Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To the those who are against SAHP: Is it in your mind ok of those of us to stay home for a few years while the kids are little? If I work it would cost more in daycare, house clearer and extended daycare then I would ever be able to make right now.
as is said again and again and again - it isn't about covering daycare. It's about retirement, future earning potentials, 401k contributions, resume gaps, etc.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a man and cannot speak for any women on this forum and their experience, but I can relate my mother's experience.
I recently asked her how old my brother was - he was the youngest of us - was when she went back to work. My mother was an RN and she worked at least part-time until my brother was born. My father was military and later a civilian lawyer.
She said she went back to work full-time when my brother was about 10 and the motivating factor was that a neighbor two doors down was widowed and left with virtually nothing and had to start at the bottom in terms of building up experience and a career.
So, she decided to go back to work full-time to be in the workforce and to be able to provide for herself independent of my father.
My parents were married for 45 years until my father's death, but my mother never ever regretted going back to work.
There is really no reason, especially after the kids reach full-time school age, for SAHM's to stay home, especially if they are educated and can work. Of course, this does not account for parents dealing with SNs or otherwise handicapped children.
Thank you for mansplaining!
How about "both parents still want a parent at home after school" as a reason for someone to still stay home? It amazes me that people are so wed to a paycheck that they think everyone should work even when they don't have to.
So. Does your husband only work the exact hours he needs to survive... or is he so wedded to a paycheck that he works more hours, away from his children, raised by a single mom.
Well, he does not get paid by the hour. He works hard at a job he loves, but is not a workaholic or absentee dad, if that is what you're implying.
To the PP who brought up welfare, I was talking about second, unnecessary paychecks... being wedded to the idea that worth only comes from a paying job, even when you don't need the money.
But he could take a lower paying job that is more flexible and be home more with you and the children... if he really wanted to be with you and the children. The size of his paycheck is unnecessary and you seem wedded to the amount of money he makes so you can maintain your own lifestyle. It is not a working lifestyle but a lifestyle you have become accustom to living. I am not sure why some parents want 1 parent at home when the kids get home, wouldnt there be some value to having the father there sometime and the mother there sometimes and both sometimes.
For us, it was much easier to have 1 high paying job than 2 not so high paying jobs. Ymmv and that is fine.
Easier for you. Guess your husband has no vote.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a man and cannot speak for any women on this forum and their experience, but I can relate my mother's experience.
I recently asked her how old my brother was - he was the youngest of us - was when she went back to work. My mother was an RN and she worked at least part-time until my brother was born. My father was military and later a civilian lawyer.
She said she went back to work full-time when my brother was about 10 and the motivating factor was that a neighbor two doors down was widowed and left with virtually nothing and had to start at the bottom in terms of building up experience and a career.
So, she decided to go back to work full-time to be in the workforce and to be able to provide for herself independent of my father.
My parents were married for 45 years until my father's death, but my mother never ever regretted going back to work.
There is really no reason, especially after the kids reach full-time school age, for SAHM's to stay home, especially if they are educated and can work. Of course, this does not account for parents dealing with SNs or otherwise handicapped children.
Thank you for mansplaining!
How about "both parents still want a parent at home after school" as a reason for someone to still stay home? It amazes me that people are so wed to a paycheck that they think everyone should work even when they don't have to.
So. Does your husband only work the exact hours he needs to survive... or is he so wedded to a paycheck that he works more hours, away from his children, raised by a single mom.
Well, he does not get paid by the hour. He works hard at a job he loves, but is not a workaholic or absentee dad, if that is what you're implying.
To the PP who brought up welfare, I was talking about second, unnecessary paychecks... being wedded to the idea that worth only comes from a paying job, even when you don't need the money.
