Anonymous wrote:Pope would be latino if he was in the usa. Here that is what his ethnicity would be. Except that latino is not an ethnicity in argentina. So argentina does not have latinos, but argentinas in america are latinos.

Argentina has through inter breeding, for lack of a better term, visually eliminated it's black and latino population. Just as Chile has. The DNA remains, but the visual traits have been made very faint to the point of being almost invisible.

Anonymous wrote:So, he's 76 and has one lung. I don't see how he can make it through Pope training camp.

Better than being younger and having no balls. You must know what I mean.

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From the encyclopedia brittanica, please dont stop your research at wikipedia:

"Boer, (Dutch: “husbandman,” or “farmer”), a South African of Dutch, German, or Huguenot descent, especially one of the early settlers of the Transvaal and the Orange Free State. Today, descendants of the Boers are commonly referred to as Afrikaners."

They are not a nationality (South African would be the nationality), but they are an ethic group and would not consider themselves "African". Likewise a lot of Argentines of Italian and German descent would not consider themselves Latino but probaly would not object to South American.

Afrikaans is dutch for african. Whites in south africa do consider themselves african.
I have been there and know this first hand. Afrikaans is widely spoken by non-whites as well.

Anonymous wrote:Apparently 22:29 didn't read the thread. She had no problem getting her first kid baptized at the church; for some unknown reason, the priest threw up the barriers when she tried to get her second kid baptized there. She was a regular contributing parishioner (ie: money in the envelope nearly every week)....so there were no red flags that she wasn't practicing. She ultimately switched parishes and her kids attend CCD every week....good enough for you,22:29?

To sum: Father Bully is simply a jerk. And the archdiocese should remove him from doing anything related to working with people. And the Church should not throw up barriers to any person who wants to baptize their kid.....they are losing people in droves and should be as welcoming as possible. The churches in Europe are empty and shutting down...the churches in the US should see the writing on the wall and do whatever they can to be more welcoming to young families. We've already lost a number of beautiful churches and parish schools in cities across America...very sad.

Or a cause for celebration, it's all in perspective.

Apparently 22:29 didn't read the thread. She had no problem getting her first kid baptized at the church; for some unknown reason, the priest threw up the barriers when she tried to get her second kid baptized there. She was a regular contributing parishioner (ie: money in the envelope nearly every week)....so there were no red flags that she wasn't practicing. She ultimately switched parishes and her kids attend CCD every week....good enough for you,22:29?

To sum: Father Bully is simply a jerk. And the archdiocese should remove him from doing anything related to working with people. And the Church should not throw up barriers to any person who wants to baptize their kid.....they are losing people in droves and should be as welcoming as possible. The churches in Europe are empty and shutting down...the churches in the US should see the writing on the wall and do whatever they can to be more welcoming to young families. We've already lost a number of beautiful churches and parish schools in cities across America...very sad.

Pope would be latino if he was in the usa. Here that is what his ethnicity would be. Except that latino is not an ethnicity in argentina. So argentina does not have latinos, but argentinas in america are latinos.

Of course he's Latino.

This is sort of like saying the son of a Mexican immigrant is not really an American. Because his parents aren't from "here."

Stop with the jingoism already. Everyone from the Americas is an immigrant, except indigenous peoples.

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Anonymous wrote:He was raised in Argentina, is a citizen of South America and speaks native Spanish. So he is South American. Why is this even a discussion?

Yes, he is South American - which is not the same as Latino. This is like calling a Boer an "African".

Had to google boer to see what you mean. The word means farmer. English fought a war with them in 1900, but such a nationality does not exist. Can you elaborate?

The Boers were Dutch and white; they were South African settlers.

you are right. They arrived in 1652.
How are they not african?

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Anonymous wrote:He was raised in Argentina, is a citizen of South America and speaks native Spanish. So he is South American. Why is this even a discussion?

Yes, he is South American - which is not the same as Latino. This is like calling a Boer an "African".

