Anonymous
Post 05/31/2013 12:42     Subject: Who thinks it is ridiculous when someone says his/her child is bored in school?
To the woman spewing the nonsense about gifted children never becoming bored. First of all, statements with "never" in them are usually wrong. Second of all, your sample size of two (or however many children you have) is pretty small. The logic of "my kids are gifted. My kids never get bored. Therefore gifted children never get bored." --is silly and fails. Go over to davidson gifted forums and read about how many of their gifted children are bored.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2013 12:41     Subject: Who thinks it is ridiculous when someone says his/her child is bored in school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, the mom with the reading 4-year-old seems like someone who is living through her DD. This is why she has convinced herself that no kid besides hers has ever read chapter books before kindergarten and that teachers have never seen such a prodigy. This self-talk must somehow make her feel like a more complete person.

I can't help you with your self-esteem issues because you're clearly unwilling to listen to logic about how teachers have seen early readers before, most teachers are willing to accommodate, and truly gifted kids will usually find ways to learn and entertain themselves.

All these points have been made to you, over and over, by multiple posters. Your only response is something like, "you don't understand because my kid is smarter than yours because she's the only kid who ever read before kindergarten."

Good bye. This is a waste of time and I'm tired of being insulted by someone who has a pathological need to ignore reason.


I think you are having an online argument with a figment of your imagination. Nowhere has that mom said the things Luke you gave described above.


Right. She never claimed the reason nobody agrees with her is because our kids are dumber than hers. She certainly never said this multiple times.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2013 12:11     Subject: Who thinks it is ridiculous when someone says his/her child is bored in school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^ I started reading at one/two? I don't remember a time when I could not read nor do I remember having any adult read to me as a child ever. I could always read my own bed time stories. I do remember that one motivation to read was b/c no one would read comic strips/books to me which I adored.

I'm sure your child will be happy and not bored in K. Reading/learning to read/etc is only a small part of k. She'll make lots of friends and have fun


I was born reading... straight out of the womb. there, take that!


Oh please! I started reading at conception. And you probably think you're "gifted," don't you? Ha! I say... Ha!


I was reading *before* the sperm showed up at my door. I allowed conception to happen because I was bored and needed to investigate.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2013 11:40     Subject: Who thinks it is ridiculous when someone says his/her child is bored in school?
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, the mom with the reading 4-year-old seems like someone who is living through her DD. This is why she has convinced herself that no kid besides hers has ever read chapter books before kindergarten and that teachers have never seen such a prodigy. This self-talk must somehow make her feel like a more complete person.

I can't help you with your self-esteem issues because you're clearly unwilling to listen to logic about how teachers have seen early readers before, most teachers are willing to accommodate, and truly gifted kids will usually find ways to learn and entertain themselves.

All these points have been made to you, over and over, by multiple posters. Your only response is something like, "you don't understand because my kid is smarter than yours because she's the only kid who ever read before kindergarten."

Good bye. This is a waste of time and I'm tired of being insulted by someone who has a pathological need to ignore reason.


I think you are having an online argument with a figment of your imagination. Nowhere has that mom said the things Luke you gave described above.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2013 10:46     Subject: Who thinks it is ridiculous when someone says his/her child is bored in school?
Honestly, the mom with the reading 4-year-old seems like someone who is living through her DD. This is why she has convinced herself that no kid besides hers has ever read chapter books before kindergarten and that teachers have never seen such a prodigy. This self-talk must somehow make her feel like a more complete person.

I can't help you with your self-esteem issues because you're clearly unwilling to listen to logic about how teachers have seen early readers before, most teachers are willing to accommodate, and truly gifted kids will usually find ways to learn and entertain themselves.

All these points have been made to you, over and over, by multiple posters. Your only response is something like, "you don't understand because my kid is smarter than yours because she's the only kid who ever read before kindergarten."

Good bye. This is a waste of time and I'm tired of being insulted by someone who has a pathological need to ignore reason.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2013 10:38     Subject: Who thinks it is ridiculous when someone says his/her child is bored in school?
I am absolutely amazed that some of the PPs believe an unchallenged child can never be bored. Really? Have you ever sat through an excruciatingly dull conference (or CLE, lecture, whatever) and found yourself bored? What options did you have to "investigate"?

Not every school has a policy that allows kids to "investigate". Great if yours does. My kid's doesn't. Any time that is spent on reading, math, writing, spelling - it's like placing a 10 year old in first grade and hoping they find it scintillating. He loves art because he can do something interesting. He loves science and social studies units because they offer new information. But the rest of the time - reading/writing/math - how does it make sense that he should find this engaging? Remember how writing sentences like "I will not pull Suzy's hair" was considered a reasonable punishment? It's because it's a task that is boring as hell and kids won't want to repeat. That's my son's experience at least 60% of the school day.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2013 10:34     Subject: Who thinks it is ridiculous when someone says his/her child is bored in school?
Anonymous wrote:

YOU can't understand that TRULY bright kids are rarely bored, because they are so curious that they need to explore.


