Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 09:24     Subject: Sorry but your stinky eye won't make my crying toddler shut up...
OP,

It's all about you, right? How do you know the sender of the stinky eye doesn't have a wife who's dying of cancer? Or was up all night with a sick toddler? Other people have bad days!

Also, why didn't you go back to your screaming toddler, take her outside, load the film with her, give the patrons a break?
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 09:14     Subject: Sorry but your stinky eye won't make my crying toddler shut up...
Anonymous wrote:good for you if you have a car. some people don't, you know?

btw to those asking me to take the toddler outside, if you were one of the patrons enjoying your meal in the outdoor area would you be annoyed at my screaming child? note that it's a busy street with lots of such restaurants all with outdoor areas where people can eat and smoke.


Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Next time, remove your kid, take her outside, to the car and you will avoid the stinky eye. Simple.



and you'll hold my infant for me?

note that DH tries to help but infant and toddler are going through a phase that both will only be content on mom's lap. we're still adjusting. we can try to reason with the toddler but as some of you know it doesn't help. and unless DH is wearing a shirt bathed in breastmilk and my swat the infant won't stop screaming on his lap.


Take loud, obnoxious toddler out in the car (also infant if DH is incapable), let DH eat then come relieve you in the car so you can come back in and eat. Take some food in the car and let loud, obnoxious toddler eat in the car. Quite simple, really.

This is, of course, because "eating and leaving were NOT options".

Oh, and get over yourself.


I highly doubt you (not feeling well), your DH, your infant, and your toddler got to Chipotle without a car. Sorry, not buying it.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 09:11     Subject: Sorry but your stinky eye won't make my crying toddler shut up...
Anonymous wrote:oh so now, all at once I'm supposed to discipline my child, make sure my infant doesn't join the screaming chorus ad think about everybody else's perspective and try to guess what they'll think of my approach??? only on DCUM. gaaaaawd this is unbelievable.


You didn't have to think of it at that exact moment(It wouldn't have hurt, but it was hardly necessary), but are you saying you didn't have plenty of time to think about it while writing your initial post? And yes, you should discipline your child, keep them from screaming as much as possible, and respect the rights of others around you if you want to avoid offending people. Were you taught otherwise?
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 09:07     Subject: Sorry but your stinky eye won't make my crying toddler shut up...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Totally this. I've got 3 kids, 6, 3, and 13 months, and I never put up with any screaming antics at restaurants, be it McDonald's or the Ritz. If the kids act up, they get the MOMMY stink eye, which is pretty powerful. If they decide to defy me after that, their butts are whisked out until they calm down and get their act together. There's no reason a bratty child should upset other people's time to enjoy eating their meal. And putting an iPhone/movie in front of the child is a quick band-aid, I get that, but what about the bigger picture here? The child needs to understand that screaming is unacceptable at restaurants, period. If the parents don't get that, and aren't willing to teach their children that, then they should just order take-out or delivery. Sheesh.


You are my hero!

THIS woman knows how to parent.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 09:06     Subject: Sorry but your stinky eye won't make my crying toddler shut up...
good for you if you have a car. some people don't, you know?

btw to those asking me to take the toddler outside, if you were one of the patrons enjoying your meal in the outdoor area would you be annoyed at my screaming child? note that it's a busy street with lots of such restaurants all with outdoor areas where people can eat and smoke.


Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Next time, remove your kid, take her outside, to the car and you will avoid the stinky eye. Simple.



and you'll hold my infant for me?

note that DH tries to help but infant and toddler are going through a phase that both will only be content on mom's lap. we're still adjusting. we can try to reason with the toddler but as some of you know it doesn't help. and unless DH is wearing a shirt bathed in breastmilk and my swat the infant won't stop screaming on his lap.


Take loud, obnoxious toddler out in the car (also infant if DH is incapable), let DH eat then come relieve you in the car so you can come back in and eat. Take some food in the car and let loud, obnoxious toddler eat in the car. Quite simple, really.

This is, of course, because "eating and leaving were NOT options".

Oh, and get over yourself.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 09:04     Subject: Sorry but your stinky eye won't make my crying toddler shut up...

because you're not the center of the universe so you must learn to deal with adversity. i'm there to teach you a lesson or two about patience, empathy and tolerance.

if eating off the floor is an option for you good. it's not for me. please stop assuming that everybody is like you. we're not. thanks heaven we're NOT.


