who actually pay system-wide is smaller than the number registered at Ellington.
That's without even exploring whether $11,000 is a fair tuition for a school that is in the process of spending over $400,000 per student on a renovation.
elected official wrote:
Ellington students in 2011-12 came from the following wards:
Ward 1 Ward 2 Ward 3 Ward 4 Ward 5 Ward 6 Ward 7 Ward 8 No Ward Listed MD VA
36 15 19 96 75 48 74 70 16 54 11
The "no ward listed" kids are most likely foreign exchange students, which Ellington actively recruits. So 81 out of 514 are not DC residents, or 14%.
According to this article, http://dcist.com/2012/05/dc_looks_into_non-residents_who_att.php , that year OSSE looked into non-residents who register to pay tuition. There were 198 registered, of them 126 didn't actually pay their tuition. So system-wide, 64% of the students who register to pay tuition don't actually pay tuition. And the number of students who actually pay system-wide is smaller than the number registered at Ellington.
That's without even exploring whether $11,000 is a fair tuition for a school that is in the process of spending over $400,000 per student on a renovation.
Anonymous
02/25/2016 17:25
Subject: Re:Ellington. $250 m for 600 students. Murch. $70 m for 700 students.
While I can sort of see having a special arts program, the new DE can hold more students than spots needed for arts students. DE should become a regular hs with an internal arts program