Anonymous
Post 12/10/2013 13:46     Subject: I feel defeated by the crime in Capitol Hill. Pl recommend a new neighborhood.
Man, the ratio of useful advice to posturing in this thread is ridiculous! OP, I think the Takoma Park and Silver Spring suggestions are good ones. In your shoes, I'd find the Annapolis suggestion tempting because it is a charming town, though I think how good the commute is varies neighborhood by neighborhood. You might also have a look at Severna Park (I think that's where your partner works?) for the same reason. It's got some of the strongest schools in the county, I think, and some very pretty homes.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2013 00:14     Subject: I feel defeated by the crime in Capitol Hill. Pl recommend a new neighborhood.
Anonymous wrote:Certainly I've assumed that some people don't report crime in some neighborhoods (which is why I'm still careful in the kid's neighborhood) but neither you nor I know *how* often that happens. I start out looking at the actual crime statistics for a neighborhood which is something very few people on this thread are actually doing.


check the gunshot statistics for DC, it was in a WaPo article about the detector system a few weeks back, but note that the detectors are not evenly distributed throughout the city. Still it gives you an idea.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2013 16:50     Subject: I feel defeated by the crime in Capitol Hill. Pl recommend a new neighborhood.
Anonymous wrote:Not always. Some people go out looking for people to rob. And they aren't always poor kids, sometimes it's folks just caught up with a bad crowd. I've lived in the straight up ghetto before and never had anything to happen to me. What's the point in robbing another broke person?[/quote

Exactly. As the Hill gentrifies and people with money move in, the local thugs and those living just across the river don't have as far to go for a quick B&E or robbery or worse.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2013 15:30     Subject: I feel defeated by the crime in Capitol Hill. Pl recommend a new neighborhood.
Anonymous wrote:Everyone who has even a data point of statistical training knows that statistics are only as accurate at the counting. In fact we have been told not to report stupid "crimes" in our neighborhood like someone rifling through a glove compartment in a car but taking nothing because it makes the neighborhood look bad to see heightened crime stats.
Ok, so why even bother then? Obviously, people on DCUM who have never set foot east of the river know so much more about what's going there.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2013 15:30     Subject: I feel defeated by the crime in Capitol Hill. Pl recommend a new neighborhood.
Anonymous wrote:A lot of blacks in silver spring , fewer in tp but still quite a bit.


Gays too, apparently. Shudder*





(*denotes sarcasm)
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2013 15:26     Subject: I feel defeated by the crime in Capitol Hill. Pl recommend a new neighborhood.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People get mugged in "nice" areas like the Hill because criminals know that people there have cash/iphones/etc in their pockets. I live in a truly terrible neighborhood, and NO ONE gets mugged. Shot, yes, but not mugged.


Weel then, THAT makes me want to move there.


But the shootings aren't random. People are shooting people they know. In 10 years in my neighborhood, I've never known any law abiding citizen to be a victim of crime. That's why people can feel safe in a 'bad' neighborhood. That being said - obviously if I had the $$ to move somewhere else, I would. I don't have any other options at the moment. But the crime isn't affecting us directly, thank god.
Yes, the crime situation is a lot more complicated than people realize. I tutor a kid who lives in a public housing project on Alabama Avenue. When I check the weekly crime report in the WaPo's Local Living section, I check to see what crime is happening in her neighborhood as well as mine. Never read about robberies on her section of Alabama. It's safer for me to drop her off at her house after tutoring than it is for me to go out to dinner in Adams Morgan.


Do you have one iota of streetsmarts?