Wow! Thank you, master, for dear lesson on patience, empathy and tolerance. It is so nice of you to take that burden upon yourself to teach the world those very valuable lessons...

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA What an asshat!
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 09:03     Subject: Sorry but your stinky eye won't make my crying toddler shut up...
oh so now, all at once I'm supposed to discipline my child, make sure my infant doesn't join the screaming chorus ad think about everybody else's perspective and try to guess what they'll think of my approach??? only on DCUM. gaaaaawd this is unbelievable.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 09:01     Subject: Sorry but your stinky eye won't make my crying toddler shut up...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Next time, remove your kid, take her outside, to the car and you will avoid the stinky eye. Simple.



and you'll hold my infant for me?

note that DH tries to help but infant and toddler are going through a phase that both will only be content on mom's lap. we're still adjusting. we can try to reason with the toddler but as some of you know it doesn't help. and unless DH is wearing a shirt bathed in breastmilk and my swat the infant won't stop screaming on his lap.


Take loud, obnoxious toddler out in the car (also infant if DH is incapable), let DH eat then come relieve you in the car so you can come back in and eat. Take some food in the car and let loud, obnoxious toddler eat in the car. Quite simple, really.

This is, of course, because "eating and leaving were NOT options".

Oh, and get over yourself.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 08:55     Subject: Re:Sorry but your stinky eye won't make my crying toddler shut up...
Anonymous wrote:You made me lol there. If you think a crying kid is disturbing the peace in such a way as to put that law in your post, you must be one of those people who bitches about everyone in public.


In no way did I say that a crying child is disturbing the peace. I was only pointing out that the intent behind such laws was to prevent one person's rights from infringing on the rights of another.(You can yell as loudly as you want if no one is around to hear you, but if I can hear you yelling while I'm trying to sleep, you no longer have that right) The OP had stated that she had a right to a enjoy a meal, but that right doesn't trump the rights of others to do the same. If a child is crying loudly enough to disturb others around you, and you can't quiet them down quickly, then I consider it polite to remove them from the area in order to reduce the disruption to others. I've often seen parents do that in restaurants, movie theaters, and other public places, and I would do the same in that situation.

Again, from the perspective of the other customers, her actions didn't look nearly as noble as she makes them seem. Perception is important.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 08:46     Subject: Sorry but your stinky eye won't make my crying toddler shut up...
Anonymous wrote:

did you miss the part where i explained that i was embarrassed and actually doing something to make my child stop? not eating or going home was not an option. sorry.


It is an option and you choose not to take it. Sorry you were not feeling well, but it doesn't excuse your poor choices.


with no food in the house? i don't know about you but not eating right there was NOT an option for ME. and since the world does not revolve around YOU either you're better learn to deal with adversity. not every place will only have pleasant people around, you know?


OP, going home is ALWAYS an option - and Chipotle has to go packaging if you need it. Yes, it's less of a big deal that your child acted up in Chipotle than it would be if they acted up in a fancy restaurant, but other people in the restaurant are still allowed to be irritated by your child's tantrum.

I have a three year old and a four month old - I get that it's hard to have both a baby and a preschooler in general, and I get that it's extra hard when you're not feeling well, but that doesn't mean manners and common sense completely go out the window. Next time you don't want to cook, order something to be delivered!
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 08:46     Subject: Sorry but your stinky eye won't make my crying toddler shut up...

Actually, this is the one that offended me.

Anonymous wrote:It's chipotle. Sorry but anyone there has already given up on civilization. When you go to mcdonalds version of a Mexican restaurant youngive up the right to complain. About anything.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 08:38     Subject: Re:Sorry but your stinky eye won't make my crying toddler shut up...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, did you or anyone defending you ever stop to think of how your actions looked to the other customers around you? From your own initial post, you had a child being loud, running around, and crying at your table. Then you proceed to take the phone away from the child, causing even louder screaming, and walk towards the door while saying "I'll be right back." No matter what your reasons, it looked like a parent with a screaming/crying child was leaving the table so they could go make a phone call, not trying to deal with the issues. In that situation, of course you are going to get the stink eye. Your follow-up posts show that you didn't seem to think that anything mattered except for your own opinion and entitlements, and you are completely oblivious to how others would have perceived the same situation from the outside. Sorry, but next time, take the child outside with you until they quiet down. Your rights are not unlimited. They end where the rights of others begin. That's the whole point behind laws such as "disturbing the peace" and "public nuisance". You can do what you want up until it starts to interfere with the ability of others to do the same.


