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Anonymous wrote:Yes it is. Fraud is fraud. They all should be investigated and sued.
We all have to sign that piece of paper saying that we live at the address on the registration.
Any adult over 18 who can read and sign their name should bd held to what is stated on that form. 100%.

How do we get that to happen? I have called the fraud hotline a couple of time about definite md residents but nothing ever happened.

Can you provide a link to that form? I can't find it.

http://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/COS_DC_RESIDENCY_VERIFICATION_FORM_091714_0.pdf

Here is a section from the "Part C" that all DCPS parents have to sign:


Penalty for False Information:
Any person, including any District of Columbia public school or public charter school official, who knowingly supplies false information to a public official in connection with student residency verification shall be subject to charges of tuition retroactively, and payment of a fine of not more than $2,000 or imprisonment for not more than 90 days, but not both fine and imprisonment, pursuant to the District of Columbia Nonresident Tuition Act, approved September 8, 1960 and amended by the District of Columbia Public Schools and Public Charter School Student Residency Fraud Prevention Amendment Act of 2012 (D.C. Code §38-312). The case of any such person may be referred by the Office of the State Superintendent of Education to the Office of the Attorney General.

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Anonymous wrote:No way- they can commute to their jobs and send their children to school like everyone else. There is no excuse for breaking the law.

I'm not saying you don't prosecute violators. I'm suggesting a way to give a certain type of public servant--someone provides a crucial, visible service to the city--a benefit that allows them to become even more involved in DC community life. I love seeing MPD parents in uniform at our school; it makes me feel a little safer, and I have to believe that being personally involved in the community they police makes them better cops.

Giving those public servants access to DCPS at a discounted rate seems like a win-win to me.

There are several programs to help public servants purchase in DC...why do you think so many own rental property in the city??? My former neighbor bought a townhouse next to mine under one of these "teacher/police/firefighter" programs, "lived" in it for about two months and then promptly rented it out. Free money.

When you factor in overtime and contract work, many police can make well into the six figures annually. Plus a sweet retirement package. They are not struggling.

My kid went to eaton at the same time as them, this family did not seem to be struggling financially.

THIS! MPD officers are paid very well. Nobody could define a two-MPD income as "struggling."

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Anonymous wrote:They aren't DC residents. They live in MD. Owning property in DC doesn't make you a resident.

It did make you a resident pre-2008. The rules changed. Where is that posted? It seems the public website aligns with the pre-and rules.

Every time you document your residency in DC for schools, you swear that you and your child reside at the address and that you are aware of the penalties of making untrue statements. They certainly were aware of the law.

No. The form does not ask you to swear, they ask for a pay stub.

Different poster: Actually by signing and dating the form, you affirm that your statements are truthful and the form is admissible evidence in court.

Anonymous wrote:Dang. DC is suing for three times what they owed in tuition. This is a very strong message. Kids were at Eaton, Deal and Wilson, for those who didn't read the whole thing.

Absolutely! Especially for OOB parents who'd love to send their kids to those schools. Keep those spots for parents who live in DC and pay DC tax bills!

Anonymous wrote:Yes it is. Fraud is fraud. They all should be investigated and sued.
We all have to sign that piece of paper saying that we live at the address on the registration.
Any adult over 18 who can read and sign their name should bd held to what is stated on that form. 100%.

How do we get that to happen? I have called the fraud hotline a couple of time about definite md residents but nothing ever happened.

Can you provide a link to that form? I can't find it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They aren't DC residents. They live in MD. Owning property in DC doesn't make you a resident.

It did make you a resident pre-2008. The rules changed. Where is that posted? It seems the public website aligns with the pre-and rules.

Every time you document your residency in DC for schools, you swear that you and your child reside at the address and that you are aware of the penalties of making untrue statements. They certainly were aware of the law.

No. The form does not ask you to swear, they ask for a pay stub.

What? They drive their kids around in cruisers?

Not to mention all the taxpayer funded gasoline used to Chauffffeur the kids to the various schools in their cruisers.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No way- they can commute to their jobs and send their children to school like everyone else. There is no excuse for breaking the law.

I'm not saying you don't prosecute violators. I'm suggesting a way to give a certain type of public servant--someone provides a crucial, visible service to the city--a benefit that allows them to become even more involved in DC community life. I love seeing MPD parents in uniform at our school; it makes me feel a little safer, and I have to believe that being personally involved in the community they police makes them better cops.

Giving those public servants access to DCPS at a discounted rate seems like a win-win to me.

There are several programs to help public servants purchase in DC...why do you think so many own rental property in the city??? My former neighbor bought a townhouse next to mine under one of these "teacher/police/firefighter" programs, "lived" in it for about two months and then promptly rented it out. Free money.

When you factor in overtime and contract work, many police can make well into the six figures annually. Plus a sweet retirement package. They are not struggling.

My kid went to eaton at the same time as them, this family did not seem to be struggling financially.

I'm newish to the DC area. Can someone explain the exact places/schools involved here?

They lived in Prince Georges County, but sent their kids to school in NW? Where is Eaton? Why did the Wilson football coach turn them in? I need a primer on this, apparently.

I think the firm says something like a fine "not to exceed $2000" which is not exactly clear.

Fraud in the first degree and perjury (signing the false oath) each carry fine of $25,000 and/or not more than 10 years in prison.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No way- they can commute to their jobs and send their children to school like everyone else. There is no excuse for breaking the law.

I'm not saying you don't prosecute violators. I'm suggesting a way to give a certain type of public servant--someone provides a crucial, visible service to the city--a benefit that allows them to become even more involved in DC community life. I love seeing MPD parents in uniform at our school; it makes me feel a little safer, and I have to believe that being personally involved in the community they police makes them better cops.

Giving those public servants access to DCPS at a discounted rate seems like a win-win to me.

There are several programs to help public servants purchase in DC...why do you think so many own rental property in the city??? My former neighbor bought a townhouse next to mine under one of these "teacher/police/firefighter" programs, "lived" in it for about two months and then promptly rented it out. Free money.

When you factor in overtime and contract work, many police can make well into the six figures annually. Plus a sweet retirement package. They are not struggling.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes it is. Fraud is fraud. They all should be investigated and sued.
We all have to sign that piece of paper saying that we live at the address on the registration.
Any adult over 18 who can read and sign their name should bd held to what is stated on that form. 100%.

How do we get that to happen? I have called the fraud hotline a couple of time about definite md residents but nothing ever happened.

Let me try again. What, if any, would be the FINANCIAL penalty if the fraudster was a bonafide DC resident?

Correct. I stand corrected. Two different issues. Both are maddening and dishonest.

The form we sign does have some legal language about the penalty for fraudulently signing that form. I will look that up. There should be a fine for everyone and then responsibility for tuition payment for non dc residents. Make more sense now?

Yes I was asking if anyone knew the fine for perjury for that scenario. Before the claws come out, we are IB for Deal already

Just curious if anyone has ever been fined in that scenario. I doubt it.

I believe the forms we sign that have some legal language about the penalty for fraudulently signing that form wasn't always used, at least I don't recall them when my 10th grader was in elementary.