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Anonymous wrote:Btw, numbers person - had you done this research ahead of time, or is that in a document somewhere that you could post? That's very interesting info

The numbers/data were provided to AAPAC by the AAP office and will be included in the report to the School Board (to be posted on BoardDocs).

Those numbers are slightly off at our school by about 3-5 students.

Numbers poster here -- the numbers I posted were as of January 2015, per the AAP office. Could there be errors? Most certainly, as I have seen some slight errors from other schools (not posted in this thread). But those were the best available numbers available/accessible.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Btw, numbers person - had you done this research ahead of time, or is that in a document somewhere that you could post? That's very interesting info

The numbers/data were provided to AAPAC by the AAP office and will be included in the report to the School Board (to be posted on BoardDocs).

Those numbers are slightly off at our school by about 3-5 students.

Anonymous wrote:How do they justify having a LLIV at that last cluster of schools?

Those schools should feed into centers only.

The huge groups should stay LLIV.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, numbers person - had you done this research ahead of time, or is that in a document somewhere that you could post? That's very interesting info

The numbers/data were provided to AAPAC by the AAP office and will be included in the report to the School Board (to be posted on BoardDocs).

How do they justify having a LLIV at that last cluster of schools?

Those schools should feed into centers only.

The huge groups should stay LLIV.

Anonymous wrote:I don't think pointing out the flaws with the system, such as running essentially an honors program and then excluding a large percentage of kids who are more than capable of handling it, is bashing. That's the great thing about living in this country, freedom of speech. And yes, I have a child in AAP and see the work they do, and it's an honors program, not a gifted program.

who the f**k claims it is a “gifted program.”?
but it is selective - so only the smartest and most precocious get in

Btw, numbers person - had you done this research ahead of time, or is that in a document somewhere that you could post? That's very interesting info

Keep those Powell kids home and GBW is close to being back at capacity.

Yet, that was NEVER discussed.

^^Also -- when looking at ES with LLIV -- there are:

21 out of 49 schools with LLIV do not have 25+ students per grade
12 out of 49 schools with LLIV do have 25+ students per grade
16 out of 49 schools with LLIV have some grades where there are 25+ students per grade

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Anonymous wrote:

Please provide examples of schools where the LLIV students could fill several classrooms at a base school. Thank you.

Powell

Great Falls, Spring Hill, Forestville, Wolf Trap...

Thank you for providing examples.

Here are the numbers of those that chose the Center and Local Level IV from these five schools. These numbers are from January.

Forestville
Grade 3: 3 choose Center, 36 choose LLIV
Grade 4: 8 choose Center, 31 choose LLIV
Grade 5: 13 choose Center, 49 choose LLIV
Grade 6: 9 choose Center, 46 choose LLIV
Total: 33 choose Center, 162 choose LLIV

Great Falls
Grade 3: 12 choose Center, 17 choose LLIV
Grade 4: 7 choose Center, 23 choose LLIV
Grade 5: 11 choose Center, 23 choose LLIV
Grade 6: 13 choose Center, 21 choose LLIV
Total: 43 choose Center, 84 choose LLIV

Powell
Grade 3: 23 choose Center, 16 choose LLIV
Grade 4: 38 choose Center, 17 choose LLIV
Grade 5: 48 choose Center, 16 choose LLIV
Grade 6: 39 choose Center, 12 choose LLIV
Total: 148 choose Center, 61 choose LLIV


Spring Hill
Grade 3: 8 choose Center, 54 choose LLIV
Grade 4: 15 choose Center, 43 choose LLIV
Grade 5: 15 choose Center, 50 choose LLIV
Grade 6: 9 choose Center, 50 choose LLIV
Total: 47 choose Center, 197 choose LLIV


Wolf Trap
Grade 3: 4 choose Center, 27 choose LLIV
Grade 4: 2 choose Center, 35 choose LLIV
Grade 5: 5 choose Center, 33 choose LLIV
Grade 6: 6 choose Center, 26 choose LLIV
Total: 17 choose Center, 121 choose LLIV


Also, another set of examples -- five schools with Local Level IV programs showing the choice between Center and LLIV:

Annandale Terrace
Grade 3: 7 choose Center, 2 choose LLIV
Grade 4: 1 choose Center, 4 choose LLIV
Grade 5: 4 choose Center, 3 choose LLIV
Total: 12 choose Center, 9 choose LLIV

Armstrong
Grade 3: 3 choose Center, 7 choose LLIV
Grade 4: 6 choose Center, 5 choose LLIV
Grade 5: 8 choose Center, 11 choose LLIV
Grade 6: 12 choose Center, 4 choose LLIV
Total: 29 choose Center, 27 choose LLIV

