Anonymous wrote:I don't know much about the others, but Oberlin is a highly selective college.

Thank you!

Anonymous wrote:This is DC, where 40% of kids don't even graduate high school.

Congratulations to these kids for not only making it through high school, but getting into college.

+1 signed, whats wrong with AU, Oberlin, GW?

I suspect that you are going to start seeing much better colleges on the list in the next couple of years. These are the classes where more and more kids stayed between middle and high school. My high schooler loves school, loves learning and enjoys being in a small environment where he knows all of his teachers. He has expressed wanting the same for college, so even if he gets in to any ivy, he would probably turn it down for something that will bring out his strengths (and knowing what those are at this age is pretty amazing and a testement to a great education).

We are proud to send our kid to a school where nearly every kid goes to college despite the fact that for many they are the first in their families to do so. If we had wanted a conventionally good school where there was a guarantee of a good college in the future we would have moved to Montgomery County years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:It also depends on how much financial aid they got.
At MCPS schools, I know of 2 students who got accepted to MIT and Harvard, but stayed in MD because of the cost. Others brilliant students did not even apply out of town, knowing that they had to stay in town for family reasons. Frankly speaking I would not want to send my 17 or 18 year old to live on his own ...

Are you serious?

Absolutely! How many teens have the maturity to function well, cook, clean, do laundry, sleep adequately and concentrate on their lessons?
I would send them at 20, but not before.

PP, just curious: How old were you at your freshman year in college? Did you go away from home and if so, did Mummy go with you to help out, every step of the way?

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Anonymous wrote:Jesus, how obtuse are you people? Consider what most kids in DC do.

FWIW, I had terrific scores and grades and I went to a school in that same range as those listed above because it is where I got the best scholarship. In my HS, which was probably similar to Latin, my acceptance into that school and scholarships (as well as those of others like me) was a source of pride for the teachers.

Maybe it seems unsophisticated now, but for the first person in a family going to college it is a big deal.

A valid point. But for those of us in a different demographic (ie, high income, not the first in our family to attend college), this is a disappointing list.

Then why are you even considering Latin? It is clearly not for you.

Because other than Latin and Basis, where is a white person in PP's demographic supposed to go if they don't want Walls/private/move?

DCI.

What's DCI's college acceptance look like?

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Anonymous wrote:It also depends on how much financial aid they got.
At MCPS schools, I know of 2 students who got accepted to MIT and Harvard, but stayed in MD because of the cost. Others brilliant students did not even apply out of town, knowing that they had to stay in town for family reasons. Frankly speaking I would not want to send my 17 or 18 year old to live on his own ...

Are you serious?

Absolutely! How many teens have the maturity to function well, cook, clean, do laundry, sleep adequately and concentrate on their lessons?
I would send them at 20, but not before.

I'd say many. I was doing all those things before I left for college, so there wasn't much of a change at all. Why isn't your teen doing these things?

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Anonymous wrote:Jesus, how obtuse are you people? Consider what most kids in DC do.

FWIW, I had terrific scores and grades and I went to a school in that same range as those listed above because it is where I got the best scholarship. In my HS, which was probably similar to Latin, my acceptance into that school and scholarships (as well as those of others like me) was a source of pride for the teachers.

Maybe it seems unsophisticated now, but for the first person in a family going to college it is a big deal.

A valid point. But for those of us in a different demographic (ie, high income, not the first in our family to attend college), this is a disappointing list.

Then why are you even considering Latin? It is clearly not for you.

Because other than Latin and Basis, where is a white person in PP's demographic supposed to go if they don't want Walls/private/move?

DCI.

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Anonymous wrote:Jesus, how obtuse are you people? Consider what most kids in DC do.

FWIW, I had terrific scores and grades and I went to a school in that same range as those listed above because it is where I got the best scholarship. In my HS, which was probably similar to Latin, my acceptance into that school and scholarships (as well as those of others like me) was a source of pride for the teachers.

Maybe it seems unsophisticated now, but for the first person in a family going to college it is a big deal.

A valid point. But for those of us in a different demographic (ie, high income, not the first in our family to attend college), this is a disappointing list.

Then why are you even considering Latin? It is clearly not for you.

Because other than Latin and Basis, where is a white person in PP's demographic supposed to go if they don't want Walls/private/move?

