Anonymous wrote:People saying that you need to accept dogs pooping on your lawn as part of living in a neighborhood are crazy. I live in Del Ray, the houses are not far apart at all, lots of people have dogs, and no dogs have ever, ever pooped on my lawn. I've never observed any owner picking dog poop off of my lawn. Because the vast majority of owners are respectful. By all means, take your dog for a walk - they can poop on the sidewalk and you can pick it up, they can poop at a dog park or city park and you can pick it up. You have a lot of options besides my lawn.
What an asinine statement. You bitch and complain about hearing noise in your apartment but you chose to live there and knew what you were getting into. You complain to yourselves and your husband grumbles on the weekends. How childish is that?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's not that the dog's needs come before yours. It's that you don't live in a bubble, so you've got to deal with the normal inconveniences of the place where you live. Dogs being around, acting like dogs, are one of those inconveniences, I'm guessing, based on the description of your neighborhood.
Here's a comparison: I live on a busy street with lots of bars. My husband and I are old fogeys who go to bed around 11. On weekends, we can hear the youngsters yelling "woo woo" till 2 or 3 in the morning as we're in bed. There is a damn salsa band that plays at the bar across the street from us that is loud every single Friday and Sat night. These things are annoying. But we moved to a place where these are the preexisting conditions - we can't very well expect that the neighborhood is going to change, just because we're irritated.
There are things that can bug you, sure, but if they are a normal part of life in the place where you choose to live, I don't think that you get to complain too much.
Are the youngsters or salsa band partying on your lawn or property?
I don't care what dogs or their owners do on their own property or space, or even public space, but not controlling their dog enough to avoid interference with their property, is no one's responsibility but the owner.
The noise affects us. So in that sense, yes, they are partying in our apartment. I'm sure you understand that. (And we live in the city, so we don't have a yard.)
We also have a realistic sense of what it means to live in a crowded place. And we don't have an overly developed sense of entitlement about how others should comport themselves. We complain to ourselves. My husband grumbles every single weekend. That's life; it's not always 100% the way you want it, when you don't have control over the whole kingdom.
Again, to the homicidal maniac who is considering killing people's pets because their cleaned-up poop is SUCH an problem: consult a lawyer before moving forward. I think you will be advised not to go forward with your criminal plan.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's not that the dog's needs come before yours. It's that you don't live in a bubble, so you've got to deal with the normal inconveniences of the place where you live. Dogs being around, acting like dogs, are one of those inconveniences, I'm guessing, based on the description of your neighborhood.
Here's a comparison: I live on a busy street with lots of bars. My husband and I are old fogeys who go to bed around 11. On weekends, we can hear the youngsters yelling "woo woo" till 2 or 3 in the morning as we're in bed. There is a damn salsa band that plays at the bar across the street from us that is loud every single Friday and Sat night. These things are annoying. But we moved to a place where these are the preexisting conditions - we can't very well expect that the neighborhood is going to change, just because we're irritated.
There are things that can bug you, sure, but if they are a normal part of life in the place where you choose to live, I don't think that you get to complain too much.
Are the youngsters or salsa band partying on your lawn or property?
I don't care what dogs or their owners do on their own property or space, or even public space, but not controlling their dog enough to avoid interference with their property, is no one's responsibility but the owner.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's not that the dog's needs come before yours. It's that you don't live in a bubble, so you've got to deal with the normal inconveniences of the place where you live. Dogs being around, acting like dogs, are one of those inconveniences, I'm guessing, based on the description of your neighborhood.
Here's a comparison: I live on a busy street with lots of bars. My husband and I are old fogeys who go to bed around 11. On weekends, we can hear the youngsters yelling "woo woo" till 2 or 3 in the morning as we're in bed. There is a damn salsa band that plays at the bar across the street from us that is loud every single Friday and Sat night. These things are annoying. But we moved to a place where these are the preexisting conditions - we can't very well expect that the neighborhood is going to change, just because we're irritated.
There are things that can bug you, sure, but if they are a normal part of life in the place where you choose to live, I don't think that you get to complain too much.
Are the youngsters or salsa band partying on your lawn or property?
I don't care what dogs or their owners do on their own property or space, or even public space, but not controlling their dog enough to avoid interference with their property, is no one's responsibility but the owner.
PP again. We were having a problem with dogs urinating on our mailbox post. It got so bad that the stench was awful and flies were around our box. So, we did treat the area around the mailbox with repellent. No more problems nor were we going to relocate our box.Anonymous wrote:PP here and not the poster who suggested poison. The feces and urine kill the grass and flowers.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Huh??!! I should inconvenience myself by selling my home and moving elsewhere because the dogs needs come before mine?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What I don't understand is why these dog people don't just have their dogs poop in their own yards--why do they deliberately take them out to poop on someone else's property? It's gross even if they try to pick it up.
I am going to be generous here and assume that you've just never had a dog, so you don't understand what's involved. Responsible dog owners don't just let their dogs out into the yard to pee and poop. Responsible dog owners take their dogs for walks - because dogs need exercise beyond just being cooped up in a yard. It's on those walks that dogs pee and poop. (This is even assuming that the owner has a yard.)
