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Anonymous wrote:I think Michigan can be tough just because so many kids apply from Sidwell.

Who goes to Sidwell to go to....Michigan?

I hate this line of thinking. Lots of people choose a school like Sidwell or similar independent for reasons beyond college admissions. It's about the experience of school BEFORE college for many of us.

For the ivies and other top colleges they look for top URM students because they want a variety of students with different experiences. Being Black and middle class is different than being white or Hispanic and middle class. Just like being white and poor is different than being white and wealthy. So I don't get why people are so resentful of black middle class students getting a leg up on admissions. There are relatively few of these kids with the skills to do well at ivies. Just look at the gap in SAT or ACT scores between races even when equalized for income. Again, admissions at top schools is about assembling a class of diverse individuals based on reviews of the students' whole body of work. No body is taking anyone's spot. There are no reserved seats.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole URM business has become such a racket.

Become? It's 40 years in and going strong. Thankfully.

But no dispute that it's a racket.

Fisher II, tick tock.

Even Sandra Day O'Connor said by the mid 2020's it should be phased out

Yawn. That "sunset" suggestion was mere dicta. Affirmative action today, tomorrow, and forever.

I think that George C. Wallace liked to use that phrase.

He did not support affirmative action.

Neither does President Obama, who is on record that there shouldn't be affirmative action for high SES kids like his.

Anonymous wrote:I think Michigan can be tough just because so many kids apply from Sidwell.

Who goes to Sidwell to go to....Michigan?

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Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone send their kid to Sidwell? Look at how they're kicking the sick and elderly to the curb.

I will tell you why. So that they can learn to critically evaluate the actual facts of a situation, unlike the school you attended.

NP. Your second sentence is so poorly worded that it makes no sense. Why would they want to evaluate the school you attended?

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Anonymous wrote:This whole URM business has become such a racket.

Become? It's 40 years in and going strong. Thankfully.

But no dispute that it's a racket.

Fisher II, tick tock.

Even Sandra Day O'Connor said by the mid 2020's it should be phased out

Yawn. That "sunset" suggestion was mere dicta. Affirmative action today, tomorrow, and forever.

I think that George C. Wallace liked to use that phrase.

He did not support affirmative action.

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone send their kid to Sidwell? Look at how they're kicking the sick and elderly to the curb.

I will tell you why. So that they can learn to critically evaluate the actual facts of a situation, unlike the school you attended.

I think Michigan can be tough just because so many kids apply from Sidwell.

Why would anyone send their kid to Sidwell? Look at how they're kicking the sick and elderly to the curb.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole URM business has become such a racket.

Become? It's 40 years in and going strong. Thankfully.

But no dispute that it's a racket.

Fisher II, tick tock.

Even Sandra Day O'Connor said by the mid 2020's it should be phased out

Which will open up about 30 spots each year at Harvard, assuming other preferences stay in place: athletic, legacy, pure socio-economic, regional. So now that that is out of the way, your kid will clearly be one of the 30 out of the rejected 32,000 who they will now open their gates to on pure "merit".

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Anonymous wrote:This whole URM business has become such a racket.

Become? It's 40 years in and going strong. Thankfully.

But no dispute that it's a racket.

Fisher II, tick tock.

Even Sandra Day O'Connor said by the mid 2020's it should be phased out

Yawn. That "sunset" suggestion was mere dicta. Affirmative action today, tomorrow, and forever.

I think that George C. Wallace liked to use that phrase.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole URM business has become such a racket.

Become? It's 40 years in and going strong. Thankfully.

But no dispute that it's a racket.

Not so. The political and judicial systems have decreed that it is fair and appropriate. If an upper middle class white kid has to settle for tier two, so be it. Take one for team America and the greater good.

I am not the earlier poster, but the only thing that bugs me about the URM business is that URM kids whose parents went to great schools and have had every advantage, get yet another in this process. Some kids brag about it at my kids' school. I'm in because I'm _____. That preference is legal, but it does seem unfair.

Ya think?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole URM business has become such a racket.

Become? It's 40 years in and going strong. Thankfully.

But no dispute that it's a racket.

Fisher II, tick tock.

Even Sandra Day O'Connor said by the mid 2020's it should be phased out

Yawn. That "sunset" suggestion was mere dicta. Affirmative action today, tomorrow, and forever.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This whole URM business has become such a racket.

Become? It's 40 years in and going strong. Thankfully.

But no dispute that it's a racket.

Fisher II, tick tock.

Even Sandra Day O'Connor said by the mid 2020's it should be phased out

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Anonymous wrote:Someone with a 3.5 is unlikely to be the best a teacher has seen in 10 years. And teacher recs aren't "profoundly influential" anywhere. Nice to have good ones, and certainly a factor, but hardly profound.

The big land grant colleges rely primarily on GPA and test scores, but the elite schools all read each application and teacher recommendations are incredibly important. Among a pool of very talented students, they are often decisive. This is particularly true for high schools that send a lot of students to elite schools and the admissions officers know that the teachers have a strong understanding of the students. And a great many admits are students who are particularly accomplished in one field/endeavor rather than the classic well rounded stereotype. So it is unusual for Harvard to admit a student with a very strong academic record in English/literature from an exceptional high school English program with Bs in calculus BC and AP physics.

they really odn't know. duke adcom said lots of 'pruning' goes into what apps get a 'full read'