Hence pp said "I'd hazard a guess". Pp is right - Latin kids are very plugged in. Now go take your angry pills.

Anonymous wrote:Exactly!! I am not a Latin parent or student - but I'd hazard a guess that those students in small classes with caring teachers are reaching further and doing better on AVERAGE than their compatriots at both privates and publics- and one should include the poor children at the other schools that because of stress or pressure or otherwise, succumb to drugs, depression and suicide, not to mention gangs, pregnancy and drop outs. I think that the small classes and atmosphere at Latin may do a lot to alleviate that for kids both from upper Socioeconomic classes and lower.

This is all BS and speculation. You have no idea if it is true or not.

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Anonymous wrote:Oberlin is the only one on OP's list that I would be excited for one of my kids to attend. Their music program is stellar. I'd rank it with Case Western, Reed or one of the Claremont colleges. But considering what is typical for most DC public school kids, this is not such a bad list.

Case Western was also on OP's list.

And now we understand that OP's list was a very incomplete one, for one year only. A more complete listing of college acceptances for the past several years was posted above.

I'm much more interested in the current list. It is much more useful to find out who got in where in 2015 than to find out who got in where in 2012.

That's just silly. With classes this small, there can be a real difference from one year to another in academic achievement. It would be interesting to look year to year to see if there are trends developing, but one year alone tells you very little.

Methinks your higher education did not include much training in stats.

Exactly!! I am not a Latin parent or student - but I'd hazard a guess that those students in small classes with caring teachers are reaching further and doing better on AVERAGE than their compatriots at both privates and publics- and one should include the poor children at the other schools that because of stress or pressure or otherwise, succumb to drugs, depression and suicide, not to mention gangs, pregnancy and drop outs. I think that the small classes and atmosphere at Latin may do a lot to alleviate that for kids both from upper Socioeconomic classes and lower.

OP-you may want to consider a lot of recent research like the below. Any child with the raw material to get to an IVY will get there from Latin, Wilson or Walls, I dare say a private school may make it a little more difficult, but I subscribe to the big fish, small pond theory where a school like Latin (tiny) maximizes chances if you have the chops. A child has gone to Brown and there will be Ivies to follow. I do know kids at Latin - even those who sadly, fatally, don't make it into Harvard or MIT -- also enjoy the heck out of HS at the same time. For me, engagement with learning, a great teacher and peer group and responsive administration meant more than ANYTHING while raising our child in the teen years.


"But American youth, especially teens, are not in good emotional shape. They feel mostly “bored and checked out” at school, according to adolescence scholar Larry Steinberg. Academically, they are underachieving when compared to youth in other developed nations. And their mental health is declining. During the school year, their stress has edged beyond that of adults, according to a survey of the American Psychological Association last year. They rank in the bottom quarter among other developed nations on measures of well-being, life-satisfaction, and relationship quality, according to a recent UNICEF study. "

http://time.com/3774596/american-teens-emotions/

Middlebury - 17.5% acceptance
Bates: 24.17 %
Bowdoin: 14.95
Haverford: 23.49%
Coast Guard Academy: 16.47% they accept roughly 300 a year
George Washington: 34.39% (Washington Latin has had two consecutive years of full merit scholarships awards : http://washington.cbslocal.com/2015/03/18/d-c-students-awarded-full-scholarships-to-george-washington-university/)
Colby: 26.04
Georgetown: 17.08%
William and Mary: 33%
Wesleyan University: 20.

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Anonymous wrote:It also depends on how much financial aid they got.
At MCPS schools, I know of 2 students who got accepted to MIT and Harvard, but stayed in MD because of the cost. Others brilliant students did not even apply out of town, knowing that they had to stay in town for family reasons. Frankly speaking I would not want to send my 17 or 18 year old to live on his own ...

Are you serious?

Absolutely! How many teens have the maturity to function well, cook, clean, do laundry, sleep adequately and concentrate on their lessons?
I would send them at 20, but not before.

Regarding cooking, colleges typically have these things called dining halls. Cleaning and doing laundry are somewhat optional parts of the college experience, as I recall. That is, they happened. But less than once a month. And that was not a problem.

Have your kids eat at dining halls 100% of the time. Hopefully they won't develop GI problems by the time they graduate.

I will take the risk.