But he could take a lower paying job that is more flexible and be home more with you and the children... if he really wanted to be with you and the children. The size of his paycheck is unnecessary and you seem wedded to the amount of money he makes so you can maintain your own lifestyle. It is not a working lifestyle but a lifestyle you have become accustom to living. I am not sure why some parents want 1 parent at home when the kids get home, wouldnt there be some value to having the father there sometime and the mother there sometimes and both sometimes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a man and cannot speak for any women on this forum and their experience, but I can relate my mother's experience.
I recently asked her how old my brother was - he was the youngest of us - was when she went back to work. My mother was an RN and she worked at least part-time until my brother was born. My father was military and later a civilian lawyer.
She said she went back to work full-time when my brother was about 10 and the motivating factor was that a neighbor two doors down was widowed and left with virtually nothing and had to start at the bottom in terms of building up experience and a career.
So, she decided to go back to work full-time to be in the workforce and to be able to provide for herself independent of my father.
My parents were married for 45 years until my father's death, but my mother never ever regretted going back to work.
There is really no reason, especially after the kids reach full-time school age, for SAHM's to stay home, especially if they are educated and can work. Of course, this does not account for parents dealing with SNs or otherwise handicapped children.
Thank you for mansplaining!
How about "both parents still want a parent at home after school" as a reason for someone to still stay home? It amazes me that people are so wed to a paycheck that they think everyone should work even when they don't have to.
So. Does your husband only work the exact hours he needs to survive... or is he so wedded to a paycheck that he works more hours, away from his children, raised by a single mom.
Well, he does not get paid by the hour. He works hard at a job he loves, but is not a workaholic or absentee dad, if that is what you're implying.
To the PP who brought up welfare, I was talking about second, unnecessary paychecks... being wedded to the idea that worth only comes from a paying job, even when you don't need the money.
But he could take a lower paying job that is more flexible and be home more with you and the children... if he really wanted to be with you and the children. The size of his paycheck is unnecessary and you seem wedded to the amount of money he makes so you can maintain your own lifestyle. It is not a working lifestyle but a lifestyle you have become accustom to living. I am not sure why some parents want 1 parent at home when the kids get home, wouldnt there be some value to having the father there sometime and the mother there sometimes and both sometimes.
For us, it was much easier to have 1 high paying job than 2 not so high paying jobs. Ymmv and that is fine.
So the answer is you don't worry and it is just plain easier. If shit hits the fan you will deal with it then.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hell no. He should worry about me leaving him. And, I make sure some money dissapears into an account every month.
But, neither of us is worried. I am just prepared.
Me, too. I'm (DH) actually the one with a financial/earning capacity advantage over my DH and I am well aware of how screwed he'd be if I left him. When you have that kind of imbalance in the relationship, I don't see how it could not be a worry unless you were naive. There's no way I would ever feel comfortable being financially dependent on my spouse.
I'm DW. Sorry. This is why you shouldn't DCUM without coffee.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a man and cannot speak for any women on this forum and their experience, but I can relate my mother's experience.
I recently asked her how old my brother was - he was the youngest of us - was when she went back to work. My mother was an RN and she worked at least part-time until my brother was born. My father was military and later a civilian lawyer.
She said she went back to work full-time when my brother was about 10 and the motivating factor was that a neighbor two doors down was widowed and left with virtually nothing and had to start at the bottom in terms of building up experience and a career.
So, she decided to go back to work full-time to be in the workforce and to be able to provide for herself independent of my father.
My parents were married for 45 years until my father's death, but my mother never ever regretted going back to work.
There is really no reason, especially after the kids reach full-time school age, for SAHM's to stay home, especially if they are educated and can work. Of course, this does not account for parents dealing with SNs or otherwise handicapped children.
Thank you for mansplaining!
How about "both parents still want a parent at home after school" as a reason for someone to still stay home? It amazes me that people are so wed to a paycheck that they think everyone should work even when they don't have to.
So. Does your husband only work the exact hours he needs to survive... or is he so wedded to a paycheck that he works more hours, away from his children, raised by a single mom.
Well, he does not get paid by the hour. He works hard at a job he loves, but is not a workaholic or absentee dad, if that is what you're implying.
