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Anonymous wrote:"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

+100 The US is so busy thinking about trivial things while all over the world there is unrest and hatred towards us.

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Anonymous wrote:^^ Actually wars have traditionally brought the USA out of economic slumps, as WWII did with the Great Depression.

Uh no, that's a fallacy. http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2013/11/30/the-great-depression-was-ended-by-the-end-of-world-war-ii-not-the-start-of-it/

In any case I guess we know what it takes for conservatives to believe in stimulus. It has to come with thousands of war dead, and tens of thousands of wounded Americans.

You don't know who Peter Ferrara is, do you?

Anonymous wrote:"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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Anonymous wrote:^^ Actually wars have traditionally brought the USA out of economic slumps, as WWII did with the Great Depression.

Uh no, that's a fallacy. http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2013/11/30/the-great-depression-was-ended-by-the-end-of-world-war-ii-not-the-start-of-it/

In any case I guess we know what it takes for conservatives to believe in stimulus. It has to come with thousands of war dead, and tens of thousands of wounded Americans.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Christian Syrian, and I am utterly DISGUSTED. I don't know why on earth we would attack Pres Assad over the objections of the Catholic church on ground zero there, ask Assad to step down, support the terrorist rebels, and now spend years playing oh, I dont know, hundreds of rounds of golf while my christian brothers and sisters suffer and die. While we are BUILDING SCHOOLS AND INFRASTRUCTURE for Afghanistan??? Are you kidding me??? I am embarrassed.

I hear you. And, is anybody aware that Foley and Sotloff were covering the 'moderate rebels' and that those 'moderate rebels' sold them to ISIS? WTF is this arm the moderate rebels strategy. I also hear that the 'moderate rebels' are selling their materiel onward to ISIS.

And so now we will fight ISIS who is using all the weaponry we ourselves shipped into the region. WTF is the matter with us? If we had just negotiated a SOFA in Iraq, we would not be here. And for the record, I was strongly against going into Iraq, but 'let's pretend all of this never happened and tiptoe away' is not a strategy.

Anonymous wrote:I'm a Christian Syrian, and I am utterly DISGUSTED. I don't know why on earth we would attack Pres Assad over the objections of the Catholic church on ground zero there, ask Assad to step down, support the terrorist rebels, and now spend years playing oh, I dont know, hundreds of rounds of golf while my christian brothers and sisters suffer and die. While we are BUILDING SCHOOLS AND INFRASTRUCTURE for Afghanistan??? Are you kidding me??? I am embarrassed.

Anonymous wrote:I'm scared that dc is likely a top terrorist target. There's no way to prevent an attack 100% and I'm scared of getting caught up in something.

Anonymous wrote:^^ Actually wars have traditionally brought the USA out of economic slumps, as WWII did with the Great Depression.

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Anonymous wrote:I am worried that we are not taking terrorism seriously anymore considering everything that happened on 9/11 and the "clues" we missed cause we fell asleep at the wheel.

I blame the entire political environment and both parties. Everyone is trying to score cool points and not learn from lessons of the past. I fear that if we have another terrorist attack in this country, we'll look back at benghazi and how instead of focusing on any security lapse's or lessons learned, we spent out time playing gotcha trying to blame people in the administration. We will look back at how ISIS/IS increased its strength and influence because we as a country did nothing to slow them down. In the end the finger pointing will be 100 times worse with folks blaming obama, republicans, or some made up creation in their mind.

In the end, am I scared to death? No. Just worried and angry that our politicians are playing too many games and its going to end up biting us in the ass. I just hope it doesnt.

Maybe we should look at WHY people attack us. "They hate our freeeeedom" is a feel-good cop-out, not much different than saying the bullies at your school pick on you because they are jealous of your intelligence.

NP here. Because America has engaged in policies terrorists don't like, and also as part of a religious fight. This is well known. Also, to extend your analogy, a lot of the reason terrorists attack America is not America's own fault. ISIS, however, is not attacking American soil, and is attacking other Middle Eastern countries, so motives related to America's actions do not apply.

Yes, I'm sure they didn't mind us overthrowing Iraq and installing the Shiites, whom they are now fighting.

I never said that. "Policies terrorists don't like" would obviously include that. I probably should have listed some. In any case, the probable reason for the murders of Foley and Sotloff is our recent airstrikes, which were completely justified, given ISIS' persecution of the Yazidis.

So you want to ignore the root cause, and just focus on the proximate ones. The fact is that IS would not be in Iraq, maybe wouldn't even exist, if not for the Iraq war.

We clearly are not making the Middle East a better place. There's a pretty good argument that we make it a worse place. So given that our overall impact is not good, we should get out and not make ourselves a target.

PP here. I know that, but the fact is that ISIS killed innocent people after the US had gotten out of Iraq. Someone has to stop ISIS and save the Yazidis from persecution, and this is coming from someone who was against the Iraq war.

So - you are FOR war in Iraq after you were against war in Iraq? How do you feel about demanding an exit strategy, a fixed withdrawal date, and prior congressional approval?