Had to google boer to see what you mean. The word means farmer. English fought a war with them in 1900, but such a nationality does not exist. Can you elaborate?

From the encyclopedia brittanica, please dont stop your research at wikipedia:

"Boer, (Dutch: “husbandman,” or “farmer”), a South African of Dutch, German, or Huguenot descent, especially one of the early settlers of the Transvaal and the Orange Free State. Today, descendants of the Boers are commonly referred to as Afrikaners."

They are not a nationality (South African would be the nationality), but they are an ethic group and would not consider themselves "African". Likewise a lot of Argentines of Italian and German descent would not consider themselves Latino but probaly would not object to South American.

I, for one, welcome our new one lunged Overlord. The wheezing is more authentically medieval.

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Anonymous wrote:They didn't know this just by being parishioners? All parishioners have a read on the priests in the parish if they attend mass. Did they just go to a different parish?

I don't understand about not having money so they got married outside? It doesn't cost anything to get married at your church. But I bet they didn't do their pre-Cana. Another red flag. It seems as though your sister wants to do t for your Mom which is FINE. But you can't just pick and choose what rules you want to follow in the church.
For the record I have had 4 kids in quick succession and had to take the class every single time in the same parish! They laugh at us as the "regulars." That is what is required.

But anyways, I hope she found another priest to do the baptism but most of all I hope she is actually raising the kids Catholic.

Sorry I missed the verse in the bible that says parents need a baptismal class before each baptism.

Did Mary do one before Jesus was baptized?

We are not picking and choosing the rules to follow, your parish priest are making me up.

Ummmm......to start. Mary didn't take a Catholic baptismal class because Jesus was born a Jew. Now Jeses was baptized as an adult (the name John the Baptist ring a bell?) so I am sure he did his own prep. See, Catholics believe in infant baptism requiring baptismal prep for the people standing in for the infant (parents/God parents). The parish priests aren't making anything up. Yes, some let is slide for parents they know are practicing Catholics. Some don't even for those they know well.

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Anonymous wrote:He was raised in Argentina, is a citizen of South America and speaks native Spanish. So he is South American. Why is this even a discussion?

Yes, he is South American - which is not the same as Latino. This is like calling a Boer an "African".

Had to google boer to see what you mean. The word means farmer. English fought a war with them in 1900, but such a nationality does not exist. Can you elaborate?

The Boers were Dutch and white; they were South African settlers.

what year?
Were the pilgrims Americans?

Making them up.

Anonymous wrote:They didn't know this just by being parishioners? All parishioners have a read on the priests in the parish if they attend mass. Did they just go to a different parish?

I don't understand about not having money so they got married outside? It doesn't cost anything to get married at your church. But I bet they didn't do their pre-Cana. Another red flag. It seems as though your sister wants to do t for your Mom which is FINE. But you can't just pick and choose what rules you want to follow in the church.
For the record I have had 4 kids in quick succession and had to take the class every single time in the same parish! They laugh at us as the "regulars." That is what is required.

But anyways, I hope she found another priest to do the baptism but most of all I hope she is actually raising the kids Catholic.

Sorry I missed the verse in the bible that says parents need a baptismal class before each baptism.

Did Mary do one before Jesus was baptized?

We are not picking and choosing the rules to follow, your parish priest are making me up.

They didn't know this just by being parishioners? All parishioners have a read on the priests in the parish if they attend mass. Did they just go to a different parish?

I don't understand about not having money so they got married outside? It doesn't cost anything to get married at your church. But I bet they didn't do their pre-Cana. Another red flag. It seems as though your sister wants to do t for your Mom which is FINE. But you can't just pick and choose what rules you want to follow in the church.
For the record I have had 4 kids in quick succession and had to take the class every single time in the same parish! They laugh at us as the "regulars." That is what is required.

But anyways, I hope she found another priest to do the baptism but most of all I hope she is actually raising the kids Catholic.