People who live on Alabama Avenue are NOT going to call the cops (their enemy) for robberies and such. They are used to this as part of daily life. But people in Georgetown would. This is why on a given day crime can seem worse in a "good" neighborhood. It has nothing to do with actual crime, it's about whether the population there will report it.
Oh FFS, of course, I've taken that into consideration. But the fact is that you would be one more person deciding you know the level of crime in a neighborhood based on how scary the residents look. Certainly I've assumed that some people don't report crime in some neighborhoods (which is why I'm still careful in the kid's neighborhood) but neither you nor I know *how* often that happens. I start out looking at the actual crime statistics for a neighborhood which is something very few people on this thread are actually doing.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2013 14:59     Subject: I feel defeated by the crime in Capitol Hill. Pl recommend a new neighborhood.
Everyone who has even a data point of statistical training knows that statistics are only as accurate at the counting. In fact we have been told not to report stupid "crimes" in our neighborhood like someone rifling through a glove compartment in a car but taking nothing because it makes the neighborhood look bad to see heightened crime stats.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2013 12:09     Subject: I feel defeated by the crime in Capitol Hill. Pl recommend a new neighborhood.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People get mugged in "nice" areas like the Hill because criminals know that people there have cash/iphones/etc in their pockets. I live in a truly terrible neighborhood, and NO ONE gets mugged. Shot, yes, but not mugged.


Weel then, THAT makes me want to move there.


But the shootings aren't random. People are shooting people they know. In 10 years in my neighborhood, I've never known any law abiding citizen to be a victim of crime. That's why people can feel safe in a 'bad' neighborhood. That being said - obviously if I had the $$ to move somewhere else, I would. I don't have any other options at the moment. But the crime isn't affecting us directly, thank god.
Yes, the crime situation is a lot more complicated than people realize. I tutor a kid who lives in a public housing project on Alabama Avenue. When I check the weekly crime report in the WaPo's Local Living section, I check to see what crime is happening in her neighborhood as well as mine. Never read about robberies on her section of Alabama. It's safer for me to drop her off at her house after tutoring than it is for me to go out to dinner in Adams Morgan.[/quote]

Do you have one iota of streetsmarts?

People who live on Alabama Avenue are NOT going to call the cops (their enemy) for robberies and such. They are used to this as part of daily life. But people in Georgetown would. This is why on a given day crime can seem worse in a "good" neighborhood. It has nothing to do with actual crime, it's about whether the population there will report it.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2013 22:54     Subject: I feel defeated by the crime in Capitol Hill. Pl recommend a new neighborhood.
Takoma Park has a Busboy & Poets coming too.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2013 22:07     Subject: I feel defeated by the crime in Capitol Hill. Pl recommend a new neighborhood.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do families live in downtown silver spring? Is the public elemtary school good?


Silver spring from 4 corners to the DC line is comprised of numerous amity friendly neighborhoods with strong elem schools. Woodlawn, which feed from the Woodside neighborhoods, is especially well reputed.


Woodlin, actually, but PP is right.

I know a lot of families who live in downtown SS. We live in Four Corners, which is just a couple of miles from downtown. There are TONS of families here and the ES for our neighborhoof, Forest Glen, has a great reputation. We love it here.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2013 21:10     Subject: I feel defeated by the crime in Capitol Hill. Pl recommend a new neighborhood.
Anonymous wrote:Do families live in downtown silver spring? Is the public elemtary school good?


Silver spring from 4 corners to the DC line is comprised of numerous amity friendly neighborhoods with strong elem schools. Woodlawn, which feed from the Woodside neighborhoods, is especially well reputed.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2013 20:24     Subject: I feel defeated by the crime in Capitol Hill. Pl recommend a new neighborhood.
Anonymous wrote:A lot of blacks in silver spring , fewer in tp but still quite a bit.


Do please go away.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2013 20:18     Subject: I feel defeated by the crime in Capitol Hill. Pl recommend a new neighborhood.
A lot of blacks in silver spring , fewer in tp but still quite a bit.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2013 15:04     Subject: I feel defeated by the crime in Capitol Hill. Pl recommend a new neighborhood.
Do families live in downtown silver spring? Is the public elemtary school good?
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2013 09:25     Subject: I feel defeated by the crime in Capitol Hill. Pl recommend a new neighborhood.
Silver Spring! MoCo schools, liberal vibe, extremely gay friendly, diversity, lots of cute houses for reasonable prices, good publi transportation and access to highways, revitalizing downtown with many good restaurants, ethnic cuisine, the movie theater ...

Need I say more?

Look at neighborhoods around Forest Glen metro and Holy Cross Hospital, Woodmoor, Dale Drive, North Four Corners.