Anonymous
06/24/2015 08:31
Subject: Re:84 TJ kids attending UVA in the fall
Anonymous wrote:
TJ failed its mission by sending these many students to a non-STEM school.
What do you consider a STEM school? Only MIT and Caltech?
You are nuts, lady. A school "failed its mission" because students graduated and chose "non-STEM" colleges? That doesn't even make sense.
Anonymous
06/23/2015 22:22
Subject: Re:84 TJ kids attending UVA in the fall
Anonymous wrote:
TJ failed its mission by sending these many students to a non-STEM school.
What do you consider a STEM school? Only MIT and Caltech?
Schools that have strong engineering and science programs - CMU, Michigan, GA Tech, UC Berkeley, Cornell, UIUC, JHU, Stanford, Princeton. UVA isn't one of them.
Anonymous
06/23/2015 21:16
Subject: 84 TJ kids attending UVA in the fall
If it's any help, as a graduate of an Ivy League school, I look down on Michigan and UVA equally.
Anonymous
06/23/2015 21:14
Subject: Re:84 TJ kids attending UVA in the fall
TJ failed its mission by sending these many students to a non-STEM school.
What do you consider a STEM school? Only MIT and Caltech?
Anonymous
06/23/2015 20:31
Subject: 84 TJ kids attending UVA in the fall
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:19 TJ kids headed to Michigan and 14 to Cornell.
Michigan viewed better than UVA? Enough to compensate for the cost difference between two?
Michigan is viewed better than UVA and Michigan offers good amount of merit based aid.
wait - but I thought there was a previous poster that said their state funding is decreasing. How can they off more merit aid if that's the case?
UVa is usually ranked higher than Michigan.
Michigan is ranked higher than UVA.
Outside of VA, Michigan is considered far better than UVa. It's a well known fact.
It's more highly regarded in the Northeast. Not sure about other areas of the country.
US News is nationwide and consistently ranks UVa higher than Michigan, going back well over a decade. Michigan might be more well known for sports because it is a Big 10 school, but UVa is better known for academics.
I personally wouldn't pay out-of-state tuition for Michigan when I could pay in-state tuition for the higher ranked Virginia. The difference between 23rd place for UVa and 29 for Michigan is not that great, but not enough to make it worth it to pay out if state tuition.
Have you read US News best graduate programs? UVA is nowhere to be found in the list for top engineering, science, medical schools. Michigan is on every one of them. The business school rankings are also comparable. Michigan is a much stronger school academically. TJ failed its mission by sending these many students to a non-STEM school.
Anonymous
06/23/2015 11:40
Subject: 84 TJ kids attending UVA in the fall
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How many Langley kids are attending UVA?
Interested in McLean's number as well.
31 to U. Va. and 34 going to Va. Tech. FWIW, three to Michigan, including one athlete recruited when he was a sophomore.
Anonymous
06/23/2015 10:14
Subject: 84 TJ kids attending UVA in the fall
Geez! I went to UM and my DH went to UVa. Who gives a damn about the rankings or which of those two very good schools is ranked higher? If a student goes to either one of them and does well, they will get great opportunities. Stop the pissing match!
Anonymous
06/23/2015 09:50
Subject: 84 TJ kids attending UVA in the fall
Anonymous wrote:What the pp states is true. Outside of northern Va...if you went to your U of State, people really don't see it as any different than U of Tennessee or U of Kansas. It's just the big state U.
Around here, people act like UVA is an Ivy and is regarded as such worldwide. I worked in HR in 5 states and I can tell you that it really isn't viewed as a prestigious institution.
People who think that University of Virginia is the same as University of Any State probably think that University of Chicago is the same as University of Any City.
Anonymous
06/23/2015 09:43
Subject: 84 TJ kids attending UVA in the fall
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:19 TJ kids headed to Michigan and 14 to Cornell.
Michigan viewed better than UVA? Enough to compensate for the cost difference between two?
Michigan is viewed better than UVA and Michigan offers good amount of merit based aid.
wait - but I thought there was a previous poster that said their state funding is decreasing. How can they off more merit aid if that's the case?
UVa is usually ranked higher than Michigan.
Michigan is ranked higher than UVA.
Outside of VA, Michigan is considered far better than UVa. It's a well known fact.
It's more highly regarded in the Northeast. Not sure about other areas of the country.
US News is nationwide and consistently ranks UVa higher than Michigan, going back well over a decade. Michigan might be more well known for sports because it is a Big 10 school, but UVa is better known for academics.
I personally wouldn't pay out-of-state tuition for Michigan when I could pay in-state tuition for the higher ranked Virginia. The difference between 23rd place for UVa and 29 for Michigan is not that great, but not enough to make it worth it to pay out if state tuition.