To the PP who brought up welfare, I was talking about second, unnecessary paychecks... being wedded to the idea that worth only comes from a paying job, even when you don't need the money.
But he could take a lower paying job that is more flexible and be home more with you and the children... if he really wanted to be with you and the children. The size of his paycheck is unnecessary and you seem wedded to the amount of money he makes so you can maintain your own lifestyle. It is not a working lifestyle but a lifestyle you have become accustom to living. I am not sure why some parents want 1 parent at home when the kids get home, wouldnt there be some value to having the father there sometime and the mother there sometimes and both sometimes.
For us, it was much easier to have 1 high paying job than 2 not so high paying jobs. Ymmv and that is fine.
Anonymous wrote:To the those who are against SAHP: Is it in your mind ok of those of us to stay home for a few years while the kids are little? If I work it would cost more in daycare, house clearer and extended daycare then I would ever be able to make right now.
Anonymous wrote:To the those who are against SAHP: Is it in your mind ok of those of us to stay home for a few years while the kids are little? If I work it would cost more in daycare, house clearer and extended daycare then I would ever be able to make right now.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a man and cannot speak for any women on this forum and their experience, but I can relate my mother's experience.
I recently asked her how old my brother was - he was the youngest of us - was when she went back to work. My mother was an RN and she worked at least part-time until my brother was born. My father was military and later a civilian lawyer.
She said she went back to work full-time when my brother was about 10 and the motivating factor was that a neighbor two doors down was widowed and left with virtually nothing and had to start at the bottom in terms of building up experience and a career.
So, she decided to go back to work full-time to be in the workforce and to be able to provide for herself independent of my father.
My parents were married for 45 years until my father's death, but my mother never ever regretted going back to work.
There is really no reason, especially after the kids reach full-time school age, for SAHM's to stay home, especially if they are educated and can work. Of course, this does not account for parents dealing with SNs or otherwise handicapped children.
Thank you for mansplaining!
How about "both parents still want a parent at home after school" as a reason for someone to still stay home? It amazes me that people are so wed to a paycheck that they think everyone should work even when they don't have to.
So. Does your husband only work the exact hours he needs to survive... or is he so wedded to a paycheck that he works more hours, away from his children, raised by a single mom.
Well, he does not get paid by the hour. He works hard at a job he loves, but is not a workaholic or absentee dad, if that is what you're implying.
To the PP who brought up welfare, I was talking about second, unnecessary paychecks... being wedded to the idea that worth only comes from a paying job, even when you don't need the money.
But he could take a lower paying job that is more flexible and be home more with you and the children... if he really wanted to be with you and the children. The size of his paycheck is unnecessary and you seem wedded to the amount of money he makes so you can maintain your own lifestyle. It is not a working lifestyle but a lifestyle you have become accustom to living. I am not sure why some parents want 1 parent at home when the kids get home, wouldnt there be some value to having the father there sometime and the mother there sometimes and both sometimes.
For us, it was much easier to have 1 high paying job than 2 not so high paying jobs. Ymmv and that is fine.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a man and cannot speak for any women on this forum and their experience, but I can relate my mother's experience.
I recently asked her how old my brother was - he was the youngest of us - was when she went back to work. My mother was an RN and she worked at least part-time until my brother was born. My father was military and later a civilian lawyer.
She said she went back to work full-time when my brother was about 10 and the motivating factor was that a neighbor two doors down was widowed and left with virtually nothing and had to start at the bottom in terms of building up experience and a career.
So, she decided to go back to work full-time to be in the workforce and to be able to provide for herself independent of my father.
My parents were married for 45 years until my father's death, but my mother never ever regretted going back to work.
There is really no reason, especially after the kids reach full-time school age, for SAHM's to stay home, especially if they are educated and can work. Of course, this does not account for parents dealing with SNs or otherwise handicapped children.
Thank you for mansplaining!
