Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Suprised at the number of people concerned about 4-5-6-7 year olds boys in the locker room. I know when I change I do so quickly and discretely. Also I try not to look at others while they are changing. I teach my children to do the same in public lockers. Not sure what the big problem is.
I've been a locker room where the 5-6-7 year old stood around and stared at the naked old ladies. It wasn't sexual, just obnoxious and rude. The ladies' locker room is for ladies to change. I shouldn't have to hunt down a bathroom stall to change because OP is too privileged to wait for the family locker room or change her kid in the handicapped stall in the women's room.
I have, in fact, said something to mothers who bring their big boys into the ladies' room. I am polite, but firm, and tell them that the rules of the pool are that boys over the age of 3 are too big to be in the ladies' locker room and that they should use the family locker rooms. I also tell them that their children are making other people uncomfortable. I've had a few people yell back at me, but I promise you that their embarrassment (breaking rules, rude kid, now Mom is acting rudely, too) was a lot greater than my discomfort over their rudeness.
If you are uncomfortable, you go in the stall. A handicapped stall is just that. It is for handicapped. It is not your personal dressing room. I only used them with a child in a stroller or otherwise you squeeze into a regular stall. You would not park in a handicapped spot, so why would you use a stall. If those women are not comfortable, then they need to be more discrete. You are not the changing room police. My three year old was nonverbal and could not change himself. He would not have even understood me telling him to walk through, let alone change. He could not even tell you his name if he had a problem. Really, you think it is safe and appropiate?
Where are all these family locker rooms you talk about? I have yet to see one at the county pool we go to. You are not getting not everyone belongs to a country club or pool and some of us make due with the options available to us.
I would never be embarrased to tell you to mind your own business or I am getting staff based off of your harassment.
You are the one who belongs in the stall if you want privacy. Really, no one wants to look at your sagging breasts, belly and wrinkly body.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Suprised at the number of people concerned about 4-5-6-7 year olds boys in the locker room. I know when I change I do so quickly and discretely. Also I try not to look at others while they are changing. I teach my children to do the same in public lockers. Not sure what the big problem is.
I've been a locker room where the 5-6-7 year old stood around and stared at the naked old ladies. It wasn't sexual, just obnoxious and rude. The ladies' locker room is for ladies to change. I shouldn't have to hunt down a bathroom stall to change because OP is too privileged to wait for the family locker room or change her kid in the handicapped stall in the women's room.
I have, in fact, said something to mothers who bring their big boys into the ladies' room. I am polite, but firm, and tell them that the rules of the pool are that boys over the age of 3 are too big to be in the ladies' locker room and that they should use the family locker rooms. I also tell them that their children are making other people uncomfortable. I've had a few people yell back at me, but I promise you that their embarrassment (breaking rules, rude kid, now Mom is acting rudely, too) was a lot greater than my discomfort over their rudeness.
If you are uncomfortable, you go in the stall. A handicapped stall is just that. It is for handicapped. It is not your personal dressing room. I only used them with a child in a stroller or otherwise you squeeze into a regular stall. You would not park in a handicapped spot, so why would you use a stall. If those women are not comfortable, then they need to be more discrete. You are not the changing room police. My three year old was nonverbal and could not change himself. He would not have even understood me telling him to walk through, let alone change. He could not even tell you his name if he had a problem. Really, you think it is safe and appropiate?
Where are all these family locker rooms you talk about? I have yet to see one at the county pool we go to. You are not getting not everyone belongs to a country club or pool and some of us make due with the options available to us.
I would never be embarrased to tell you to mind your own business or I am getting staff based off of your harassment.
You are the one who belongs in the stall if you want privacy. Really, no one wants to look at your sagging breasts, belly and wrinkly body.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For parents of kids with SN, what is your plan when your child is over the stated age allowed in the locker room?
Hopefully soon the thousands and thousands we pay in multiple times a week therapy will pay off, but regardless of special needs, he will stay with a parent till we are comfortable. Even if he had no special needs, a five year old has no business being unsupervised in a locker room. That is neglect.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For parents of kids with SN, what is your plan when your child is over the stated age allowed in the locker room?
Hopefully soon the thousands and thousands we pay in multiple times a week therapy will pay off, but regardless of special needs, he will stay with a parent till we are comfortable. Even if he had no special needs, a five year old has no business being unsupervised in a locker room. That is neglect.
Anonymous wrote:If your kid is over the age of the rule for the locker rooms at your pool, then you should not be bringing him/her into the opposite sex locker room. It's that simple. If you are not comfortable having your child change in the same sex locker room, then put dry clothes on over his/her suit and go home and change.
