Anonymous
Post 04/21/2014 23:32     Subject: George mason is more selective than UMD and UVA
My firm has hired a few GMU grads. They are fairly bright and hard-working. Generally pleasant. I'm happy to work with them. But none are the rock stars that we have that come from stronger schools.

Oh wait - maybe I'm confusing GMU & JMU again. The one out on 81? The other one is the commuter school in Fairfax?
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2014 22:28     Subject: George mason is more selective than UMD and UVA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience


Keep telling yourself that ..


Exactly!

You can tell which people on this board feel seethe with jealousy at the ivy degrees their colleges have.

They know that with these degrees comes a type of experience, exposure and intellect they will never see.



Oh my... you do take yourself seriously, don't you? You're the kind of person who makes people roll their eyes and turn away when they see you coming. What a bore.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2014 22:26     Subject: George mason is more selective than UMD and UVA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am sure Ted Kacyznski loves to point out he went to Harvard.

Why wouldn't he be? The ivies are a badge of honor .


This is hilarious.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2014 21:11     Subject: George mason is more selective than UMD and UVA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience


1. I beg to differ.

2. A GMU degree means even less after any years of experience.


Very persuasive. Maybe you could add a third reason. #3. Because I said so.


Honestly, most people silently (politely) feel sorry for people when they say they went to Mason or ODU or something similar.


Wow. So glad I don't know you.


Who are most people? The crowd who run silent auctions at St. Albans?

I'm a double Ivy, and it was fine for me, but GMU graduates are typically hard-working and smart, and exposure to Harvard final clubs, the Whiffenpoofs, or Princeton eating clubs as an undergraduate isn't necessarily one bit more enriching than being around students from dozens of different countries, as you'd now find at GMU. I'm not saying it's more or less selective in terms of admissions than any other particular school, although I don't think it really matters that much in the long run.


I don't understand this 'GMU has international students!!!!' sentiment. Sure, they do, but the Ivies have just as many, if not more...you'll be around students 'from dozens of different countries' at Harvard, too..


At the undergraduate level, I think GMU has a higher percentage of international kids and children of immigrants than the Ivies. It seemed to me when I was at Ivies that most of the international students were in the graduate and professional schools and didn't have much interaction with undergrads.

The broader point, though, really is simply that GMU is a cosmopolitan place these days. It's not a slam dunk to get admitted there, and students are likely to have a broader range of interactions than typically might be expected at a school that had a reputation of a regional school until fairly recently. And the kids I've hired out of GMU schools were bright and practical.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2014 18:31     Subject: George mason is more selective than UMD and UVA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience


1. I beg to differ.

2. A GMU degree means even less after any years of experience.


Very persuasive. Maybe you could add a third reason. #3. Because I said so.



Get over yourself. George Mason is fine but it is at best a mid tier state school.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2014 18:29     Subject: George mason is more selective than UMD and UVA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience


1. I beg to differ.

2. A GMU degree means even less after any years of experience.


Very persuasive. Maybe you could add a third reason. #3. Because I said so.


Honestly, most people silently (politely) feel sorry for people when they say they went to Mason or ODU or something similar.


Wow. So glad I don't know you.


Who are most people? The crowd who run silent auctions at St. Albans?

I'm a double Ivy, and it was fine for me, but GMU graduates are typically hard-working and smart, and exposure to Harvard final clubs, the Whiffenpoofs, or Princeton eating clubs as an undergraduate isn't necessarily one bit more enriching than being around students from dozens of different countries, as you'd now find at GMU. I'm not saying it's more or less selective in terms of admissions than any other particular school, although I don't think it really matters that much in the long run.


I think it is funny that you think the international crowd at third tier state schools is equivalent to those at others.


You seem to have some reading comprehension issues.


You seem to have issues with relevance.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2014 18:29     Subject: George mason is more selective than UMD and UVA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience


Keep telling yourself that ..


Exactly!

You can tell which people on this board feel seethe with jealousy at the ivy degrees their colleges have.

They know that with these degrees comes a type of experience, exposure and intellect they will never see.

