Anonymous
04/22/2014 19:42
Subject: Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
This thread is so hypocritical. No way was there this much righteous indignation when schools are shot up and students killed by assassins. It's always the killers didn't get the help they needed or it's a case of abuse at home or people kill not guns or a myriad of other excuses. Not once did I read that these killers were an indictment if an ENTIRE race of people. Unlike here where posters say why aren't black people outraged and speak out?
Practice what you preach. The families of murdered children would appreciate it.
Practice what you preach. The families of murdered children would appreciate it.
Anonymous
04/22/2014 19:09
Subject: Re:Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
Anonymous wrote:Looks like you took the time to do your homework. A voice of reason.Anonymous wrote:There is so much wrong with OP's position that I don't know where to start.
My research found two other incidents of violence associated with this event -- in 2000 and 2011. The shooting this year happened not at the zoo, but near the zoo, in front of a Starbucks. I recall that three people were murdered in a Starbucks in Georgetown in the late 1997. I also recall that in 1999 a young attorney went to the DuPont Circle Starbucks and was found dead three days later.
So within a similar time period, we have three acts of violence near this zoo event and near DC Starbucks. I don't think we can conclude that Starbucks store attract violence based on this information and I don't think we can conclude that the zoo event is responsible law responsible for attracting violence.
The zoo reported they had approximately 20,000 visitors yesterday.and OP is ready to end a 100 year old event based on the possibility that the shooter and the victim, 2 out of a possible 20.000 people, were in the neighborhood because of the zoo event.
OP also seems to believe that but for Jeff deleting a few posts, the National Zoo would stop holding an event that has happened every year for over 100 years?
the starbucks is directly across the street from the zoo entrance. you make it sound like it was a block away.
Anonymous
04/22/2014 18:24
Subject: Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously OP - if you get your news from DCUM, I'm worried about you.
Agreed. (Np here.). However, as someone relatively new to DC, I had no idea the day after Easter was sometimes a violent day at the zoo. The news didn't report it. I learned about the Calvert bridge shooting on DCUM. A random comment about AA family day made me do a lot of googling. It took a lot of time to figure out what AA Family Day was, it's history (both good and bad), and determine that my family and I should skip the zoo yesterday. We were actually planning to go but thankfully I did some research. But I never would have know it was an unsafe day if I only watched the local news.
Thanks for sharing that perspective as someone new to DC. Do you think you'll go next year? What would you say to friends or relatives who might be in town?
Anonymous
04/22/2014 18:14
Subject: Re:Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
Anonymous wrote:There is so much wrong with OP's position that I don't know where to start.
My research found two other incidents of violence associated with this event -- in 2000 and 2011. The shooting this year happened not at the zoo, but near the zoo, in front of a Starbucks. I recall that three people were murdered in a Starbucks in Georgetown in the late 1997. I also recall that in 1999 a young attorney went to the DuPont Circle Starbucks and was found dead three days later.
So within a similar time period, we have three acts of violence near this zoo event and near DC Starbucks. I don't think we can conclude that Starbucks store attract violence based on this information and I don't think we can conclude that the zoo event is responsible law responsible for attracting violence.
The zoo reported they had approximately 20,000 visitors yesterday.and OP is ready to end a 100 year old event based on the possibility that the shooter and the victim, 2 out of a possible 20.000 people, were in the neighborhood because of the zoo event.
OP also seems to believe that but for Jeff deleting a few posts, the National Zoo would stop holding an event that has happened every year for over 100 years?
Holy false equivalency alert, batman!
I'm far from a right winger, but it's silly that we are all supposed to pretend that A-A Family Day at the zoo isn't exceptionally violent. I am sure all of you folks are planning to show up with your kids in tow next year, right?
Anonymous
04/22/2014 18:03
Subject: Re:Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
Looks like you took the time to do your homework. A voice of reason.Anonymous wrote:There is so much wrong with OP's position that I don't know where to start.
My research found two other incidents of violence associated with this event -- in 2000 and 2011. The shooting this year happened not at the zoo, but near the zoo, in front of a Starbucks. I recall that three people were murdered in a Starbucks in Georgetown in the late 1997. I also recall that in 1999 a young attorney went to the DuPont Circle Starbucks and was found dead three days later.
