Anonymous
Post 01/16/2013 13:58     Subject: AAP Work Session Scheduled for Jan. 14, 3:30 pm
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Except that for us Cluster 2 families, there is no compromise, only an unwanted solution that IS being shoved down our throats. We were told in the fall that Haycock is overcrowded and that the solution was to punt our kids, many of whom only arrived there in the last year or two, to Lemon Road. Then the base parents got ugly, and Strauss turned a deaf ear to us and refused -- until recently -- to even respond to us.

What I hope the Board focuses on is how to create new AAP centers for next year that are as good as the existing ones, and on how to prevent further overcrowding at our schools so that another group of students does not have to be jerked around the way ours have been. Can we please do some planning instead of just reacting?


Time to stop sulking and start preparing. Yours are still first-world problems.


Really? Talk about first world problems! You should have seen the materials prepared by the anti-grandfathering group. Oh, the horror! There are blue tape lines down the hallway and no sinks in the art room!


Exactly.
Suzie has to wait in line to wash her paint covered hands. Let's uproot 90 kids so she can get to the sink faster.


Making light of Haycock being overcrowded doesn't help your cause. Haycock is grossly overcrowded.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2013 13:58     Subject: AAP Work Session Scheduled for Jan. 14, 3:30 pm
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Except that for us Cluster 2 families, there is no compromise, only an unwanted solution that IS being shoved down our throats. We were told in the fall that Haycock is overcrowded and that the solution was to punt our kids, many of whom only arrived there in the last year or two, to Lemon Road. Then the base parents got ugly, and Strauss turned a deaf ear to us and refused -- until recently -- to even respond to us.

What I hope the Board focuses on is how to create new AAP centers for next year that are as good as the existing ones, and on how to prevent further overcrowding at our schools so that another group of students does not have to be jerked around the way ours have been. Can we please do some planning instead of just reacting?


Time to stop sulking and start preparing. Yours are still first-world problems.


Really? Talk about first world problems! You should have seen the materials prepared by the anti-grandfathering group. Oh, the horror! There are blue tape lines down the hallway and no sinks in the art room!


It seems to resonate with the principal and the teachers, who have made their views pretty clear.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2013 13:45     Subject: AAP Work Session Scheduled for Jan. 14, 3:30 pm
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Except that for us Cluster 2 families, there is no compromise, only an unwanted solution that IS being shoved down our throats. We were told in the fall that Haycock is overcrowded and that the solution was to punt our kids, many of whom only arrived there in the last year or two, to Lemon Road. Then the base parents got ugly, and Strauss turned a deaf ear to us and refused -- until recently -- to even respond to us.

What I hope the Board focuses on is how to create new AAP centers for next year that are as good as the existing ones, and on how to prevent further overcrowding at our schools so that another group of students does not have to be jerked around the way ours have been. Can we please do some planning instead of just reacting?


Time to stop sulking and start preparing. Yours are still first-world problems.


Really? Talk about first world problems! You should have seen the materials prepared by the anti-grandfathering group. Oh, the horror! There are blue tape lines down the hallway and no sinks in the art room!


Exactly.
Suzie has to wait in line to wash her paint covered hands. Let's uproot 90 kids so she can get to the sink faster.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2013 13:45     Subject: AAP Work Session Scheduled for Jan. 14, 3:30 pm
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seems there's not much point now debating what is essentially now been decided.


It's not over yet. They could surprise us all and grandfather everyone.


Then the Board would be accepting the fact that the renovation may not occur, as the school doesn't have enough room for the extra modulars required. If they did do the renovation, students wouldn't have outside recess for two years. I don't understand how the desires of 90 out-of-boundry families is so much greater than the 800 plus other families that attend the school. I think they should just open a Local Level IV site at Haycock and move the rest out.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2013 13:45     Subject: AAP Work Session Scheduled for Jan. 14, 3:30 pm
Anonymous wrote:
Also, many of those folks are Louise Archer families not Haycock families, so your picture proves nothing. If you knew the actual kids that will be moved, you would know that it's a very diverse group.


Honestly, the notion that the goal of base parents is to reduce the current diversity at Haycock is so laughable it's not worth debating, unless you define diversity in terms of the number of area clusters represented at the school. But the Cluster 2 parents who make that silly argument don't exactly look like the United Nations.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2013 13:26     Subject: AAP Work Session Scheduled for Jan. 14, 3:30 pm
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Except that for us Cluster 2 families, there is no compromise, only an unwanted solution that IS being shoved down our throats. We were told in the fall that Haycock is overcrowded and that the solution was to punt our kids, many of whom only arrived there in the last year or two, to Lemon Road. Then the base parents got ugly, and Strauss turned a deaf ear to us and refused -- until recently -- to even respond to us.

What I hope the Board focuses on is how to create new AAP centers for next year that are as good as the existing ones, and on how to prevent further overcrowding at our schools so that another group of students does not have to be jerked around the way ours have been. Can we please do some planning instead of just reacting?


Time to stop sulking and start preparing. Yours are still first-world problems.