Anonymous
Post 04/21/2014 18:28     Subject: George mason is more selective than UMD and UVA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience


1. I beg to differ.

2. A GMU degree means even less after any years of experience.


Very persuasive. Maybe you could add a third reason. #3. Because I said so.


Honestly, most people silently (politely) feel sorry for people when they say they went to Mason or ODU or something similar.


I know that's how it seems now, little whippersnapper, but when you grow up it just won't be so hard.


No... You'll resign yourself to getting fat, having a big neck, being bald. And hoping your kid does better than Mason.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2014 18:26     Subject: George mason is more selective than UMD and UVA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience


1. I beg to differ.

2. A GMU degree means even less after any years of experience.


Very persuasive. Maybe you could add a third reason. #3. Because I said so.


Honestly, most people silently (politely) feel sorry for people when they say they went to Mason or ODU or something similar.


Yes people are snobs. But schools like Mason and ODU have their place. A college degree is worth something.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2014 18:25     Subject: George mason is more selective than UMD and UVA
Anonymous wrote:Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience


Keep telling yourself that ..
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2014 18:24     Subject: George mason is more selective than UMD and UVA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience


1. I beg to differ.

2. A GMU degree means even less after any years of experience.


Very persuasive. Maybe you could add a third reason. #3. Because I said so.


Honestly, most people silently (politely) feel sorry for people when they say they went to Mason or ODU or something similar.


Wow. So glad I don't know you.


Who are most people? The crowd who run silent auctions at St. Albans?

I'm a double Ivy, and it was fine for me, but GMU graduates are typically hard-working and smart, and exposure to Harvard final clubs, the Whiffenpoofs, or Princeton eating clubs as an undergraduate isn't necessarily one bit more enriching than being around students from dozens of different countries, as you'd now find at GMU. I'm not saying it's more or less selective in terms of admissions than any other particular school, although I don't think it really matters that much in the long run.


I don't understand this 'GMU has international students!!!!' sentiment. Sure, they do, but the Ivies have just as many, if not more...you'll be around students 'from dozens of different countries' at Harvard, too..


A lot smarter too...
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2014 18:24     Subject: George mason is more selective than UMD and UVA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous[b wrote:]Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience[/b]


Actually, I agree with this. There was a study that was done a few years back that compared the earnings of Ivy graduates with State U. graduates working in the same fields that found very little, if any difference, in the impact of where you went to school on the overall trajectory of your career and your earning over your lifetime. It did make a difference for students who were black or Hispanic or who were first generation college graduates. What matters is what you do in the workforce once you are out there. What matters is can you perform and not what degree do you have. A link to a NYT article on the study, which also contains a link to the study itself, is here: http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/21/revisiting-the-value-of-elite-colleges/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0


There are State Us and the. There are schools like Mason which are basically continuing Ed for working adults. Like strayer.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2014 17:18     Subject: George mason is more selective than UMD and UVA
Anonymous wrote:I am sure Ted Kacyznski loves to point out he went to Harvard.

Why wouldn't he be? The ivies are a badge of honor .
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2014 17:14     Subject: George mason is more selective than UMD and UVA
I am sure Ted Kacyznski loves to point out he went to Harvard.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2014 15:55     Subject: George mason is more selective than UMD and UVA
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ivy doesn't mean much after 10 years of experience


1. I beg to differ.

2. A GMU degree means even less after any years of experience.


Very persuasive. Maybe you could add a third reason. #3. Because I said so.


Honestly, most people silently (politely) feel sorry for people when they say they went to Mason or ODU or something similar.


Wow. So glad I don't know you.


Who are most people? The crowd who run silent auctions at St. Albans?

I'm a double Ivy, and it was fine for me, but GMU graduates are typically hard-working and smart, and exposure to Harvard final clubs, the Whiffenpoofs, or Princeton eating clubs as an undergraduate isn't necessarily one bit more enriching than being around students from dozens of different countries, as you'd now find at GMU. I'm not saying it's more or less selective in terms of admissions than any other particular school, although I don't think it really matters that much in the long run.


I don't understand this 'GMU has international students!!!!' sentiment. Sure, they do, but the Ivies have just as many, if not more...you'll be around students 'from dozens of different countries' at Harvard, too..