So within a similar time period, we have three acts of violence near this zoo event and near DC Starbucks. I don't think we can conclude that Starbucks store attract violence based on this information and I don't think we can conclude that the zoo event is responsible law responsible for attracting violence.
The zoo reported they had approximately 20,000 visitors yesterday.and OP is ready to end a 100 year old event based on the possibility that the shooter and the victim, 2 out of a possible 20.000 people, were in the neighborhood because of the zoo event.
OP also seems to believe that but for Jeff deleting a few posts, the National Zoo would stop holding an event that has happened every year for over 100 years?
Anonymous
04/22/2014 17:58
Subject: Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And therein lies the issue. Some are making it sound like there are shootings every year, and that doesn't appear to be the case as noted in several posts though any shooting is bad. I think the moderator is trying to eliminate mis-communication which feeds into some posters justification who want to make this into a race=violence issue.Anonymous wrote:C'mon, folks--
I, too, am puzzled by the moderator's muzzling of comments about the serious pattern of shootings and other gun violence in connection with the annual zoo event yesterday. Whether done out of an abundance of caution or political correctness, I don't know. However, to cast blame on him for future violence because of heavy-handed censorship is both wrong and frankly inflates the importance of this forum.
No one is saying the shootings didn't happen but to infer that it happens every year is, indeed, incorrect. Period.
The police certainly act as if they expect shootings or some other violence each time this event is held especially after the 2000 shooting. They're prepared with assault weaponry and also their presence is quite large even at the start. Yet, this is called a family event.
On the other hand, I guess, there was probably a heavy police presence with exposed assault weaponry at the White House egg roll, too.
And the marine corps marathon, and the army ten miler... Just about ANY big event in DC has lots of cops present.
I've attended street festivals (i.e. Annual Adams Morgan Day, etc.) and there's not even close to the police presence as is on Easter Monday at the Zoo. Nor are they standing around with their hands on the handle of their assault rifles at the start of the event.
Well you have never attended the Marine Corps Marathon. My husband is MPD and it basically AHOD, everybody is expected to work.
The Marine Corps Marathon has well over 25,000 participants, it makes sense that there would be heavy police presence. Why would a large presence of MPD be expected to work Easter Monday at the zoo unless they expected violence.
Anonymous
04/22/2014 17:54
Subject: Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously OP - if you get your news from DCUM, I'm worried about you.
Agreed. (Np here.). However, as someone relatively new to DC, I had no idea the day after Easter was sometimes a violent day at the zoo. The news didn't report it. I learned about the Calvert bridge shooting on DCUM. A random comment about AA family day made me do a lot of googling. It took a lot of time to figure out what AA Family Day was, it's history (both good and bad), and determine that my family and I should skip the zoo yesterday. We were actually planning to go but thankfully I did some research. But I never would have know it was an unsafe day if I only watched the local news.
Our local news has become a political agenda. Nothing more.
True. Ever notice the lack of diversity among the anchors on the Channel 9 WUSA evening news??
Anonymous
04/22/2014 17:48
Subject: Re:Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
There is so much wrong with OP's position that I don't know where to start.
My research found two other incidents of violence associated with this event -- in 2000 and 2011. The shooting this year happened not at the zoo, but near the zoo, in front of a Starbucks. I recall that three people were murdered in a Starbucks in Georgetown in the late 1997. I also recall that in 1999 a young attorney went to the DuPont Circle Starbucks and was found dead three days later.
So within a similar time period, we have three acts of violence near this zoo event and near DC Starbucks. I don't think we can conclude that Starbucks store attract violence based on this information and I don't think we can conclude that the zoo event is responsible law responsible for attracting violence.
The zoo reported they had approximately 20,000 visitors yesterday.and OP is ready to end a 100 year old event based on the possibility that the shooter and the victim, 2 out of a possible 20.000 people, were in the neighborhood because of the zoo event.
OP also seems to believe that but for Jeff deleting a few posts, the National Zoo would stop holding an event that has happened every year for over 100 years?
