Anonymous
07/12/2014 14:09
Subject: Rent a 2nd place in a better boundary
If you want to put a more human face on who you'd be screwing over by cheating on residency (and, yes, you are cheating if you just rent a place IB and do not move there), consider this:
At our inbounds school with a long IB PS3 and PK4 waitlist, a lot of parents with IB kids on the waitlist now need to:
1) keep paying $15K for private preschool
2) try to get an OOB slot at another school (legally) potentially with a long commute.
So if you are taking one of the IB slots by cheating, you are actually hurting people.
At our inbounds school with a long IB PS3 and PK4 waitlist, a lot of parents with IB kids on the waitlist now need to:
1) keep paying $15K for private preschool
2) try to get an OOB slot at another school (legally) potentially with a long commute.
So if you are taking one of the IB slots by cheating, you are actually hurting people.
Anonymous
07/12/2014 13:49
Subject: Re:Rent a 2nd place in a better boundary
Anonymous wrote:We are in JKLM in a 3 bd/2ba for $2300. Not the fanciest there ever was, but it works!
So this was actually a rental we found in 2014. And yes, this is our primary residence, we can only afford one home!! It is in major need of renovation, but everything is functioning and is plenty of room for our current family of 3. We had to look long and hard for this, but was glad to find it if we stay for elementary.
Anonymous
07/12/2014 09:41
Subject: Re:Rent a 2nd place in a better boundary
Some of us spent two years of weekends at Home Depot, Lowe's and IKEA in the process of renovating shells so we could afford to own and live in-boundary for a decent school (Brent in our case) on government and NGO salaries.
We put huge sweat equity into demanding historic properties. We learned to tile, caulk and paint. We bought old pick-up trucks and schlepped all manner of "finishes" from lumber yards and tile and lighting stores to our homes. We hacked down high weeds and erradicated rock gardens from our yards and street boxes. We lobbied DDOT and ANCs to pave our sidewalks and streets. We put up with the hassles of lfe on wild and wooly blocks until gentrification brought investment and change.
No sympathy to the lazy few renting a 2nd place to live in-boundary for a better school.
We put huge sweat equity into demanding historic properties. We learned to tile, caulk and paint. We bought old pick-up trucks and schlepped all manner of "finishes" from lumber yards and tile and lighting stores to our homes. We hacked down high weeds and erradicated rock gardens from our yards and street boxes. We lobbied DDOT and ANCs to pave our sidewalks and streets. We put up with the hassles of lfe on wild and wooly blocks until gentrification brought investment and change.
No sympathy to the lazy few renting a 2nd place to live in-boundary for a better school.
Anonymous
07/12/2014 09:35
Subject: Rent a 2nd place in a better boundary
Do you have an echo?
Anonymous
07/12/2014 09:27
Subject: Rent a 2nd place in a better boundary
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is really simple. If you do not live IB (look up the definition), then you are OB. You can either move IB or you can find out if there are legal ways to attend as OB. If you live OB but claim to live IB (in whatever creative way you dream up), you would be breaking the law and would have to lie every day you send your child to school. You would have to require that your child lie and would be teaching your child that lying is OK.
You could pretend that you have the moral high ground, but you wouldn't. You would just be a liar and a cheat.
You sound unhinged. My kids go to plenty of friend's houses that are clearly OOB for our JKLMM school. I never think about how they got into the school. I can assure you the kids don't seem burdened by the fact they may be lying.
Uh. Maybe they're not lying and that's why they don't seem burdened. Maybe they entered OOB legitimately.
Exactly. The unhinged poster thinks everyone is lying. Even if they are, no one has a clue or cares!
Why is it unhinged to think ans say that lying is shitty and wrong? It IS wrong. It IS bad.
If I'm taking my Kindergarten kid to a playdate at an OOB house at a school that is closed to OOB students, you'd better believe I'm turned off by that.
They're liars. They think they're better than other people; that they don't have to play by the rules. "Moving in with grandpa" is the same thing.
I get that you're doing it for your kid, but it's wrong, and it implies that you think it's ok to cheat for your family because your family is more special than other families. Believe me, you're not the only family with the issue of living in bad to so-so school district. The fact that some people choose to solve that problem by cheating is reprehensible, in my opinion. Calling this kind of judgement unhinged isn't fair, it's defensive and it is suspect.
Shut up
Is that supposed to be the voice of reason?
Anonymous
07/12/2014 09:26
Subject: Rent a 2nd place in a better boundary
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is really simple. If you do not live IB (look up the definition), then you are OB. You can either move IB or you can find out if there are legal ways to attend as OB. If you live OB but claim to live IB (in whatever creative way you dream up), you would be breaking the law and would have to lie every day you send your child to school. You would have to require that your child lie and would be teaching your child that lying is OK.
