Anonymous wrote:I remember when TJ first opened. No one quite knew it would be such a big deal. However, that was back when you could pretty much take 30 minutes after school to fill out a UVA or W&M application (longer if you were a bad typist) and be all but assured of acceptance if you had a 3.6, decent test scores (say, 1240 or over--old scale), a couple solid activities, a varsity sport, and a job at the local shopping center. Things got crazy a few years later. I still think that, after CA, VA has the best public colleges. Some good private ones too.

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Anonymous wrote:I remember when TJ first opened. No one quite knew it would be such a big deal. However, that was back when you could pretty much take 30 minutes after school to fill out a UVA or W&M application (longer if you were a bad typist) and be all but assured of acceptance if you had a 3.6, decent test scores (say, 1240 or over--old scale), a couple solid activities, a varsity sport, and a job at the local shopping center. Things got crazy a few years later. I still think that, after CA, VA has the best public colleges. Some good private ones too.

What are the good private ones?

Anonymous wrote:I remember when TJ first opened. No one quite knew it would be such a big deal. However, that was back when you could pretty much take 30 minutes after school to fill out a UVA or W&M application (longer if you were a bad typist) and be all but assured of acceptance if you had a 3.6, decent test scores (say, 1240 or over--old scale), a couple solid activities, a varsity sport, and a job at the local shopping center. Things got crazy a few years later. I still think that, after CA, VA has the best public colleges. Some good private ones too.

Anonymous wrote:He is now head of the sales dept in a fortune 500 company, happily married with kids, an amazing person, and I'm so proud of him!

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Anonymous wrote:The most comparable statistic (even then it is questionable) is Shanghai vs Fairfax County and there Shanghai is higher, by a significant amount. Comparing one magnate school to a whole city or country is ridiculous. Comparing a city to a county is closer to the mark.

Right. However, Shanghai is supposed to be the highest performing school system in China and that it appears only the top students from Shanghai participated in the PISA test. The fcps scores were derived from all different types of students from relatively low performing schools to high performing schools so there is that issue.

Anonymous wrote:The most comparable statistic (even then it is questionable) is Shanghai vs Fairfax County and there Shanghai is higher, by a significant amount. Comparing one magnate school to a whole city or country is ridiculous. Comparing a city to a county is closer to the mark.

Anonymous wrote:The most comparable statistic (even then it is questionable) is Shanghai vs Fairfax County and there Shanghai is higher, by a significant amount. Comparing one magnate school to a whole city or country is ridiculous. Comparing a city to a county is closer to the mark.

Anonymous wrote:The average TJ SAT scores are only in 600s? Including math? Did I read that correctly?

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Precisely. ONE school versus the mean scores across MANY schools.

Exactly. Shanghai is touted as having the highest PISA scores in the world and much, much higher than US scores. I don't think they break down the scores for Shanghai or at least the data is not available. if you have the data of Shanghai schools or of a school that has higher scores than TJ, please post them. I do not know of any. Of all the known scores, TJ has the highest scores, higher than Shanghai scores.

http://www.oecd.org/countries/hongkongchina/46581016.pdf

http://www.shmec.gov.cn/english/list.php?type=Overview&area_id=&article_id=63905

Again -- ONE school (TJ) vs. the mean scores across MANY schools (all schools in Shanghai). It is not a comparison of one school (TJ) to one school (Shanghai High School, as an example).

Shanghai schools (plural) do have the highest PISA scores in the world and much, much higher than US scores.

I guess you want to become "that person who is not so great at reporting facts person" since your sources are articles on educational systems in Hong Kong and Shanghai. Read your own sources. You did not post any scores of any schools that have higher scores than TJ. The initial statement was that TJ's scores are far higher than schools in US and higher than even Shanghai scores which are considered the best in the world. The statement never referred to PISA scores of a particular school in Shanghai.

Your sources do not show the initial statement to be factually incorrect as you had implied. You need better sources or scores. Do not try to mislead people on this thread since they are smarter than that. In addition, you should be able to back up your statement if you are going to imply that a poster posts inaccurate statements regularly and also refrain from doing exactly the thing that you are mocking someone else of doing. You are just repeating yourself and merely repeating something is not an effective rebuttal. Try again by "reporting facts" that show the initial statement to be incorrect.

And your sources do not back up the statement the TJ scores are higher than all Shanghai schools' scores.