My research found two other incidents of violence associated with this event -- in 2000 and 2011. The shooting this year happened not at the zoo, but near the zoo, in front of a Starbucks. I recall that three people were murdered in a Starbucks in Georgetown in the late 1997. I also recall that in 1999 a young attorney went to the DuPont Circle Starbucks and was found dead three days later.
So within a similar time period, we have three acts of violence near this zoo event and near DC Starbucks. I don't think we can conclude that Starbucks store attract violence based on this information and I don't think we can conclude that the zoo event is responsible law responsible for attracting violence.
The zoo reported they had approximately 20,000 visitors yesterday.and OP is ready to end a 100 year old event based on the possibility that the shooter and the victim, 2 out of a possible 20.000 people, were in the neighborhood because of the zoo event.
OP also seems to believe that but for Jeff deleting a few posts, the National Zoo would stop holding an event that has happened every year for over 100 years?
Anonymous
04/22/2014 17:44
Subject: Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
Even though racism can save your life be cool and die.
Anonymous
04/22/2014 17:28
Subject: Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
DC area blacks should take some pointers from the whites at the meeting tomorrow evening. You'll see how they'll take back their neighborhood, in no uncertain terms. Especially on Easter Monday when they have out of town relatives and friends wanting to visit the Zoo.
Anonymous
04/22/2014 17:24
Subject: Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seriously OP - if you get your news from DCUM, I'm worried about you.
Agreed. (Np here.). However, as someone relatively new to DC, I had no idea the day after Easter was sometimes a violent day at the zoo. The news didn't report it. I learned about the Calvert bridge shooting on DCUM. A random comment about AA family day made me do a lot of googling. It took a lot of time to figure out what AA Family Day was, it's history (both good and bad), and determine that my family and I should skip the zoo yesterday. We were actually planning to go but thankfully I did some research. But I never would have know it was an unsafe day if I only watched the local news.
Our local news has become a political agenda. Nothing more.
Anonymous
04/22/2014 17:10
Subject: Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:everybody should know never go to the zoo the day after easter. sad but true
I'm being naive, I do realize, but what am I missing? Why is that such a hot-button day?
It is African American family day and, somehow, that leads to violence every year, either mobs or stabbings or, this year, shootings. It would be quite useful to investigate why, instead of ignoring these facts.
Yes. And let's hear from the AA community about how outraged they are that a few hoodlums have ruined their family event, what they plan to do about it, and how they intend to take it back as a safe family day.
+1
Anonymous
04/22/2014 17:02
Subject: Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
Anonymous wrote:Seriously OP - if you get your news from DCUM, I'm worried about you.
Agreed. (Np here.). However, as someone relatively new to DC, I had no idea the day after Easter was sometimes a violent day at the zoo. The news didn't report it. I learned about the Calvert bridge shooting on DCUM. A random comment about AA family day made me do a lot of googling. It took a lot of time to figure out what AA Family Day was, it's history (both good and bad), and determine that my family and I should skip the zoo yesterday. We were actually planning to go but thankfully I did some research. But I never would have know it was an unsafe day if I only watched the local news.
Anonymous
04/22/2014 16:57
Subject: Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:everybody should know never go to the zoo the day after easter. sad but true
I'm being naive, I do realize, but what am I missing? Why is that such a hot-button day?
It is African American family day and, somehow, that leads to violence every year, either mobs or stabbings or, this year, shootings. It would be quite useful to investigate why, instead of ignoring these facts.
Yes. And let's hear from the AA community about how outraged they are that a few hoodlums have ruined their family event, what they plan to do about it, and how they intend to take it back as a safe family day.
jsteele
04/22/2014 16:36
Subject: Re:Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When one makes money through advertising, advertisers do take note, especially if enough complaints come through. That would be the risk
I'm no genius with this interweb money bitcoin stuff but I'm pretty sure the deciding factor is number of hits on a site and number of redirects. Bitching about a code of conduct won't impact it as much as avoiding a site.
Agreed, but if the moderator shows a bias when moderating, especially when it is racial, advertisers pay attention.
Maybe you can help me out. For weeks I've been getting an advertisement featuring Allen West. I'm kind of sick of it. Maybe you can contact him and let him know that I am discriminating against white people who want to talk about black people and that he should start boycotting this site. Thanks a million.