You are ranking obsessed. Do you even know how it's calculated?
Haha, I am actually the opposite of ranking obsessed. In this situation, a poster keeps asserting that one school is considered "better" than another without any backup to that statement. One can say something over and over again but that doesn't make it true. Outside organization rankings at least add an element of objectivity.
Fit for a particular student is the most important aspect of college admissions. I don't have a child at either of these schools or considering either of them, but if my child were considering these two, I would take into account many criteria and would include both the price and the ranking. Being part if the Big 10 would likely not matter very much to my family. Being able to pay in-state tuition for a school that is higher ranked and better regarded academically would definitely weigh heavily in my family's decision making process.
I grew up in the Northeast where Michigan was not that well known outside of sports and UVa was always very highly regarded for their academics. Probably Midwesterners know more about Michigan. I live on the east coast and my children will likely eventually end up here, so it would make sense for them to go to a school that has a nationwide reputation but is also very well known in the east.
Wow - you sound very defensive. I don't care if you believe me or not, but outside of this area UVA is not so well known. Of course it's well known here because it's a great value in-state. And a great option for your family if you want that. No doubt.
As another PP asked, what exactly is UVA known for academically aside from Darden? Maybe journalism?
No reason to be defensive. I am not originally from this area and my family is only here because the military brought us here. I've lived all over the US and UVa is as well regarded in California as in Florida. I didn't go to UVa and I don't have any ties there.
The school is known academically across the board: people in general and employers in particular will think highly of a UVa degree no matter what the major. I grew up a few states away and went to a public school that sent a number of kids to very well-regarded schools every year. We were always impressed with the kids who went to UVa.
Anonymous
06/23/2015 09:40
Subject: Re:84 TJ kids attending UVA in the fall
I don't care which is best. Send you kid to the best school for him. For the money, I'd stay in VA--even if it is not UVA or WM. After a year or two, it makes no difference--except to the elitists.
Anonymous
06/23/2015 09:13
Subject: 84 TJ kids attending UVA in the fall
What the pp states is true. Outside of northern Va...if you went to your U of State, people really don't see it as any different than U of Tennessee or U of Kansas. It's just the big state U.
Around here, people act like UVA is an Ivy and is regarded as such worldwide. I worked in HR in 5 states and I can tell you that it really isn't viewed as a prestigious institution.
Around here, people act like UVA is an Ivy and is regarded as such worldwide. I worked in HR in 5 states and I can tell you that it really isn't viewed as a prestigious institution.
Anonymous
06/23/2015 09:11
Subject: 84 TJ kids attending UVA in the fall
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:19 TJ kids headed to Michigan and 14 to Cornell.
Michigan viewed better than UVA? Enough to compensate for the cost difference between two?
Michigan is viewed better than UVA and Michigan offers good amount of merit based aid.
wait - but I thought there was a previous poster that said their state funding is decreasing. How can they off more merit aid if that's the case?
UVa is usually ranked higher than Michigan.
Michigan is ranked higher than UVA.
Outside of VA, Michigan is considered far better than UVa. It's a well known fact.
It's more highly regarded in the Northeast. Not sure about other areas of the country.
US News is nationwide and consistently ranks UVa higher than Michigan, going back well over a decade. Michigan might be more well known for sports because it is a Big 10 school, but UVa is better known for academics.
I personally wouldn't pay out-of-state tuition for Michigan when I could pay in-state tuition for the higher ranked Virginia. The difference between 23rd place for UVa and 29 for Michigan is not that great, but not enough to make it worth it to pay out if state tuition.
You are ranking obsessed. Do you even know how it's calculated?
Haha, I am actually the opposite of ranking obsessed. In this situation, a poster keeps asserting that one school is considered "better" than another without any backup to that statement. One can say something over and over again but that doesn't make it true. Outside organization rankings at least add an element of objectivity.
Fit for a particular student is the most important aspect of college admissions. I don't have a child at either of these schools or considering either of them, but if my child were considering these two, I would take into account many criteria and would include both the price and the ranking. Being part if the Big 10 would likely not matter very much to my family. Being able to pay in-state tuition for a school that is higher ranked and better regarded academically would definitely weigh heavily in my family's decision making process.
I grew up in the Northeast where Michigan was not that well known outside of sports and UVa was always very highly regarded for their academics. Probably Midwesterners know more about Michigan. I live on the east coast and my children will likely eventually end up here, so it would make sense for them to go to a school that has a nationwide reputation but is also very well known in the east.
Wow - you sound very defensive. I don't care if you believe me or not, but outside of this area UVA is not so well known. Of course it's well known here because it's a great value in-state. And a great option for your family if you want that. No doubt.