You could pretend that you have the moral high ground, but you wouldn't. You would just be a liar and a cheat.
You sound unhinged. My kids go to plenty of friend's houses that are clearly OOB for our JKLMM school. I never think about how they got into the school. I can assure you the kids don't seem burdened by the fact they may be lying.
Uh. Maybe they're not lying and that's why they don't seem burdened. Maybe they entered OOB legitimately.
Exactly. The unhinged poster thinks everyone is lying. Even if they are, no one has a clue or cares!
Why is it unhinged to think ans say that lying is shitty and wrong? It IS wrong. It IS bad.
If I'm taking my Kindergarten kid to a playdate at an OOB house at a school that is closed to OOB students, you'd better believe I'm turned off by that.
They're liars. They think they're better than other people; that they don't have to play by the rules. "Moving in with grandpa" is the same thing.
I get that you're doing it for your kid, but it's wrong, and it implies that you think it's ok to cheat for your family because your family is more special than other families. Believe me, you're not the only family with the issue of living in bad to so-so school district. The fact that some people choose to solve that problem by cheating is reprehensible, in my opinion. Calling this kind of judgement unhinged isn't fair, it's defensive and it is suspect.
Shut up
Is that supposed to be the voice of reason?
Anonymous
07/12/2014 08:04
Subject: Rent a 2nd place in a better boundary
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is really simple. If you do not live IB (look up the definition), then you are OB. You can either move IB or you can find out if there are legal ways to attend as OB. If you live OB but claim to live IB (in whatever creative way you dream up), you would be breaking the law and would have to lie every day you send your child to school. You would have to require that your child lie and would be teaching your child that lying is OK.
You could pretend that you have the moral high ground, but you wouldn't. You would just be a liar and a cheat.
You sound unhinged. My kids go to plenty of friend's houses that are clearly OOB for our JKLMM school. I never think about how they got into the school. I can assure you the kids don't seem burdened by the fact they may be lying.
Uh. Maybe they're not lying and that's why they don't seem burdened. Maybe they entered OOB legitimately.
Exactly. The unhinged poster thinks everyone is lying. Even if they are, no one has a clue or cares!
Why is it unhinged to think ans say that lying is shitty and wrong? It IS wrong. It IS bad.
If I'm taking my Kindergarten kid to a playdate at an OOB house at a school that is closed to OOB students, you'd better believe I'm turned off by that.
They're liars. They think they're better than other people; that they don't have to play by the rules. "Moving in with grandpa" is the same thing.
I get that you're doing it for your kid, but it's wrong, and it implies that you think it's ok to cheat for your family because your family is more special than other families. Believe me, you're not the only family with the issue of living in bad to so-so school district. The fact that some people choose to solve that problem by cheating is reprehensible, in my opinion. Calling this kind of judgement unhinged isn't fair, it's defensive and it is suspect.
Shut up
Anonymous
07/12/2014 07:43
Subject: Rent a 2nd place in a better boundary
Lots of autocorrect in there, I apologize.
Com = am
Love =live
Com = am
Love =live
Anonymous
07/12/2014 07:41
Subject: Rent a 2nd place in a better boundary
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No it's not. The crux of the issue is that I'm not sending my kid to a crap school so that a bunch of righteous a@$holes won't think I'm bad. And really- you have never used connections to get a job ect.? That's bullshit.
To me the worst part is the message you are sending to your kid and your values. I am working to make my extremely low performing school better for all kids and, if I fail, I will move to where I can afford to live and send my kid to a good school.
Not that simple if the place you can afford with good schools is a two-hour commute from your work (and some people can't change jobs). I would rather have an extra 3-4 hours a day with my children (that is 15-16 hours a week) and have them think cheating is sometimes ok then see them only on weekends and teach them cheating is always wrong.
The problem is the cost of real estate in this area.
Now this has nothing to do with me (we are in a charter), but you have to admit that "choices" in the DC area are really grim. I moved here thinking I could choose a small house or condo or TH and thereby get good schools and a short commute, but I quickly found out that a three bedroom condo that met that criteria was far beyond what we could afford (and we make a lot!). In a place where tear downs in the only good school districts sell for 700,000, we have to scramble to get what we can any way we can.
Cry me a river. Excuses, excuses, excuses. We get it. You think you're entitled to lie. Why, you couldn't live in a three bedroom otherwise!
+100
Have you checked out the real estate in takoma park or silver spring? I com sure it is not as convenient as where you currently love but it is not 2 hours away and people can and do afford to live there, get good educations for their children and commute to DC. Is it super cool and trendy, no, but neither is parenting generally.
Anonymous
07/12/2014 07:09
Subject: Rent a 2nd place in a better boundary
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No it's not. The crux of the issue is that I'm not sending my kid to a crap school so that a bunch of righteous a@$holes won't think I'm bad. And really- you have never used connections to get a job ect.? That's bullshit.
