Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 23:37     Subject: Re:SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
I would like to return to the original issue and bring up a point that I read on the website, which is plans to include arabic at some point in the school (I suspect as a third language, not as an immersion choice). I think this would be great.

as for all the hoopla about Sela, I don't get it. I kind of agree that Hebrew is an somewhat odd choice, but why not? If the school were somehow simply manipulating the charter structure and using public funds to provide Hebrew education to Jewish students who otherwise would have to pay for it, I could see that as an issue. But given the state of schools in DC, if it is a good charter school, people will come, from all walks of life and religions.

Now, I still have lots of questions about the school itself. Went to the table at the expo, a little underwhelmed with the response to my question about their educational philosophy/curriculum (besides immersion). Interesting members of the board. My kid is too young for next year anyway, but I'll keep my eye on it.

Might be nice to start a thread on what language immersion school would you like to see? for me, Arabic and Korean....
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 22:01     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:Right, keep telling yourself it's only one person, the anti charter troll who hates all new charters...

Why don't you ask, Jeff? Hey Jeff!



Yes Jeff, please confirm that there are many many many different posters asking for the over-hype to stop. Although if you don't at least each of us knows the one or two posts we each did write... And all the ones we agree with but did not.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 21:55     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't know any Jews who use the words "gentiles" or "worship." I call BS.


Agree!


Do you know how to read what is in front of you? Previous PP didn't say he is Jew, but that he or she learned Hebrew. And this wasn't supposed to mean the same, remember the party line?
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 20:46     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:I don't know any Jews who use the words "gentiles" or "worship." I call BS.


Agree!
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 19:44     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
I don't know any Jews who use the words "gentiles" or "worship." I call BS.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 18:44     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
As someone who has actually studied Hebrew and doesn't use it for anything except worship I really don't know why gentiles would want their kids to learn it.

Maybe they think it's going to give their kids brownie points when applying for ivy leagues?
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 18:42     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Right, keep telling yourself it's only one person, the anti charter troll who hates all new charters...

Why don't you ask, Jeff? Hey Jeff!

Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 18:27     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Yes - the anti-Sela rhetoric all smacks of the same vicious, nasty and bitter anti-Charter troll who was on all of the YY, BASIS and other "new charter" threads. The same one who got so foul mouthed that Jeff had to delete her posts, the same one who Jeff busted and called out for incessant sock-puppeting.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 18:07     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very insidious all of this Sela-bashing. Certainly hope the chapters were the DCUM meanies go to has a strong anti-bullying program - cause clearly they aren't getting that at home.


1,000,000+


Indeed, PP somehow managed to include 1 million grammar mistakes in such tight space! Congrats, Sela, you're attracting the crime de la creme


Is the crime de la crime where the anti-SELA meanies hang out? Sounds about right
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 17:39     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very insidious all of this Sela-bashing. Certainly hope the chapters were the DCUM meanies go to has a strong anti-bullying program - cause clearly they aren't getting that at home.


1,000,000+


Indeed, PP somehow managed to include 1 million grammar mistakes in such tight space! Congrats, Sela, you're attracting the crime de la creme
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 15:23     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If teaching Hebrew makes Sela a "Jewish" school, then apparently the exact same logic would make any school that teaches Spanish a "Catholic" school, since most people who speak Spanish are Catholic.

Faulty logic.


Oh wow, the real faulty logic here is clearly yours. Spanish has not been kept alive by Catholicsm--you might have had a point if you had said Latin. Might.

The Hebrew language only exists today because of Judaism, and spoken Hebrew was 'reborn' in the 20th century.


Ladino is an centuries-old Spanish-based language kept alive by Jews. Yiddish is centuries-old German-based language kept alive by Jews.

History shows that Jews aren't just about keeping Hebrew alive.

And, in fact, Italian, Portuguese, French and Spanish are all Latin-based languages that were kept alive for hundreds of years from the fall of the Roman Empire by monastic scribes who were part of the Catholic church, promoted through various powerful Catholic institutions to include the Holy Roman Empire, to its successive kingdoms and monarchic dynasties that split off from Charlemagne's heirs, all swearing allegiance to the Catholic Church, and which still had significant influence right into the last 100 years.

Brush up on your history.

You really won't win any arguments about who's keeping what alive if you are going to selectively pick and choose your arguments.


What's that saying again about arguing with fools? Or those with no ability to use logic?
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 15:22     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If teaching Hebrew makes Sela a "Jewish" school, then apparently the exact same logic would make any school that teaches Spanish a "Catholic" school, since most people who speak Spanish are Catholic.

Faulty logic.


Oh wow, the real faulty logic here is clearly yours. Spanish has not been kept alive by Catholicsm--you might have had a point if you had said Latin. Might.

The Hebrew language only exists today because of Judaism, and spoken Hebrew was 'reborn' in the 20th century.


Ladino is an centuries-old Spanish-based language kept alive by Jews. Yiddish is centuries-old German-based language kept alive by Jews.

History shows that Jews aren't just about keeping Hebrew alive.

And, in fact, Italian, Portuguese, French and Spanish are all Latin-based languages that were kept alive for hundreds of years from the fall of the Roman Empire by monastic scribes who were part of the Catholic church, promoted through various powerful Catholic institutions to include the Holy Roman Empire, to its successive kingdoms and monarchic dynasties that split off from Charlemagne's heirs, all swearing allegiance to the Catholic Church, and which still had significant influence right into the last 100 years.

Brush up on your history.

You really won't win any arguments about who's keeping what alive if you are going to selectively pick and choose your arguments.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 15:17     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:Very insidious all of this Sela-bashing. Certainly hope the chapters were the DCUM meanies go to has a strong anti-bullying program - cause clearly they aren't getting that at home.


1,000,000+
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 14:41     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Very insidious all of this Sela-bashing. Certainly hope the chapters were the DCUM meanies go to has a strong anti-bullying program - cause clearly they aren't getting that at home.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2013 11:59     Subject: SELA! Hebrew immersion charter
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, from where I stand:

The "exaggerated claims" are:

the cabal of boosters of you conjure up(who can't exist because there is no school):

1. Think Sela will be a good school (The nerve!)
2. Believe that they found a good location (must be crazy!)
3. Hope to be part of DCI (how dare they!)
4. Believe the school will be diverse (which can be true because your snowflake won't be attending)
5. Think teaching Hebrew is a fine idea (crazy, because your snowflake won't be studying Hebrew)

I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, until I actually looked for evidence of "fabrications and exaggerated claims" and they simply don't exist. So, while I am loathe to conjure up my own conspiracy theories (aka your cabal of boosters canard), I think there is some wacky anti-charter or anti-Sela, or anti-Jewish element at play here and it's very sad. I take it very personally when people opine on what the children of DC want or need, since this usually a cloaked referenced to black children, and we have a multi-racial home. I welcome Sela and any other bilingual opportunity for my children.



This is pretty much what I saw as well. As for how much traffic their table at the Expo got, that's a matter of opinion - and as for how many applications they will or won't get, that's a matter of hope and speculation. Sela posters are every bit as much entitled to their opinions, hopes and speculations as anyone else.

I'm not a Sela supporter, we are enrolled in another school - but even so I don't see any reason to bash anyone else's school. This whole "Ugh, those Sela people and their optimism and hope to succeed... I can't stand them" thing is really quite bewildering. I mean, really. WTF. Pee + Cheerios?


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