Really? Talk about first world problems! You should have seen the materials prepared by the anti-grandfathering group. Oh, the horror! There are blue tape lines down the hallway and no sinks in the art room!
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2013 13:23     Subject: AAP Work Session Scheduled for Jan. 14, 3:30 pm
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It is an effort to cleanse Haycock. AAP centers cross cluster lines. They always have and they still do. Haycock knew it was overcrowded and didn't want it's own boundaries adjusted, and then figured out that if they created a cluster war, they could get rid of most of their diversity in one blow.


Not seeing a lot of diversity here:

https://sites.google.com/site/parents4aapequity/_/rsrc/1352686671898/home/IMG_9501.JPG


That picture shows 4 out of 90 kids. I fail to see your point.


Also, many of those folks are Louise Archer families not Haycock families, so your picture proves nothing. If you knew the actual kids that will be moved, you would know that it's a very diverse group.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2013 13:05     Subject: AAP Work Session Scheduled for Jan. 14, 3:30 pm
Anonymous wrote:Seems there's not much point now debating what is essentially now been decided.


It's not over yet. They could surprise us all and grandfather everyone.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2013 13:04     Subject: AAP Work Session Scheduled for Jan. 14, 3:30 pm
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
It is an effort to cleanse Haycock. AAP centers cross cluster lines. They always have and they still do. Haycock knew it was overcrowded and didn't want it's own boundaries adjusted, and then figured out that if they created a cluster war, they could get rid of most of their diversity in one blow.


Not seeing a lot of diversity here:

https://sites.google.com/site/parents4aapequity/_/rsrc/1352686671898/home/IMG_9501.JPG


That picture shows 4 out of 90 kids. I fail to see your point.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2013 12:10     Subject: AAP Work Session Scheduled for Jan. 14, 3:30 pm
Seems there's not much point now debating what is essentially now been decided.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2013 11:47     Subject: AAP Work Session Scheduled for Jan. 14, 3:30 pm
Anonymous wrote:
Except that for us Cluster 2 families, there is no compromise, only an unwanted solution that IS being shoved down our throats. We were told in the fall that Haycock is overcrowded and that the solution was to punt our kids, many of whom only arrived there in the last year or two, to Lemon Road. Then the base parents got ugly, and Strauss turned a deaf ear to us and refused -- until recently -- to even respond to us.

What I hope the Board focuses on is how to create new AAP centers for next year that are as good as the existing ones, and on how to prevent further overcrowding at our schools so that another group of students does not have to be jerked around the way ours have been. Can we please do some planning instead of just reacting?


Time to stop sulking and start preparing. Yours are still first-world problems.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2013 11:18     Subject: AAP Work Session Scheduled for Jan. 14, 3:30 pm
Anonymous wrote:
It is an effort to cleanse Haycock. AAP centers cross cluster lines. They always have and they still do. Haycock knew it was overcrowded and didn't want it's own boundaries adjusted, and then figured out that if they created a cluster war, they could get rid of most of their diversity in one blow.


Not seeing a lot of diversity here:

https://sites.google.com/site/parents4aapequity/_/rsrc/1352686671898/home/IMG_9501.JPG
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2013 11:15     Subject: AAP Work Session Scheduled for Jan. 14, 3:30 pm
But even without the annex option -grandfathering most would not address the need to reduce overall enrollment by next year. The overcrowding issue had boiled over and the call for grandfathering ignored the need overcrowding to be addressed. It would not have won over the Board --look again at Strauss' reasoning provided for her amendment.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2013 11:13     Subject: AAP Work Session Scheduled for Jan. 14, 3:30 pm
Anonymous wrote: The right solution is a compromise. It hasn't been shoved down anybody's throat. There is no solution that works for everyone.


Except that for us Cluster 2 families, there is no compromise, only an unwanted solution that IS being shoved down our throats. We were told in the fall that Haycock is overcrowded and that the solution was to punt our kids, many of whom only arrived there in the last year or two, to Lemon Road. Then the base parents got ugly, and Strauss turned a deaf ear to us and refused -- until recently -- to even respond to us.

What I hope the Board focuses on is how to create new AAP centers for next year that are as good as the existing ones, and on how to prevent further overcrowding at our schools so that another group of students does not have to be jerked around the way ours have been. Can we please do some planning instead of just reacting?
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2013 11:09     Subject: AAP Work Session Scheduled for Jan. 14, 3:30 pm
Anonymous wrote:Most cluster 2 parents DO NOT support the annex idea. It was one guy's crazy idea and I think it was the straw that broke the camels back. By introducing the idea, he made it seem as though we are all willing to leave Haycock, which is not the case. I think if grandfathering had been presented as the only acceptable solution, there might still be a chance. He gave them an inch and they're taking the whole mile.


I second this thought. Whoever came up with the Annex idea did not put much thought into it. Why would anyone imagine that the Haycock base parents would move their kids to another school. Even parents sympathetic and supportive of the grandfathering idea went ahead and supported against it when Annex was listed as other options. "the idea broke the camel's back".