And, of course, are always allowed to explore! Right?

(Actually, wrong.)
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2013 10:26     Subject: Who thinks it is ridiculous when someone says his/her child is bored in school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I just love "your kid must not be as smart as mine" - the ridiculousness brings a smile to my face. Especially from a mom whose kid hasn't started school yet. You can't make this stuff up.

Signed, Mom who is a National Merit Scholar herself and whose kids were reading chapter books (take that!) in K and are now in magnets (why do I say this? to establish street cred about my kids being just as smart, or smarter, than yours)


MoCo magnet? You sound exactly like someone I know. You are constantly blabbering on about how none of the kids in the program are truly gifted. "Just bright" you say. At the same time you go on and on about how your "just bright, not gifted" daughter is so advanced trying to make your point. "She knew all her states at 18 months, but she is just bright." I have never understood your argument, and I feel sorry for your kids.


In a way she is the one saying that no other child is as smart as hers!


How is it fair that pretentious mom with the reading 4-year-old can call everyone else's kids stupid, but when someone else tries to establish she knows what she's talking about -- she actually pointed out she was only saying these things to get "street cred" -- you slam HER for boasting? You people are crazy.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2013 10:22     Subject: Who thinks it is ridiculous when someone says his/her child is bored in school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^ I started reading at one/two? I don't remember a time when I could not read nor do I remember having any adult read to me as a child ever. I could always read my own bed time stories. I do remember that one motivation to read was b/c no one would read comic strips/books to me which I adored.

I'm sure your child will be happy and not bored in K. Reading/learning to read/etc is only a small part of k. She'll make lots of friends and have fun


I was born reading... straight out of the womb. there, take that!


Oh please! I started reading at conception. And you probably think you're "gifted," don't you? Ha! I say... Ha!
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2013 10:19     Subject: Who thinks it is ridiculous when someone says his/her child is bored in school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I just love "your kid must not be as smart as mine" - the ridiculousness brings a smile to my face. Especially from a mom whose kid hasn't started school yet. You can't make this stuff up.

Signed, Mom who is a National Merit Scholar herself and whose kids were reading chapter books (take that!) in K and are now in magnets (why do I say this? to establish street cred about my kids being just as smart, or smarter, than yours)


MoCo magnet? You sound exactly like someone I know. You are constantly blabbering on about how none of the kids in the program are truly gifted. "Just bright" you say. At the same time you go on and on about how your "just bright, not gifted" daughter is so advanced trying to make your point. "She knew all her states at 18 months, but she is just bright." I have never understood your argument, and I feel sorry for your kids.


Haha, no, that's not me and I've never talked about my kids' proficiency with states. I have no idea who you imagine you're talking to. I will guess, though, that my kids are older than yours and you have never met me.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2013 10:16     Subject: Who thinks it is ridiculous when someone says his/her child is bored in school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I just love "your kid must not be as smart as mine" - the ridiculousness brings a smile to my face. Especially from a mom whose kid hasn't started school yet. You can't make this stuff up.

Signed, Mom who is a National Merit Scholar herself and whose kids were reading chapter books (take that!) in K and are now in magnets (why do I say this? to establish street cred about my kids being just as smart, or smarter, than yours)


MoCo magnet? You sound exactly like someone I know. You are constantly blabbering on about how none of the kids in the program are truly gifted. "Just bright" you say. At the same time you go on and on about how your "just bright, not gifted" daughter is so advanced trying to make your point. "She knew all her states at 18 months, but she is just bright." I have never understood your argument, and I feel sorry for your kids.


In a way she is the one saying that no other child is as smart as hers!
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2013 10:15     Subject: Who thinks it is ridiculous when someone says his/her child is bored in school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

parents generate (deserved) hostility to magnet programs and gifted kids.


Why are you so bitter? You are obviously projecting. What you have written says a lot more about you than someone you don't know and their child.

The point is--You cannot make blanket statements. There are definitely kids who suffer from boredom in school because of how advanced they are. If you can't understand that you are not too bright. Think beyond your own bright children. There are kids out there that are twice as advanced as they. You know, maybe the boring work your kids happily do other kids will find absolutely stultifying.


Stop already with telling everyone else their kids are dumber than yours. It makes you sound like you have low self-esteem and live through your child's success -- which, frankly, is not that extraordinary, as others have pointed out to you.

YOU can't understand that TRULY bright kids are rarely bored, because they are so curious that they need to explore. Sorry your kid isn't quite this smart.

