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Anonymous wrote:"Race aside, it clearly is a violent act involving children."

There are instances of violence involving children every day. Would you like the President to comment on all of them? The President commented on the Trayvon Martin killing not because it was violence involving youth, but because it was a national story that proved very divisive.

Well this would be too if more people had heard about it.

Wrong. They beat up a snitch. Stop trying to make this bigger than what it is (which is still pretty terrible).

IMO, what OP is saying is that had the races been reversed, this video would be playing on the news every night and all 3 of those teenagers would be facing a major trial.

But there is no evidence of that. And the video IS playing on the news. How the hell do you think everyone here knows about it? CNN, supposedly the liberal media bastion, has covered it. What more do you want? Just because not everyone is constructing the same narrative you seek doesn't mean they're doing it wrong.

I could just as easily say that if the races had been reversed, no one would even know it happened. If if's and but's were candy and nuts...

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Anonymous wrote:"Race aside, it clearly is a violent act involving children."

There are instances of violence involving children every day. Would you like the President to comment on all of them? The President commented on the Trayvon Martin killing not because it was violence involving youth, but because it was a national story that proved very divisive.

Please, he contributed to the divisiveness. He didn't just comment.

How, exactly? Because he made a statement of fact ("If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon") that was intended to connect with and demonstrate empathy for the family of a dead teenager? Where ever you came down on Zimmerman's actions, surely we can agree that the family deserved our sympathy, yes? Or was even offering that divisive, part of the "culture war"?

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Anonymous wrote:"Race aside, it clearly is a violent act involving children."

There are instances of violence involving children every day. Would you like the President to comment on all of them? The President commented on the Trayvon Martin killing not because it was violence involving youth, but because it was a national story that proved very divisive.

Well this would be too if more people had heard about it.

This is the stupidity of the FNC-cultivated bubble. Rather than using their pulpit to tell the news, they use it to talk about the news. How often does FNC (you know, the most watched cable news channel) and other members of the conservative media industrial complex (4 of the top 9 radio shows) bitch about how the media isn't covering something... ignoring that they are the media and they are opting to cover the coverage instead of actually cover the story?

It is self-fulfilling, woe-is-me, self-victimization. "Wahhh... no one listens to us... it's bias... it's a conspiracy." No... no one listens to you because every time you are given a forum, you fill it with whining instead of actual substance.

Anonymous wrote:"Race aside, it clearly is a violent act involving children."

There are instances of violence involving children every day. Would you like the President to comment on all of them? The President commented on the Trayvon Martin killing not because it was violence involving youth, but because it was a national story that proved very divisive.

Please, he contributed to the divisiveness. He didn't just comment.

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Anonymous wrote:So, @ 07:42 you're saying that b/c black and hispanic males grow up in the situations they are in - poor, in dysfunctional families, etc. they are led to make poor moral choices? And what exactly holds back their achievement? I realize that there are institutional forms of racism in America and that these things need to change, but I (a white guy) grew up in a majority Hispanic community and most of those Hispanics seemed to have achieved something in their lives - they were professionals or police officers or fire fighter/EMTs or small business owners. Where are those examples?

I didn't say that all minorities don't succeed.

But if you walk into the majority of schools where I've taught you will see most of the AA and Hispanic kids on free and reduced meals. You can easily examine the data to see a connection btw. absences and race. You can do a grade analysis and see similar trends - our MINORITY white population excelling, our blacks and Hispanics with poor grades.

sorry if many of you are living in La La Land - But there is an underclass, and while it sickens me to see that white boy being brutally beaten by three black kids, I know that race plays a role.

I hear it all the time. White kids at my schools are indeed picked on unless they're in upper level classes (and programs like IB) where all kids (all races) are most likely coming from supportive homes with educated parents.

Educated kids would rarely beat the living shit out of another kid.

It's a combination of race, poverty, and ignorance, and it's ugly.

And I agree - Where was Obama addressing that incident? Race aside, it clearly is a violent act involving children.

Wrong. So totally, unbelievably wrong. Beat downs happen every day in America and it happens to all races. You just don't get a YouTube video to show it.

Also, your "observations" on education and race is faulty. Unless, of course, you've taught in rural and urban populations. I'm guessing no though, right? And smart kids are bullied in schools across America. Stop trying to make it seem like only minorities pick on nerds, because it's simply not true.

And Obama is not going to address school bus beat downs. Stop being petty and ridiculous.

No, he's not. He feels if you are black, you get a pass in school re: bad behavior:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/27/obama-backs-race-based-school-discipline-policies/

Anonymous wrote:Kids get beat up all the time. Let's not act like white kids don't fight. One of the most vicious fights I ever saw was between two white teen girls fighting over some dude who was laughing the entire time. People need to teach their children to control their emotions.

This wasn't fighting. This was one kid having the shit beaten out of him by three other boys. HUGE difference.

Early on I taught in a very rural part of MD which housed a significant figure in the KKK. One of the KKK mothers threatened to have me killed b/c I was probably connected to mafia - lmfao! So yes, I've been in rural parts - not Deliverance, but rural enough.

Don't speak for me. I've taught the extremes.

I'm not saying only minorities pick on nerds - a term I haven't used in ages now, btw. But when you're the minority in a school, you get picked on. You can't seem to understand that, can you? not very bright IMO

And the worst case of bullying I've seen came from my own high school experiences - in a fairly uppity, all-girls private.

I'm just calling it like I see it - and I've seen quite a bit.

Kids are racist based on their experiences. Imagine going home each day to an empty apartment with hardly any food. Imagine having a baby at 14. Imagine being taught by mainly white teachers who drive decent cars, who dress well, and who have kids in schools you'd never ever attend - unless you were in a small pocket of section 8 housing surrounded by wealth.

I'd hate whites, too.

But you don't get it, and part of the problem is that MOST people don't get it.

I am angry that those boys pummeled the kid. But I'm also angry that their parents raised them to be savages. And I'm almost 100% certain that had they been held to more rigorous expectations - inside and outside of school - they wouldn't be those savages today.

So it's not black and white; it's all very gray. And a president who doesn't address violent issues involving teens doesn't give a goddamn fuck about "the other" kids. He doesn't.

So don't preach to me, honey bun. I've seen more than you can EVER imagine!

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Wrong. So totally, unbelievably wrong. Beat downs happen every day in America and it happens to all races. You just don't get a YouTube video to show it.

Also, your "observations" on education and race is faulty. Unless, of course, you've taught in rural and urban populations. I'm guessing no though, right? And smart kids are bullied in schools across America. Stop trying to make it seem like only minorities pick on nerds, because it's simply not true.

And Obama is not going to address school bus beat downs. Stop being petty and ridiculous.