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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the argument of all supporters of this transgender women. If it is not a big deal to see genitals of opposite sex, why didn't she go to man's changing room? It would not be a big deal for her to look at the mans genitals. She wouldn't even see anything, because she is not going there to look around.

She didn't go into the men's changing room because she is not a man, she is a woman. Same reason I don't go to the men's changing room.

Wrong. S/he thinks it's a woman. That's a mental disorder, trying to be corrected by PCB.

What are your medical qualifications?

Also, referring to human beings as "it" is really offensive.

What are yours?

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Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord. What is this world coming to?
We need to be sure that people FEEL good. We need to help people FEEL included. We need to acknowledge the FEELINGS of others.
Damn the FEELINGS of the woman who was shocked to see a man, YES, A MAN, in the woman’s locker room.
Planet Fitness will change its policy when some woman is raped in the locker room by a man posing as a transgender person.

Women have been sexually assaulted by men for a very long time, well before there were things such as locker rooms. I'm pretty confident that if a man wants to rape a woman, he will figure out how to do it without having to pose as a transgendered person at Planet Fitness. :roll:

Why make it so easy for them.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the argument of all supporters of this transgender women. If it is not a big deal to see genitals of opposite sex, why didn't she go to man's changing room? It would not be a big deal for her to look at the mans genitals. She wouldn't even see anything, because she is not going there to look around.

She didn't go into the men's changing room because she is not a man, she is a woman. Same reason I don't go to the men's changing room.

Wrong. S/he thinks it's a woman. That's a mental disorder, trying to be corrected by PCB.

What are your medical qualifications?

Also, referring to human beings as "it" is really offensive.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord. What is this world coming to?
We need to be sure that people FEEL good. We need to help people FEEL included. We need to acknowledge the FEELINGS of others.
Damn the FEELINGS of the woman who was shocked to see a man, YES, A MAN, in the woman’s locker room.
Planet Fitness will change its policy when some woman is raped in the locker room by a man posing as a transgender person.

What gym are you going to? I have four 24 hour gyms within 1-2 miles of my house in the suburbs and they are ALWAYS packed. I hardly doubt there is some conspiracy for men to pose as transgender in order the rape women. There are a lot of other things I would worry about before this even made my list of concerns.

Because it hasn't caught on yet. The awareness about transgender people is relatively new. The communities are slowly growing, people learn more, it's more present in every day life, schools etc. The day will come when criminals catch on to the chance and take it. It's only a matter of time and once the first one does it there will be more. Just like with transgender people. One started. Then more came. Now there are many open about it, talking about it, being in the media etc. It will happen.

But my point is that most gyms are way too crowded for a rape to take place in a locker room. In fact, most public places such as restaurants, shops, etc. are fairly crowded and have people going in and out of the bathroom. If there is a tucked away bathroom that does not get much foot traffic, then there really isn't much to stop a man (dressed as a woman or not) from trying to commit a crime there. It's probably a good idea to just be vigilant whenever you're in a secluded place, but I don't see why this should preclude equality for those who are not gender conforming (keep in mind many people have ambiguous gender due to chromosomal issues). Should they be forced to hide at home because you are scared of some hypothetical crime that doesn't seem to even be a widespread issue?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the argument of all supporters of this transgender women. If it is not a big deal to see genitals of opposite sex, why didn't she go to man's changing room? It would not be a big deal for her to look at the mans genitals. She wouldn't even see anything, because she is not going there to look around.

She didn't go into the men's changing room because she is not a man, she is a woman. Same reason I don't go to the men's changing room.

Wrong. S/he thinks it's a woman. That's a mental disorder, trying to be corrected by PCB.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the argument of all supporters of this transgender women. If it is not a big deal to see genitals of opposite sex, why didn't she go to man's changing room? It would not be a big deal for her to look at the mans genitals. She wouldn't even see anything, because she is not going there to look around.

She didn't go into the men's changing room because she is not a man, she is a woman. Same reason I don't go to the men's changing room.

Yes, but if there is no harm in viewing men's private parts, why couldn't she go to men's room? Seems like no harm would be done for her.

Are you a woman? Why don't you go to the men's changing room?

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Because it hasn't caught on yet. The awareness about transgender people is relatively new. The communities are slowly growing, people learn more, it's more present in every day life, schools etc. The day will come when criminals catch on to the chance and take it. It's only a matter of time and once the first one does it there will be more. Just like with transgender people. One started. Then more came. Now there are many open about it, talking about it, being in the media etc. It will happen.

