Anonymous wrote:The Autism and vaccine connection were disproven so now the crazies are harping against the scientific and medical benefits of circumcision. Don't forget to ask them about obama being born in kenya and if 911 was an inside job.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My baby will be 14 days old. Will he be fussy the rest of the day, or days following? Could he catch a fever? What sort of post care did you take for your baby?
I'm ignoring all the other crap here, but I'd like to know - do you have to request this in advance at the hospital? Of your OB? I want to get it done but don't know how to go about it.
Sure, a discussion of the actual medical benefits and what the international medical community (not just an AAP task force) thinks about circumcision is crap. I guess you have to put your head in the sand if you want to continue this practice.
Perhaps you didn't understand me the first time. I don't care what you think. OP, can you give more info about this, please?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm a guy. I'm circ'd. I wouldn't have it any other way.
Also, if you choose not to have the procedure done on your son, prepare for the day the other kids make fun of him in the locker room at school. I remember telling this to a mom, and she was stunned that adolescent boys would compare their genitals and make fun of each other. I told her she clearly had never spent much time around adolescent boys.
I take the view that it's up to the parent. Yes, there are health benefits. And yes, there are cultural biases. But the absolute vitriol with which people talk on here -- YOUR KID IS A SERIAL RAPIST! YOU SHOULD GO TO PRISON! -- is just, well, disappointing.
Sadly, it is probably true that many parents think like that. However, since fewer and fewer parents are circumcising, this problem, if it exists, is going to go away.
FWIW, my husband, who is American but intact, was never made fun of in the locker room.
DH is intact and he says about half of the guys he went to high school with were. No one made fun of anyone for it.
Then again, we're educated and from the northeast, and circumcision is on the decline amongst people like us. Probably circumcised boys will be the ones getting pointed out as unusual in 15 years.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are mild to moderate health benefits to circ of males:
It reduces UTIs, HPV, HIV, syph, and chancroids in boys. It also reduces penile cancer, which is admittedly. It also reduces HPV in girls. Complications are rare. Studies show no decrease in function and no psychological effects.
You can read the NIH report on circ and the need for Medicaid, Medicare and insurance coverage here:http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdf/10.2105/AJPH.2008.134403
It's a moderately beneficial procedure with a low risk of complications which has little to no effect on function.
Get over it. This isn't mutilation or child abuse. It's a medical procedure that is supported by the data.
This has been posted before but it bears repeating: international medical scholars come to a different conclusion, and view the evidence for the medical benefits as tenuous:
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2013/03/12/peds.2012-2896.abstract
Anonymous wrote:There are mild to moderate health benefits to circ of males:
It reduces UTIs, HPV, HIV, syph, and chancroids in boys. It also reduces penile cancer, which is admittedly. It also reduces HPV in girls. Complications are rare. Studies show no decrease in function and no psychological effects.
You can read the NIH report on circ and the need for Medicaid, Medicare and insurance coverage here:http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdf/10.2105/AJPH.2008.134403
It's a moderately beneficial procedure with a low risk of complications which has little to no effect on function.
Get over it. This isn't mutilation or child abuse. It's a medical procedure that is supported by the data.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm a guy. I'm circ'd. I wouldn't have it any other way.
Also, if you choose not to have the procedure done on your son, prepare for the day the other kids make fun of him in the locker room at school. I remember telling this to a mom, and she was stunned that adolescent boys would compare their genitals and make fun of each other. I told her she clearly had never spent much time around adolescent boys.
I take the view that it's up to the parent. Yes, there are health benefits. And yes, there are cultural biases. But the absolute vitriol with which people talk on here -- YOUR KID IS A SERIAL RAPIST! YOU SHOULD GO TO PRISON! -- is just, well, disappointing.
Sadly, it is probably true that many parents think like that. However, since fewer and fewer parents are circumcising, this problem, if it exists, is going to go away.
FWIW, my husband, who is American but intact, was never made fun of in the locker room.
DH is intact and he says about half of the guys he went to high school with were. No one made fun of anyone for it.
Then again, we're educated and from the northeast, and circumcision is on the decline amongst people like us. Probably circumcised boys will be the ones getting pointed out as unusual in 15 years.
Anonymous wrote:Op here, I had no idea that my question was going to trigger
This conversation. My spouse and I are educated, unlike what one of the posters wrote previously. I spoke to many people before making this decision. In fact my brother (under 30) informed me that most of his "American -non Muslim, Jewish) friends had it done and it was no big deal. I do not know the denomination of his friends....Christian I'm assuming. Not to sound like its not a big deal. I watched the entire procedure and know exactly what happens, but like my dr said it is the 'norm' and most men do have it done at birth in hospitals, I'm sure for religious and non religious reasons. I do however see us moving away from this in the next generation. Either way, the procedure went well and baby is doing well.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm a guy. I'm circ'd. I wouldn't have it any other way.
Also, if you choose not to have the procedure done on your son, prepare for the day the other kids make fun of him in the locker room at school. I remember telling this to a mom, and she was stunned that adolescent boys would compare their genitals and make fun of each other. I told her she clearly had never spent much time around adolescent boys.
I take the view that it's up to the parent. Yes, there are health benefits. And yes, there are cultural biases. But the absolute vitriol with which people talk on here -- YOUR KID IS A SERIAL RAPIST! YOU SHOULD GO TO PRISON! -- is just, well, disappointing.
Sadly, it is probably true that many parents think like that. However, since fewer and fewer parents are circumcising, this problem, if it exists, is going to go away.
FWIW, my husband, who is American but intact, was never made fun of in the locker room.
Anonymous wrote:Op here, I had no idea that my question was going to trigger
This conversation. My spouse and I are educated, unlike what one of the posters wrote previously. I spoke to many people before making this decision. In fact my brother (under 30) informed me that most of his "American -non Muslim, Jewish) friends had it done and it was no big deal. I do not know the denomination of his friends....Christian I'm assuming. Not to sound like its not a big deal. I watched the entire procedure and know exactly what happens, but like my dr said it is the 'norm' and most men do have it done at birth in hospitals, I'm sure for religious and non religious reasons. I do however see us moving away from this in the next generation. Either way, the procedure went well and baby is doing well.
Anonymous wrote:I'm a guy. I'm circ'd. I wouldn't have it any other way.
Also, if you choose not to have the procedure done on your son, prepare for the day the other kids make fun of him in the locker room at school. I remember telling this to a mom, and she was stunned that adolescent boys would compare their genitals and make fun of each other. I told her she clearly had never spent much time around adolescent boys.
I take the view that it's up to the parent. Yes, there are health benefits. And yes, there are cultural biases. But the absolute vitriol with which people talk on here -- YOUR KID IS A SERIAL RAPIST! YOU SHOULD GO TO PRISON! -- is just, well, disappointing.
Anonymous wrote:I'm a guy. I'm circ'd. I wouldn't have it any other way.
Also, if you choose not to have the procedure done on your son, prepare for the day the other kids make fun of him in the locker room at school. I remember telling this to a mom, and she was stunned that adolescent boys would compare their genitals and make fun of each other. I told her she clearly had never spent much time around adolescent boys.
I take the view that it's up to the parent. Yes, there are health benefits. And yes, there are cultural biases. But the absolute vitriol with which people talk on here -- YOUR KID IS A SERIAL RAPIST! YOU SHOULD GO TO PRISON! -- is just, well, disappointing.