There probably are some dogs that have precision training as to where they are going to pee and poop. I don't know any of those dogs. (No, I take it back - I know one of those dogs.) Responsible owners do what they can to make sure their neighbors are not inconvenienced by dogs. People who put up signs asking for dogs not to be "curbed" on their lawns - we try to respect those signs by leading the dog away from those lawns. But for the most part, dogs pee and poop where they like, and you pick up the poop. That is life in a city. If you don't like it, put up a sign. If you still don't like it, and it bothers you enough that you are considering poisoning your neighbors' pets (as I saw one monster of a PP suggested), then there are lots of places where you can get away from the trouble of having neighbors - it would probably be great to move to one of them.![]()
What are your needs when it comes to responsible dog owners cleaning up after their dogs? I fail to see how this affects you at all. As has been pointed out many times previously, you have no way to stop wild animals from using your yard as a toilet, and no one cleans up after them.
My neighborhood has no sidewalks. The closest public park is one mile away, and parents don't want us walking our dogs in there at all. So, yes, my dog might poop on the edge of your yard. No, not several feet off the curb, but within one foot of the curb. Frankly, since our County (Arlington) considers that public right of way, and can choose at any time to put a sidewalk there, I don't consider that individual property. I always clean up after my dog. Always. I fail to see that this is so heinous that you are considering ways to kill my dog.
What I would suggest is using the baking powder or another non-toxic repellent as suggested by another poster but maybe starting two feet in from the grass line/edge continuing inward towards the door of your property. That way you can make sure that the dog and its owner adhere to that rule AND they pick up the dogs feces.
And no matter how you slice it, nobody but nobody likes feces on their lawn, doorstep. Remnants draw flies and other critters seeking territorial rights. Nobody is saying dogs and people shouldn't co-exist but just as you would expect me to have self-control and not blast my music and cut across your yard as a short-cut, I expect the same respect in turn from you and your dog.
Anonymous wrote:Ge a bunch of moth balls, crunch them up some and spread them across your lawn and where the dog craps. The dog will not go up so close to the house because it will burn their nose.
ye si am a dog owner and our vet suggested this method to keep the dog from ruining other things
Anonymous wrote:It's not really a matter of "respect" or not. As long as the owner cleans it up, I don't really see what the issue is here.
That said, you can try talking with the owner(s), if it's really bothering you. Try to stay calm while you're doing it, I'd recommend (the people who become unhinged about dogs acting like dogs are kind of scary). If you feel that strongly, hopefully folks will do their best to direct their dogs away from your grass.
Or try putting up a fence if you want a physical barrier that'll keep dogs off your lawn.
PP here and not the poster who suggested poison. The feces and urine kill the grass and flowers.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Huh??!! I should inconvenience myself by selling my home and moving elsewhere because the dogs needs come before mine?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What I don't understand is why these dog people don't just have their dogs poop in their own yards--why do they deliberately take them out to poop on someone else's property? It's gross even if they try to pick it up.
I am going to be generous here and assume that you've just never had a dog, so you don't understand what's involved. Responsible dog owners don't just let their dogs out into the yard to pee and poop. Responsible dog owners take their dogs for walks - because dogs need exercise beyond just being cooped up in a yard. It's on those walks that dogs pee and poop. (This is even assuming that the owner has a yard.)
There probably are some dogs that have precision training as to where they are going to pee and poop. I don't know any of those dogs. (No, I take it back - I know one of those dogs.) Responsible owners do what they can to make sure their neighbors are not inconvenienced by dogs. People who put up signs asking for dogs not to be "curbed" on their lawns - we try to respect those signs by leading the dog away from those lawns. But for the most part, dogs pee and poop where they like, and you pick up the poop. That is life in a city. If you don't like it, put up a sign. If you still don't like it, and it bothers you enough that you are considering poisoning your neighbors' pets (as I saw one monster of a PP suggested), then there are lots of places where you can get away from the trouble of having neighbors - it would probably be great to move to one of them.![]()
What are your needs when it comes to responsible dog owners cleaning up after their dogs? I fail to see how this affects you at all. As has been pointed out many times previously, you have no way to stop wild animals from using your yard as a toilet, and no one cleans up after them.
My neighborhood has no sidewalks. The closest public park is one mile away, and parents don't want us walking our dogs in there at all. So, yes, my dog might poop on the edge of your yard. No, not several feet off the curb, but within one foot of the curb. Frankly, since our County (Arlington) considers that public right of way, and can choose at any time to put a sidewalk there, I don't consider that individual property. I always clean up after my dog. Always. I fail to see that this is so heinous that you are considering ways to kill my dog.
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Lord!! I am NOT personalizing this. and this is why I asked. I have never owned a dog, so I have no idea what dog etiquette is.
SORRY I ASKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ge a bunch of moth balls, crunch them up some and spread them across your lawn and where the dog craps. The dog will not go up so close to the house because it will burn their nose.
ye si am a dog owner and our vet suggested this method to keep the dog from ruining other things
They are highly carcinogenic and difficult to find because of this. Find a less toxic method.