The day has long since arrived when criminals assault transgender people in bathrooms.

Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord. What is this world coming to?
We need to be sure that people FEEL good. We need to help people FEEL included. We need to acknowledge the FEELINGS of others.
Damn the FEELINGS of the woman who was shocked to see a man, YES, A MAN, in the woman’s locker room.
Planet Fitness will change its policy when some woman is raped in the locker room by a man posing as a transgender person.

Women have been sexually assaulted by men for a very long time, well before there were things such as locker rooms. I'm pretty confident that if a man wants to rape a woman, he will figure out how to do it without having to pose as a transgendered person at Planet Fitness.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the argument of all supporters of this transgender women. If it is not a big deal to see genitals of opposite sex, why didn't she go to man's changing room? It would not be a big deal for her to look at the mans genitals. She wouldn't even see anything, because she is not going there to look around.

She didn't go into the men's changing room because she is not a man, she is a woman. Same reason I don't go to the men's changing room.

Yes, but if there is no harm in viewing men's private parts, why couldn't she go to men's room? Seems like no harm would be done for her.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord. What is this world coming to?
We need to be sure that people FEEL good. We need to help people FEEL included. We need to acknowledge the FEELINGS of others.
Damn the FEELINGS of the woman who was shocked to see a man, YES, A MAN, in the woman’s locker room.
Planet Fitness will change its policy when some woman is raped in the locker room by a man posing as a transgender person.

What gym are you going to? I have four 24 hour gyms within 1-2 miles of my house in the suburbs and they are ALWAYS packed. I hardly doubt there is some conspiracy for men to pose as transgender in order the rape women. There are a lot of other things I would worry about before this even made my list of concerns.

Because it hasn't caught on yet. The awareness about transgender people is relatively new. The communities are slowly growing, people learn more, it's more present in every day life, schools etc. The day will come when criminals catch on to the chance and take it. It's only a matter of time and once the first one does it there will be more. Just like with transgender people. One started. Then more came. Now there are many open about it, talking about it, being in the media etc. It will happen.

Anonymous wrote:Dear Lord. What is this world coming to?
We need to be sure that people FEEL good. We need to help people FEEL included. We need to acknowledge the FEELINGS of others.
Damn the FEELINGS of the woman who was shocked to see a man, YES, A MAN, in the woman’s locker room.
Planet Fitness will change its policy when some woman is raped in the locker room by a man posing as a transgender person.

What gym are you going to? I have four 24 hour gyms within 1-2 miles of my house in the suburbs and they are ALWAYS packed. I hardly doubt there is some conspiracy for men to pose as transgender in order the rape women. There are a lot of other things I would worry about before this even made my list of concerns.

Anonymous wrote:So if all locker rooms consisted of single stalls, and all public bathrooms consisted of single stalls, everybody would be fine with having unigender locker rooms/public bathrooms?

Everybody...how am I supposed to know that? Me? Absolutely! If everything was single stall that would be separation in itself, no need to separate any further. Of course there would need to be some "single" stalls large enough for a parent with children that need help changing so I think additional family changing rooms would still be useful - you would not be allowed to enter them without children, only adult supervising children would be allowed using them. I think that would work.

The problem with this is that the system in place would need to be removed completely first. That is a lot more work and much more expensive than just adding extra changing rooms would be my guess.

Anonymous wrote:So if all locker rooms consisted of single stalls, and all public bathrooms consisted of single stalls, everybody would be fine with having unigender locker rooms/public bathrooms?

^^^given that nobody would be seeing anybody's genitals.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry. If you have a penis, use the men's room. I don't give a crap what you "feel" like. If a business wants to invest in a third private changing area, more power to them, but imposing on the vast majority of conforming population is bullshit PC gone amok.

You know there are some people who have ambiguous genitalia. According to your Very Important Opinion, which bathroom do you dictate they go to? Do you need to personally examine everyone's bits?

If someone's private parts offend you, maybe don't look? Are you aware that you share a bathroom & locker room with lesbians? How does that make you feel?

+1. If you need to be that sheltered, then stay at home.

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the argument of all supporters of this transgender women. If it is not a big deal to see genitals of opposite sex, why didn't she go to man's changing room? It would not be a big deal for her to look at the mans genitals. She wouldn't even see anything, because she is not going there to look around.

She didn't go into the men's changing room because she is not a man, she is a woman. Same reason I don't go to the men's changing room.