How about "both parents still want a parent at home after school" as a reason for someone to still stay home? It amazes me that people are so wed to a paycheck that they think everyone should work even when they don't have to.
So. Does your husband only work the exact hours he needs to survive... or is he so wedded to a paycheck that he works more hours, away from his children, raised by a single mom.
Well, he does not get paid by the hour. He works hard at a job he loves, but is not a workaholic or absentee dad, if that is what you're implying.
To the PP who brought up welfare, I was talking about second, unnecessary paychecks... being wedded to the idea that worth only comes from a paying job, even when you don't need the money.
But he could take a lower paying job that is more flexible and be home more with you and the children... if he really wanted to be with you and the children. The size of his paycheck is unnecessary and you seem wedded to the amount of money he makes so you can maintain your own lifestyle. It is not a working lifestyle but a lifestyle you have become accustom to living. I am not sure why some parents want 1 parent at home when the kids get home, wouldnt there be some value to having the father there sometime and the mother there sometimes and both sometimes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a man and cannot speak for any women on this forum and their experience, but I can relate my mother's experience.
I recently asked her how old my brother was - he was the youngest of us - was when she went back to work. My mother was an RN and she worked at least part-time until my brother was born. My father was military and later a civilian lawyer.
She said she went back to work full-time when my brother was about 10 and the motivating factor was that a neighbor two doors down was widowed and left with virtually nothing and had to start at the bottom in terms of building up experience and a career.
So, she decided to go back to work full-time to be in the workforce and to be able to provide for herself independent of my father.
My parents were married for 45 years until my father's death, but my mother never ever regretted going back to work.
There is really no reason, especially after the kids reach full-time school age, for SAHM's to stay home, especially if they are educated and can work. Of course, this does not account for parents dealing with SNs or otherwise handicapped children.
Thank you for mansplaining!
How about "both parents still want a parent at home after school" as a reason for someone to still stay home? It amazes me that people are so wed to a paycheck that they think everyone should work even when they don't have to.
So. Does your husband only work the exact hours he needs to survive... or is he so wedded to a paycheck that he works more hours, away from his children, raised by a single mom.
I think you are totally missing the point. In this case, one parent doesn't WANT to work. And the other one is okay with that. This isn't a value judgment against those who work.
The mansplainer... said it makes sense for the SAHP to go back to work once the children are in school.
The defensive SAHP said that this means this couple is wedded to a paycheck. There is a reason if you want to mitigate risk for a SAHP to at least go back part time in the off chance there is an injury, illness, death or divorce. This is not really about WANTING to work or NOT WANTING to work. My teenager... does not want to work, but he is working. You can't just live off the dole. More than likely if there is an injury/illness, the family with 1 working parent will live off the dole.
"This is not really about WANTING to work or NOT WANTING to work..." Instead, it's about total strangers wanting you to work (no matter what your financial situation is and what you and your spouse have decided).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a man and cannot speak for any women on this forum and their experience, but I can relate my mother's experience.
I recently asked her how old my brother was - he was the youngest of us - was when she went back to work. My mother was an RN and she worked at least part-time until my brother was born. My father was military and later a civilian lawyer.
She said she went back to work full-time when my brother was about 10 and the motivating factor was that a neighbor two doors down was widowed and left with virtually nothing and had to start at the bottom in terms of building up experience and a career.
So, she decided to go back to work full-time to be in the workforce and to be able to provide for herself independent of my father.
My parents were married for 45 years until my father's death, but my mother never ever regretted going back to work.
There is really no reason, especially after the kids reach full-time school age, for SAHM's to stay home, especially if they are educated and can work. Of course, this does not account for parents dealing with SNs or otherwise handicapped children.
Thank you for mansplaining!
How about "both parents still want a parent at home after school" as a reason for someone to still stay home? It amazes me that people are so wed to a paycheck that they think everyone should work even when they don't have to.