I think it's just the OP posting over and over.


Not the OP. I posted in her defense. What her child did might annoy someone for a moment, not a lifetime, so I don't understand all the negativity towards her.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 08:28     Subject: Re:Sorry but your stinky eye won't make my crying toddler shut up...
Anonymous wrote:OP, did you or anyone defending you ever stop to think of how your actions looked to the other customers around you? From your own initial post, you had a child being loud, running around, and crying at your table. Then you proceed to take the phone away from the child, causing even louder screaming, and walk towards the door while saying "I'll be right back." No matter what your reasons, it looked like a parent with a screaming/crying child was leaving the table so they could go make a phone call, not trying to deal with the issues. In that situation, of course you are going to get the stink eye. Your follow-up posts show that you didn't seem to think that anything mattered except for your own opinion and entitlements, and you are completely oblivious to how others would have perceived the same situation from the outside. Sorry, but next time, take the child outside with you until they quiet down. Your rights are not unlimited. They end where the rights of others begin. That's the whole point behind laws such as "disturbing the peace" and "public nuisance". You can do what you want up until it starts to interfere with the ability of others to do the same.


You made me lol there. If you think a crying kid is disturbing the peace in such a way as to put that law in your post, you must be one of those people who bitches about everyone in public.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 08:27     Subject: Re:Sorry but your stinky eye won't make my crying toddler shut up...
Anonymous wrote:OP, did you or anyone defending you ever stop to think of how your actions looked to the other customers around you? From your own initial post, you had a child being loud, running around, and crying at your table. Then you proceed to take the phone away from the child, causing even louder screaming, and walk towards the door while saying "I'll be right back." No matter what your reasons, it looked like a parent with a screaming/crying child was leaving the table so they could go make a phone call, not trying to deal with the issues. In that situation, of course you are going to get the stink eye. Your follow-up posts show that you didn't seem to think that anything mattered except for your own opinion and entitlements, and you are completely oblivious to how others would have perceived the same situation from the outside. Sorry, but next time, take the child outside with you until they quiet down. Your rights are not unlimited. They end where the rights of others begin. That's the whole point behind laws such as "disturbing the peace" and "public nuisance". You can do what you want up until it starts to interfere with the ability of others to do the same.


I think it's just the OP posting over and over.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 08:24     Subject: Sorry but your stinky eye won't make my crying toddler shut up...
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, if anyone gave me the stink eye I would laugh really loud in their face.

That said, tend to any crying individual immediately, regardless of age! Do you blame the child for not wanting to sit there? Call me what you will, but Dh and I did not go to restaurants until the children were old enough to grasp manners. It depends on the child, but it is NOT infant or toddler age.



Totally this. I've got 3 kids, 6, 3, and 13 months, and I never put up with any screaming antics at restaurants, be it McDonald's or the Ritz. If the kids act up, they get the MOMMY stink eye, which is pretty powerful. If they decide to defy me after that, their butts are whisked out until they calm down and get their act together. There's no reason a bratty child should upset other people's time to enjoy eating their meal. And putting an iPhone/movie in front of the child is a quick band-aid, I get that, but what about the bigger picture here? The child needs to understand that screaming is unacceptable at restaurants, period. If the parents don't get that, and aren't willing to teach their children that, then they should just order take-out or delivery. Sheesh.


i wonder what kind of manners your 13mo old knows... and once my newborn is old enough to sit in his stroller quietly and all this mastitis/thrush goes away i promise you i'll put more effort into teaching manners to my toddler. for now, just out of childbirth and feeling so ill, i'll go with the flow. a full tummy and weather appropriate clothing are my goals for now.


New poster here. Only a woman who thinks the world cares about her "mastitis and thrush" would write a response like this. And why the hell are you feeling ill? Do you think the guy at the next table cares that poor you feels ill because you have a BABY? Get over yourself.





Maybe the guy who shot you the dirty look was having his first meal out after leaving the hospital after his wife died. Maybe he was looking for five minutes of quiet. Maybe he just found out he had cancer and he doesn't give a fuck about "thrush" - did you ever think about these things? (Both of these things have happened to coworkers of mine this week)

Get your head out of your little world for a second, other people have it WAY worse then a little mastitis or thrush. Your life is pretty fucking good.