Anonymous
06/16/2013 11:42
Subject: I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
Now let's put this old dog of thread down.
Anonymous
06/16/2013 11:38
Subject: Re:I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
Thank you DCUM, for rising up in unity against this bridge-dweller. You've renewed my faith in the people here to at least some small degree.
Anonymous
06/16/2013 11:34
Subject: Re:I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
Anonymous wrote:This man had nothing to do with german concentration camps. He was involved in fighting the communists. Ukraine suffered from the massive collectivization and the holodomor. Germans were initially seen as liberators.Anonymous wrote:OP: You need to take a trip over to some on the concentrations in Germany. When you come back home, if you don't want to kill this old guy with your own hands, get yourself some help.
This is not true. The SS participated in killing Jewish civilians and other civilians in many places. The Germans killed a lot of civilians outside of the camps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einsatzgruppen
There is evidence that this man's unit was present at some of these killings in the Ukraine and he was an officer. He is legally and morally liable.
Anonymous
06/16/2013 11:23
Subject: Re:I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
This man had nothing to do with german concentration camps. He was involved in fighting the communists. Ukraine suffered from the massive collectivization and the holodomor. Germans were initially seen as liberators.Anonymous wrote:OP: You need to take a trip over to some on the concentrations in Germany. When you come back home, if you don't want to kill this old guy with your own hands, get yourself some help.
Anonymous
06/16/2013 11:19
Subject: I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
Anonymous wrote:This should be a German WWII war crimes issue. More than 40 million people perished in WWII. Although tragic and criminal horrific the murders of 5.8 million Jews was no more painful than the deaths 35 million other souls during the war.
It is regrettable that since the term "Holocaust" was created 30 years after the war ended that the suffering of the Jews has come to overshadow the suffering of the world community during the Facsist Era.
Why are the other 5.2 Holocaust victims virtually ignored in this thread? Why has the Rape of Nanking or the wholesale rape of German women old and young in May 1945, been ignored as if they deserved it.
The slaughter of the Jews in WWII by the Germans was awful beyond my ability to articulate the horror, however it is frustrating that so many people have forgotten the full scope and horrors of that war and that the full extend of the suffering of tens of millions of non- Jewish people as well.
Jewish people are also being manipulated by the Holocaust Saga. The Holocaust is a great unifying force in the American Jewish Community. It is portrayed as a uniquely Jewish tragedy, which of course it was not. This man commited crimes against himanity and for this he should be punished.
War is hell. Atrocities and crimes against humanity are common. Even innocent German civilians were victims including having their cows and other livestock taken so they would starve to death.
Anonymous
06/16/2013 10:53
Subject: Re:I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
OP: You need to take a trip over to some on the concentrations in Germany. When you come back home, if you don't want to kill this old guy with your own hands, get yourself some help.
Anonymous
06/16/2013 10:47
Subject: I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
What exactly is the age cutoff for not being responsible for one's actions, OP?
Anonymous
06/16/2013 10:35
Subject: I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
Poland is asking for him. He worked for the Ukrainian ss. But we do not know in what capacity or what ranking. Those units were involved in burning villages etc. Partisans also did that. If the victims were not jewish then this is not a holocaust issue.
The crimes of the partisans have not been brought to justice.
The crimes of the partisans have not been brought to justice.
Anonymous
06/15/2013 10:32
Subject: Re:I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
Anonymous wrote:Consequences for your actions. Are they going to put him in jail and then prison after he's convicted?
He will be denaturalized, for lying about his war-time activities when he emigrated, then placed in immigration proceedings, then deported. If Germany wants to put him on trial (it usually does -- google John/Ivan Kalymon), he'll likely be extradited rather than deported. But the first step will be to denaturalize him and strip him of his US citizenship.
Anonymous
06/15/2013 05:53
Subject: I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
Anonymous wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/24/us/7-year-old-philadelphia-girl-abducted-monday-breaks-free.html
That's the link to the little 7 year old AA "woman". You can also google her and find more information.
I remember seeing Erica Platt's escape story told on the news. So, it was covered in the media. I don't know why you had to be negative about Elizabeth Smart - grown woman can't escape abduction at all times.
I do agree that white abducted girls get more news coverage than abducted girls of other ethnicities though.
Anonymous
06/15/2013 04:35
Subject: I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
Anonymous wrote:Op: I say this because the guy was 14 years old when the holocaust began in january 1933. How much say could a kid really have in a camp.
Backtracker. That was not your original assertion. You tweaked it when you realized it was absurd.
Anonymous
06/15/2013 04:31
Subject: I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
Anonymous wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/24/us/7-year-old-philadelphia-girl-abducted-monday-breaks-free.html
That's the link to the little 7 year old AA "woman". You can also google her and find more information.
Ok, it's early AM--but I don't see the article calling her a "woman." I see "girl" mentioned several times.
Also, this may not have made the headlines because she ESCAPED less than 24 hours after her abduction. I don't think I heard about Elizabeth Smart until more than 24 hours after her abduction.
Anonymous
06/15/2013 03:27
Subject: I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
This should be a German WWII war crimes issue. More than 40 million people perished in WWII. Although tragic and criminal horrific the murders of 5.8 million Jews was no more painful than the deaths 35 million other souls during the war.
It is regrettable that since the term "Holocaust" was created 30 years after the war ended that the suffering of the Jews has come to overshadow the suffering of the world community during the Facsist Era.
Why are the other 5.2 Holocaust victims virtually ignored in this thread? Why has the Rape of Nanking or the wholesale rape of German women old and young in May 1945, been ignored as if they deserved it.
The slaughter of the Jews in WWII by the Germans was awful beyond my ability to articulate the horror, however it is frustrating that so many people have forgotten the full scope and horrors of that war and that the full extend of the suffering of tens of millions of non- Jewish people as well.
Jewish people are also being manipulated by the Holocaust Saga. The Holocaust is a great unifying force in the American Jewish Community. It is portrayed as a uniquely Jewish tragedy, which of course it was not. This man commited crimes against himanity and for this he should be punished.
It is regrettable that since the term "Holocaust" was created 30 years after the war ended that the suffering of the Jews has come to overshadow the suffering of the world community during the Facsist Era.
Why are the other 5.2 Holocaust victims virtually ignored in this thread? Why has the Rape of Nanking or the wholesale rape of German women old and young in May 1945, been ignored as if they deserved it.
The slaughter of the Jews in WWII by the Germans was awful beyond my ability to articulate the horror, however it is frustrating that so many people have forgotten the full scope and horrors of that war and that the full extend of the suffering of tens of millions of non- Jewish people as well.
Jewish people are also being manipulated by the Holocaust Saga. The Holocaust is a great unifying force in the American Jewish Community. It is portrayed as a uniquely Jewish tragedy, which of course it was not. This man commited crimes against himanity and for this he should be punished.
Anonymous
06/15/2013 00:28
Subject: I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
Age is irrelevant to me. If hitler was 100 he should be tried and executed.
My only question (if im playing devils advocate here) is whether every german male of 22 years of age with a degree or to that effect was essentially forced to be an officer. there must have been tons of german officers in WWII.
My only question (if im playing devils advocate here) is whether every german male of 22 years of age with a degree or to that effect was essentially forced to be an officer. there must have been tons of german officers in WWII.
Anonymous
06/15/2013 00:22
Subject: I'm sorry about the holocaust, but enough is enough already. The guy is too old.
I would love to ask him what he thinks. Should we all just forget about it? I bet he would say "no".