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Anonymous wrote:Penn is better than Cornell, but otherwise bottom-tier Ivy.

Penn is better than Cornell, Brown and Dartmouth. These three are the bottom-tier ivies. Penn and Columbia are in the middle. HYP are the top.

Penn isn't really better than Brown or Dartmouth, just Cornell, even though Penn has more people trying to assert its standing.

Sorry to say this but it actually is way better than Brown and Dartmouth. 99% of all rankings (college or university, domestic or international) think so too. Also look at the yield rates, the cross admit splits, the endowments, the caliber of the faculty, the strength of the individual departments etc. Penn is for sure well above Brown and Dartmouth. Both Brown and Dartmouth are much closer to Cornell then they are to Penn.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Penn is better than Cornell, but otherwise bottom-tier Ivy.

Penn is better than Cornell, Brown and Dartmouth. These three are the bottom-tier ivies. Penn and Columbia are in the middle. HYP are the top.

Penn isn't really better than Brown or Dartmouth, just Cornell, even though Penn has more people trying to assert its standing.

Yes, according to all rankings, Penn is better than Cornell, Brown and Dartmouth.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Penn is better than Cornell, but otherwise bottom-tier Ivy.

Penn is better than Cornell, Brown and Dartmouth. These three are the bottom-tier ivies. Penn and Columbia are in the middle. HYP are the top.

Penn isn't really better than Brown or Dartmouth, just Cornell, even though Penn has more people trying to assert its standing.

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Anonymous wrote:I know someone who turned down Harvard forpenn state.

Granted it was the bs/md combined program that you can finish in 6 years

I think you mean U. of Penn.

No penn state. Penn doesn’t have a six year bsmd program

well that was a really stupid, short-sighted decision.

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Anonymous wrote:I know someone who turned down Harvard forpenn state.

Granted it was the bs/md combined program that you can finish in 6 years

I think you mean U. of Penn.

No penn state. Penn doesn’t have a six year bsmd program

Very common for coordinated degree kids to turn down HYPSM. Not too common for single Wharton degree admits to do so but it happens. Extremely uncommon for non-Wharton, non-coordinated degree admits to turn down HYPSM for Penn.

-Penn alum and Penn parent

Anonymous wrote:Penn is better than Cornell, but otherwise bottom-tier Ivy.

Penn is better than Cornell, Brown and Dartmouth. These three are the bottom-tier ivies. Penn and Columbia are in the middle. HYP are the top.

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Anonymous wrote:I know someone who turned down Harvard forpenn state.

Granted it was the bs/md combined program that you can finish in 6 years

I think you mean U. of Penn.

No, they probably mean penn state. The scuffle over ranking colleges is ridiculous. The students who graduate at the bottom of Ivies probably would have done better at their local state school where they could have shined.

Anonymous wrote:I know someone who turned down Harvard forpenn state.

Granted it was the bs/md combined program that you can finish in 6 years

I think you mean U. of Penn.

Penn is better than Cornell, but otherwise bottom-tier Ivy.

It has one of the best physics departments, certainly better than HY, and probably P.

I know someone who turned down Harvard for penn state.

Granted it was the bs/md combined program that you can finish in 6 years

*make much difference - sorry autocorrect

Anonymous wrote:I call BS on Wharton wins any cross-admit battles with HYPS. Cite a source.

No one said Wharton WINS the battle. The Penn dual degree programs have a big number of HYPS cross-admits. Ask any current Penn student and recent alum and they will tell you that. The cross admit split here is pretty even but of course the dual degree programs are rather small so overall this doesn't make much different in how Penn performs overall against HYPS for cross admits. Now at Wharton there is a smallish but not negligible number of students who turned down HYPS, and especially YP. Turning down H,S is quite rarer due to their higher prestige. That said, overall HYPS wins the cross-admit against Wharton. The only reasons HYPS admits ever turn down HYPS in any significant numbers are MIT, Caltech, Penn dual degrees and Penn Wharton.

Anonymous wrote:I call BS on Wharton wins any cross-admit battles with HYPS. Cite a source.

Fisher program does