As another PP asked, what exactly is UVA known for academically aside from Darden? Maybe journalism?
Not wanting to start WW III either. But there is some truth about what exactly is UVA known for? They have a good business program, possibly journalism? There's no doubt it is a good school but much of the attention is drven by in-state tuition fares which ware some of the lowest in the country.
Anonymous
06/23/2015 09:01
Subject: 84 TJ kids attending UVA in the fall
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:19 TJ kids headed to Michigan and 14 to Cornell.
Michigan viewed better than UVA? Enough to compensate for the cost difference between two?
Michigan is viewed better than UVA and Michigan offers good amount of merit based aid.
wait - but I thought there was a previous poster that said their state funding is decreasing. How can they off more merit aid if that's the case?
UVa is usually ranked higher than Michigan.
Michigan is ranked higher than UVA.
Outside of VA, Michigan is considered far better than UVa. It's a well known fact.
It's more highly regarded in the Northeast. Not sure about other areas of the country.
US News is nationwide and consistently ranks UVa higher than Michigan, going back well over a decade. Michigan might be more well known for sports because it is a Big 10 school, but UVa is better known for academics.
I personally wouldn't pay out-of-state tuition for Michigan when I could pay in-state tuition for the higher ranked Virginia. The difference between 23rd place for UVa and 29 for Michigan is not that great, but not enough to make it worth it to pay out if state tuition.
You are ranking obsessed. Do you even know how it's calculated?
Haha, I am actually the opposite of ranking obsessed. In this situation, a poster keeps asserting that one school is considered "better" than another without any backup to that statement. One can say something over and over again but that doesn't make it true. Outside organization rankings at least add an element of objectivity.
Fit for a particular student is the most important aspect of college admissions. I don't have a child at either of these schools or considering either of them, but if my child were considering these two, I would take into account many criteria and would include both the price and the ranking. Being part if the Big 10 would likely not matter very much to my family. Being able to pay in-state tuition for a school that is higher ranked and better regarded academically would definitely weigh heavily in my family's decision making process.
I grew up in the Northeast where Michigan was not that well known outside of sports and UVa was always very highly regarded for their academics. Probably Midwesterners know more about Michigan. I live on the east coast and my children will likely eventually end up here, so it would make sense for them to go to a school that has a nationwide reputation but is also very well known in the east.
Wow - you sound very defensive. I don't care if you believe me or not, but outside of this area UVA is not so well known. Of course it's well known here because it's a great value in-state. And a great option for your family if you want that. No doubt.
As another PP asked, what exactly is UVA known for academically aside from Darden? Maybe journalism?
Anonymous
06/23/2015 08:50
Subject: Re:84 TJ kids attending UVA in the fall
Not that hard to get into Michigqn in state
Anonymous
06/23/2015 08:50
Subject: 84 TJ kids attending UVA in the fall
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:19 TJ kids headed to Michigan and 14 to Cornell.
Michigan viewed better than UVA? Enough to compensate for the cost difference between two?
Michigan is viewed better than UVA and Michigan offers good amount of merit based aid.
wait - but I thought there was a previous poster that said their state funding is decreasing. How can they off more merit aid if that's the case?
UVa is usually ranked higher than Michigan.
Michigan is ranked higher than UVA.
Outside of VA, Michigan is considered far better than UVa. It's a well known fact.
It's more highly regarded in the Northeast. Not sure about other areas of the country.
US News is nationwide and consistently ranks UVa higher than Michigan, going back well over a decade. Michigan might be more well known for sports because it is a Big 10 school, but UVa is better known for academics.
I personally wouldn't pay out-of-state tuition for Michigan when I could pay in-state tuition for the higher ranked Virginia. The difference between 23rd place for UVa and 29 for Michigan is not that great, but not enough to make it worth it to pay out if state tuition.
You are ranking obsessed. Do you even know how it's calculated?
Haha, I am actually the opposite of ranking obsessed. In this situation, a poster keeps asserting that one school is considered "better" than another without any backup to that statement. One can say something over and over again but that doesn't make it true. Outside organization rankings at least add an element of objectivity.
Fit for a particular student is the most important aspect of college admissions. I don't have a child at either of these schools or considering either of them, but if my child were considering these two, I would take into account many criteria and would include both the price and the ranking. Being part if the Big 10 would likely not matter very much to my family. Being able to pay in-state tuition for a school that is higher ranked and better regarded academically would definitely weigh heavily in my family's decision making process.
I grew up in the Northeast where Michigan was not that well known outside of sports and UVa was always very highly regarded for their academics. Probably Midwesterners know more about Michigan. I live on the east coast and my children will likely eventually end up here, so it would make sense for them to go to a school that has a nationwide reputation but is also very well known in the east.