So. Does your husband only work the exact hours he needs to survive... or is he so wedded to a paycheck that he works more hours, away from his children, raised by a single mom.
Well, he does not get paid by the hour. He works hard at a job he loves, but is not a workaholic or absentee dad, if that is what you're implying.
To the PP who brought up welfare, I was talking about second, unnecessary paychecks... being wedded to the idea that worth only comes from a paying job, even when you don't need the money.
But he could take a lower paying job that is more flexible and be home more with you and the children... if he really wanted to be with you and the children. The size of his paycheck is unnecessary and you seem wedded to the amount of money he makes so you can maintain your own lifestyle. It is not a working lifestyle but a lifestyle you have become accustom to living. I am not sure why some parents want 1 parent at home when the kids get home, wouldnt there be some value to having the father there sometime and the mother there sometimes and both sometimes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a man and cannot speak for any women on this forum and their experience, but I can relate my mother's experience.
I recently asked her how old my brother was - he was the youngest of us - was when she went back to work. My mother was an RN and she worked at least part-time until my brother was born. My father was military and later a civilian lawyer.
She said she went back to work full-time when my brother was about 10 and the motivating factor was that a neighbor two doors down was widowed and left with virtually nothing and had to start at the bottom in terms of building up experience and a career.
So, she decided to go back to work full-time to be in the workforce and to be able to provide for herself independent of my father.
My parents were married for 45 years until my father's death, but my mother never ever regretted going back to work.
There is really no reason, especially after the kids reach full-time school age, for SAHM's to stay home, especially if they are educated and can work. Of course, this does not account for parents dealing with SNs or otherwise handicapped children.
Thank you for mansplaining!
How about "both parents still want a parent at home after school" as a reason for someone to still stay home? It amazes me that people are so wed to a paycheck that they think everyone should work even when they don't have to.
So. Does your husband only work the exact hours he needs to survive... or is he so wedded to a paycheck that he works more hours, away from his children, raised by a single mom.
Well, he does not get paid by the hour. He works hard at a job he loves, but is not a workaholic or absentee dad, if that is what you're implying.
To the PP who brought up welfare, I was talking about second, unnecessary paychecks... being wedded to the idea that worth only comes from a paying job, even when you don't need the money.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a man and cannot speak for any women on this forum and their experience, but I can relate my mother's experience.
I recently asked her how old my brother was - he was the youngest of us - was when she went back to work. My mother was an RN and she worked at least part-time until my brother was born. My father was military and later a civilian lawyer.
She said she went back to work full-time when my brother was about 10 and the motivating factor was that a neighbor two doors down was widowed and left with virtually nothing and had to start at the bottom in terms of building up experience and a career.
So, she decided to go back to work full-time to be in the workforce and to be able to provide for herself independent of my father.
My parents were married for 45 years until my father's death, but my mother never ever regretted going back to work.
There is really no reason, especially after the kids reach full-time school age, for SAHM's to stay home, especially if they are educated and can work. Of course, this does not account for parents dealing with SNs or otherwise handicapped children.
Thank you for mansplaining!
How about "both parents still want a parent at home after school" as a reason for someone to still stay home? It amazes me that people are so wed to a paycheck that they think everyone should work even when they don't have to.
So. Does your husband only work the exact hours he needs to survive... or is he so wedded to a paycheck that he works more hours, away from his children, raised by a single mom.
I think you are totally missing the point. In this case, one parent doesn't WANT to work. And the other one is okay with that. This isn't a value judgment against those who work.
The mansplainer... said it makes sense for the SAHP to go back to work once the children are in school.
The defensive SAHP said that this means this couple is wedded to a paycheck. There is a reason if you want to mitigate risk for a SAHP to at least go back part time in the off chance there is an injury, illness, death or divorce. This is not really about WANTING to work or NOT WANTING to work. My teenager... does not want to work, but he is working. You can't just live off the dole. More than likely if there is an injury/illness, the family with 1 working parent will live off the dole.