Beech Tree
Grade 3: 1 choose Center, 5 choose LLIV
Grade 4: 1 choose Center, 12 choose LLIV
Grade 5: 0 choose Center, 13 choose LLIV
Total: 2 choose Center, 30 choose LLIV

Braddock
Grade 3: 2 choose Center, 2 choose LLIV
Grade 4: 1 choose Center, 2 choose LLIV
Grade 5: 5 choose Center, 2 choose LLIV
Total: 8 choose Center, 6 choose LLIV


Cameron
Grade 3: 1 choose Center, 5 choose LLIV
Grade 4: 3 choose Center, 3 choose LLIV
Grade 5: 3 choose Center, 1 choose LLIV
Grade 6: 0 choose Center, 2 choose LLIV
Total: 7 choose Center, 11 choose LLIV

There are some schools with strong LLIV programs, and other schools without.

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Anonymous wrote:A couple, but there are a couple other posters who want the same answer...which I notice you still haven't answered.

I am not part of that discussion. I am only here for the bus discussion. Would not have even continued beyond my inital comment had the silly and over dramatic prolific poster had not started in about how "confusing" busing should be the downfall of AAP.

Your critical thinking skills are extremely lax if you think redundant busing is the only downfall of AAP.

I don't care about the other stuff. I think it is a good, worthwhile and mostly well done program and most of my own kids just missed qualifying.

I think the bus poster is just silly and quite frankly grasping at straws.

Use real arguments if you are against AAP, not "the busing is too confusing". I mean, really. All that is missing is the stomp of the foot, flip of the head. And a very whiney "It's not faaair"

Well, you sound charming. The argument concerning the extra busing that AAP centers entail is just one issue many of us have with AAP. The other issues (or "real arguments," in your parlance) had already been stated when the busing issue came up. You say you are "only here for the bus discussion," and I'm wondering why, since you so clearly find the whole thing silly? Why not move on?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A couple, but there are a couple other posters who want the same answer...which I notice you still haven't answered.

I am not part of that discussion. I am only here for the bus discussion. Would not have even continued beyond my inital comment had the silly and over dramatic prolific poster had not started in about how "confusing" busing should be the downfall of AAP.

Your critical thinking skills are extremely lax if you think redundant busing is the only downfall of AAP.

I don't care about the other stuff. I think it is a good, worthwhile and mostly well done program and most of my own kids just missed qualifying.

I think the bus poster is just silly and quite frankly grasping at straws.

Use real arguments if you are against AAP, not "the busing is too confusing". I mean, really. All that is missing is the stomp of the foot, flip of the head. And a very whiney "It's not faaair"

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Anonymous wrote:Fine, whatever about the bussing...can someone please address the question?

The silence seems to say to me that there is no good answer and therefore this ridiculous practice should end.

Surely you realize yours is a question best posed to the county. I doubt there's anything a parent here could say that would satisfy you. The "silence" of those who have no more control over policies than you does not mean there is no good answer to your question. Go investigate properly, if you're so curious, and report back if you want.

well, when clearly there are those making this decision, I want to know why the LLIV program just doesn't cut it for your kid and an entire classroom full of their peers. There are schools where the LLIV students could fill several classrooms at a base school, yet large numbers still choose the center. WHY?

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The answer is because they are allowed to - even encouraged to - by FCPS. It's crazy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fine, whatever about the bussing...can someone please address the question?

The silence seems to say to me that there is no good answer and therefore this ridiculous practice should end.

Surely you realize yours is a question best posed to the county. I doubt there's anything a parent here could say that would satisfy you. The "silence" of those who have no more control over policies than you does not mean there is no good answer to your question. Go investigate properly, if you're so curious, and report back if you want.

well, when clearly there are those making this decision, I want to know why the LLIV program just doesn't cut it for your kid and an entire classroom full of their peers. There are schools where the LLIV students could fill several classrooms at a base school, yet large numbers still choose the center. WHY?

Please provide examples of schools where the LLIV students could fill several classrooms at a base school. Thank you.

Powell

Great Falls, Spring Hill, Forestville, Wolf Trap...

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fine, whatever about the bussing...can someone please address the question?

The silence seems to say to me that there is no good answer and therefore this ridiculous practice should end.

Surely you realize yours is a question best posed to the county. I doubt there's anything a parent here could say that would satisfy you. The "silence" of those who have no more control over policies than you does not mean there is no good answer to your question. Go investigate properly, if you're so curious, and report back if you want.

well, when clearly there are those making this decision, I want to know why the LLIV program just doesn't cut it for your kid and an entire classroom full of their peers. There are schools where the LLIV students could fill several classrooms at a base school, yet large numbers still choose the center. WHY?

Please provide examples of schools where the LLIV students could fill several classrooms at a base school. Thank you.

Powell