If you think the age limit at your pool is not appropriate (either too old or too young), then speak to management, suck it up or change pools.
Why are you all making this so difficult?
Anonymous wrote:For parents of kids with SN, what is your plan when your child is over the stated age allowed in the locker room?
Anonymous wrote:
Where are all these family locker rooms you talk about?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Suprised at the number of people concerned about 4-5-6-7 year olds boys in the locker room. I know when I change I do so quickly and discretely. Also I try not to look at others while they are changing. I teach my children to do the same in public lockers. Not sure what the big problem is.
I've been a locker room where the 5-6-7 year old stood around and stared at the naked old ladies. It wasn't sexual, just obnoxious and rude. The ladies' locker room is for ladies to change. I shouldn't have to hunt down a bathroom stall to change because OP is too privileged to wait for the family locker room or change her kid in the handicapped stall in the women's room.
I have, in fact, said something to mothers who bring their big boys into the ladies' room. I am polite, but firm, and tell them that the rules of the pool are that boys over the age of 3 are too big to be in the ladies' locker room and that they should use the family locker rooms. I also tell them that their children are making other people uncomfortable. I've had a few people yell back at me, but I promise you that their embarrassment (breaking rules, rude kid, now Mom is acting rudely, too) was a lot greater than my discomfort over their rudeness.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
My kids started year round swimming at 5. That meant I waited for a family changing room if we were at a pool that had one or I held a towel up and changed them in a quietish corner or I threw a robe on them and drove them home if it was warm. I'm not a free range parent but I'm also not going to intrude on someone else's privacy. I would sometimes also use a women's restroom that wasn't a changing room to get them changed. Have I been boiling hot at a pool trying to hold up a towel and change my kid with sweat pouring off of me because I am not intruding on others and have a 5.5/6 year old. Yes. Is it miserable for a FEW MINUTES for me? Yes, but big deal. Knowing I have kids of different sexes, I knew I wouldn't want my kids uncomfortable with someone in the locker room of their designated sex. If I see you in the locker room with a kid who clearly doesn't belong there, I'm saying something to you.
It is a public locker room, "privacy" is rather relative here.
And just because you want to martyr yourself doesn't mean that others need to. A lot of pools allow kids of the opposite gender to accompany their parents into the locker room up through a certain age, 5 or 6 seems common.
I mean really can't you understand that what works for your family may not work for others for a variety of reasons - there could be lots of reasons people may not want to change their children poolside. The first too that come to mend are:
- parent also needs to change out of swimwear
- kid also needs to use the bathroom
And then I start to think of special needs many of which are not always obvious.
+1, most people do not realize my child has special needs nor is it something I announce.
I have changed my SN in the handicapped stall of the ladies room many times. I changed myself there, too. There is absolutely no reason not to do this, if there is one available.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
My kids started year round swimming at 5. That meant I waited for a family changing room if we were at a pool that had one or I held a towel up and changed them in a quietish corner or I threw a robe on them and drove them home if it was warm. I'm not a free range parent but I'm also not going to intrude on someone else's privacy. I would sometimes also use a women's restroom that wasn't a changing room to get them changed. Have I been boiling hot at a pool trying to hold up a towel and change my kid with sweat pouring off of me because I am not intruding on others and have a 5.5/6 year old. Yes. Is it miserable for a FEW MINUTES for me? Yes, but big deal. Knowing I have kids of different sexes, I knew I wouldn't want my kids uncomfortable with someone in the locker room of their designated sex. If I see you in the locker room with a kid who clearly doesn't belong there, I'm saying something to you.
It is a public locker room, "privacy" is rather relative here.
And just because you want to martyr yourself doesn't mean that others need to. A lot of pools allow kids of the opposite gender to accompany their parents into the locker room up through a certain age, 5 or 6 seems common.
I mean really can't you understand that what works for your family may not work for others for a variety of reasons - there could be lots of reasons people may not want to change their children poolside. The first too that come to mend are:
- parent also needs to change out of swimwear
- kid also needs to use the bathroom
And then I start to think of special needs many of which are not always obvious.
+1, most people do not realize my child has special needs nor is it something I announce.
Anonymous wrote:Suprised at the number of people concerned about 4-5-6-7 year olds boys in the locker room. I know when I change I do so quickly and discretely. Also I try not to look at others while they are changing. I teach my children to do the same in public lockers. Not sure what the big problem is.
Anonymous wrote: If you said something to me you would be very unhappy with what I said back.