Anonymous
12/13/2013 13:17
Subject: test-in dcps middle school?
Anonymous wrote:I think that proposal may end up being self-defeating.
The top kids from ward "A" might only perform as well as the middle-of-the-pack kids from ward "B". And consequently, some of the less-prepared kids from ward "A" will struggle and suffer, and some of the kids from ward "B" might not be sufficiently challenged...
Wards "A" and "B," how sensitive. The poster of the proposal threw out 25 from each ward. I'll bet my Bar Mitzvah money the smartest 25 kids in "Ward A" are not performing at middle of the pack "Ward B" level, but much higher than that. A small enough school can provide the extra attention a student might need, anyway.
Anonymous
12/13/2013 11:55
Subject: test-in dcps middle school?
I think that proposal may end up being self-defeating.
The top kids from ward "A" might only perform as well as the middle-of-the-pack kids from ward "B". And consequently, some of the less-prepared kids from ward "A" will struggle and suffer, and some of the kids from ward "B" might not be sufficiently challenged...
The top kids from ward "A" might only perform as well as the middle-of-the-pack kids from ward "B". And consequently, some of the less-prepared kids from ward "A" will struggle and suffer, and some of the kids from ward "B" might not be sufficiently challenged...
Anonymous
12/13/2013 11:53
Subject: Re:test-in dcps middle school?
It's called "test prep." Wealthy white parents will prep their students for the test; disadvantaged kids won't get that.
Wealthy black parents won't? Really though, it's more complicated than that. Disadvantaged kids are simply less likely to get the basic education they need to do well on the test. NY's Stuyvesant high school has been mentioned here already - its student body is 40% "FARMs" eligible, hardly an indicator of wealth.
Anonymous
12/13/2013 11:16
Subject: test-in dcps middle school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From those figures on the NYC test-in experience, it goes to show that AAs have absolutely nothing to fear or lose from test-in schools and in fact may benefit greatly from them.
Ha ha - but the NYC specialized schools all use the same test, the SHSAT - what specifically in the SHSAT is the race-based barrier that trips students up?
NP. Nothing other then they are not in the top 3% of test takers which is what is required for admission. Admission is strictly test score based, no interview, recommendations, grades, etc.
Whenever something like this happens, the automatic assumption of some is that there is racial bias in the questions. So tell us, wouldn't there need to be some kind of universal secret non-AA extracurricular enrichment happening outside of school, which teaches the non-AAs how to decipher the code and answer those magic questions correctly? Just how does this grand conspiracy work, EXACTLY?
How do the allegations of bias hold water?
*crickets chirping*
It's called "test prep." Wealthy white parents will prep their students for the test; disadvantaged kids won't get that.
Anonymous
12/13/2013 11:02
Subject: test-in dcps middle school?
The top of the schools idea is the University of Texas admissions practice. Top of the wards seems more likely to provide a strong student body.