To me the worst part is the message you are sending to your kid and your values. I am working to make my extremely low performing school better for all kids and, if I fail, I will move to where I can afford to live and send my kid to a good school.
Not that simple if the place you can afford with good schools is a two-hour commute from your work (and some people can't change jobs). I would rather have an extra 3-4 hours a day with my children (that is 15-16 hours a week) and have them think cheating is sometimes ok then see them only on weekends and teach them cheating is always wrong.
The problem is the cost of real estate in this area.
Now this has nothing to do with me (we are in a charter), but you have to admit that "choices" in the DC area are really grim. I moved here thinking I could choose a small house or condo or TH and thereby get good schools and a short commute, but I quickly found out that a three bedroom condo that met that criteria was far beyond what we could afford (and we make a lot!). In a place where tear downs in the only good school districts sell for 700,000, we have to scramble to get what we can any way we can.
Cry me a river. Excuses, excuses, excuses. We get it. You think you're entitled to lie. Why, you couldn't live in a three bedroom otherwise!
Anonymous
07/12/2014 06:50
Subject: Rent a 2nd place in a better boundary
My minority friend who lives in maryland uses a dc address for her son, white folks arent the only ones cheating the system.
Anonymous
07/12/2014 06:04
Subject: Rent a 2nd place in a better boundary
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If the rules allow for it, like the joint custody poster above, you can go to DCPS and ask. Why do I think many people posing various themes of "I pay rent on the studio apt neither I nor my child live in" or "I pay dc taxes" are likely unwilling to go to DCPS and ask if their proposal is allowed by the rules. They know the answer, it is not. Somehow, however, they feel that they are not actually breaking the law because they have found a way to create paperwork.
If you are asking your child to lie about where she lives, you are doing something wrong and you know it. Own that you are a law breaker.
The only LAW it is breaking is your social law, of what is right and wrong. If we are paying DC taxes- we are abiding by the law. And the boundary issues- you all would jump through a million whatever hoops if we went to a city wide lottery. No sense in telling me you wouldn't because you would. The boundary fights/fierceness are throw backs when we tried to keep the black kids away from the white kids. So no, I do not feel forced to honor those at the expense of my kids education.
So you are trying to keep YOUR kids away from black kids.
Nice try but no. If I were trying to keep my kiddo away from minorities I would live where you live, too. Kids don't make schools bad- adults do. What we at getting away from is schools that are flooded with TFA teachers, 25 year old administrators, and crap like extended day. No way am I putting my ES kid into school until 4:30! It's not developmentally appropriate. And once again, you ladies can huff and puff but we are NOT breaking any rules. We have two places we can reside- and we will float into a new one when the time comes. As for folks turning us in when you take your kid to an OOB play date, I'm not to worried about that. We are working class folks. You won't have anything to do with us!
Anonymous
07/12/2014 00:00
Subject: Re:Rent a 2nd place in a better boundary
Anonymous wrote:We are in JKLM in a 3 bd/2ba for $2300. Not the fanciest there ever was, but it works!
We are IB for Eaton (so not even JKLM) in a 2bd, 1 bath 700 sq. feet condo for 2400 a month. When did you buy? I'd kill for that but I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist anymore.
Anonymous
07/11/2014 23:57
Subject: Rent a 2nd place in a better boundary
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No it's not. The crux of the issue is that I'm not sending my kid to a crap school so that a bunch of righteous a@$holes won't think I'm bad. And really- you have never used connections to get a job ect.? That's bullshit.
To me the worst part is the message you are sending to your kid and your values. I am working to make my extremely low performing school better for all kids and, if I fail, I will move to where I can afford to live and send my kid to a good school.
Not that simple if the place you can afford with good schools is a two-hour commute from your work (and some people can't change jobs). I would rather have an extra 3-4 hours a day with my children (that is 15-16 hours a week) and have them think cheating is sometimes ok then see them only on weekends and teach them cheating is always wrong.
The problem is the cost of real estate in this area.
Now this has nothing to do with me (we are in a charter), but you have to admit that "choices" in the DC area are really grim. I moved here thinking I could choose a small house or condo or TH and thereby get good schools and a short commute, but I quickly found out that a three bedroom condo that met that criteria was far beyond what we could afford (and we make a lot!). In a place where tear downs in the only good school districts sell for 700,000, we have to scramble to get what we can any way we can.
Anonymous
07/11/2014 23:47
Subject: Re:Rent a 2nd place in a better boundary
Anonymous wrote:We are in JKLM in a 3 bd/2ba for $2300. Not the fanciest there ever was, but it works!
Our mortgage is $2300, but our IB schools suck. Not sure how to downsize, but we may look into it once our kids are school age.