It's a scientific fact that kids' brains develop at different rates. Come back in 2nd grade when all the other kids are reading chapter books and yours no longer stands out. Then you will have to find another way to validate yourself.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2013 10:15     Subject: Who thinks it is ridiculous when someone says his/her child is bored in school?
Anonymous wrote:
I just love "your kid must not be as smart as mine" - the ridiculousness brings a smile to my face. Especially from a mom whose kid hasn't started school yet. You can't make this stuff up.

Signed, Mom who is a National Merit Scholar herself and whose kids were reading chapter books (take that!) in K and are now in magnets (why do I say this? to establish street cred about my kids being just as smart, or smarter, than yours)


MoCo magnet? You sound exactly like someone I know. You are constantly blabbering on about how none of the kids in the program are truly gifted. "Just bright" you say. At the same time you go on and on about how your "just bright, not gifted" daughter is so advanced trying to make your point. "She knew all her states at 18 months, but she is just bright." I have never understood your argument, and I feel sorry for your kids.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2013 10:08     Subject: Who thinks it is ridiculous when someone says his/her child is bored in school?
Anonymous wrote:

Out of state, highly regarded language immersion program. A lot of advancement is limited by the language, of all things. Kids are not allowed to advance because there is a concern that they won't have the vocabulary...which they can't learn until they advance. See how circular that is?


You can sort of see their point, though - it's like advancing to Algebra before you've covered Pre-Algebra. You and DC would need to find a way to cover the vocab ground between the current and next years. I taught myself the subjunctive in class with the teacher's enthusiastic support, which it sounds like you might not have (have you asked), but I also completed foreign language workbooks (!) at home because I loved languages so much. I think this is consistent with what other posters have said about kids who are not challenged finding a way to challenge themselves.

MoCo policy is also to allow independent investigation for kids who need more challenge. My kids have had teachers offer them this. It's true that not all teachers are up for this, or capable of managing kids at many different levels.
Anonymous
Post 05/31/2013 10:04     Subject: Who thinks it is ridiculous when someone says his/her child is bored in school?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:[

Wow, did I strike a nerve. There is a poster on this thread. Maybe it is the OP? Maybe it is you? This poster is saying that her "bright" DD was very advanced and was not bored in school THEREFORE no child SHOULD EVER BE BORED IN SCHOOL because of mismatched academic level. This person is the twit. Kids have different personalities, and there are kids that are brighter than her DD. I am not sure why you are starting a pissing contest. I was NMSF and was not identified as gifted in school. DH was identified gifted. DD is **not yet** in K and reading two or three chapter books a day at 4.5. She is sitting next to me reading Ribsy right now. She is not only a fluent reader, she reads a lot and just loves it. Why do I say this? Because, you do not know who you are talking to, and maybe I do have a DD who is smarter than your kids. You just don't know, so why do you pretend to.

My only real problem is that DD truly thinks school is supposed to challenge her academically in Kindergarten. Maybe it is because a lot of the stories she reads herself are of second graders going to school. I don't know. I actually think she will be fine. I am thankful that she will be one of the youngest in her grade and the social scene will challenge her enough. But, if she has problems in kindergarten because she can already read fluently and add and subtract I am not going to ignore them.


Good grief you sound insufferable. You've convinced yourself that it's just one person telling you that brilliant kids aren't necessarily bored in school, when in fact it's several of us writing things like "another poster here...." Your DD hasn't even started K, for Pete's sake, so you're not exactly in a good position to lecture the rest of us on the martyrdom of gifted kids. Apparently you've also convinced yourself that the experiences of other posters are somehow invalid because Snowflake is smarter than their kids (despite the numerous other posters telling you their kids read chapter books in K or before), or it's really only *one* poster, or we're just jealous of you and Snowflake ("I struck a nerve").

Ugh.

It's parents like you who give gifted kids and gifted programs a bad name. The moms who wail, "look at me, it's so hard to be the parent of a gifted kid" (apply hand to forehead). Why do I care? Well, I'm certain you'll never believe this, but my kids are pretty smart and rocking the magnet programs -- yeah, never mind, no kid could be as brilliant as yours and I'm probably "pretending" as you say. In any case, I get concerned when self-absorbed parents generate (deserved) hostility to magnet programs and gifted kids.


Why are you so bitter? You are obviously projecting. What you have written says a lot more about you than someone you don't know and their child.

The point is--You cannot make blanket statements. There are definitely kids who suffer from boredom in school because of how advanced they are. If you can't understand that you are not too bright. Think beyond your own bright children. There are kids out there that are twice as advanced as they. You know, maybe the boring work your kids happily do other kids will find absolutely stultifying.