Anonymous
05/14/2012 19:01
Subject: Teachers- How much do you get paid?
Anonymous wrote:wow. You have no clue, apparently. There are many lawyers that work for the public good tirelessly for very little pay.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm a lawyer and work my tail off and don't make much more. Yet not one feels sorry for us.
Unless you claim you can't pee during your 8-hour day, I really can't say I feel sorry for you.
must be nice to complete paperwork or make a few calls while you sit at your desk - uninterrupted - drinking your cup of coffee
You're pathetic.
Right . . .
And Arrogant Lawyer is NOT one of them.
I do have a clue. I have friends in Big Law; I have friends who work for nonprofits. I am simply pointing out that Arrogant Lawyer is condescending.
If you can't see that, I hope you're neither a teacher nor lawyer, as reading btw. the lines is a skill required in both professions.
Anonymous
05/14/2012 19:00
Subject: Teachers- How much do you get paid?
17:57 But you aren't being a catalyst for change, PP, by buying your own supplies. You are allowing the school to take advantage of you.
If you want to change the system, the administration and parent association need to know what it costs to educate their children and need to have a plan to pay for it. In the absence of that, yes, the students do without. If parents care about this, they will pay for it. They should. Or the school should. The teacher, most definitely, should not.
If you want to change the system, the administration and parent association need to know what it costs to educate their children and need to have a plan to pay for it. In the absence of that, yes, the students do without. If parents care about this, they will pay for it. They should. Or the school should. The teacher, most definitely, should not.
Anonymous
05/14/2012 18:54
Subject: Teachers- How much do you get paid?
wow. You have no clue, apparently. There are many lawyers that work for the public good tirelessly for very little pay.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm a lawyer and work my tail off and don't make much more. Yet not one feels sorry for us.
Unless you claim you can't pee during your 8-hour day, I really can't say I feel sorry for you.
must be nice to complete paperwork or make a few calls while you sit at your desk - uninterrupted - drinking your cup of coffee
You're pathetic.
Anonymous
05/14/2012 18:45
Subject: Re:Teachers- How much do you get paid?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I did not expect this thread to be teachers vs lawyers. In no way are the two professions comparable at all. I can only speak as a teacher though... I love teaching so much. I feel I was born to teach. Yes, I am living paycheck to paycheck but I can honestly wake up every morning happy to teach. Sure us teachers can choose other jobs, but I for one, would not change my profession even though I may struggle with the lack of money. Mind you, I work at a daycare, not at a school. The cons, I do not get a bathroom break. Crazy how every teacher says this. It is very true though. We can not just up and leave when we have to pee, as no one will be there with the children. It is much harder to call off of work because no one is there to take your place, and the children can not reschedule the day they come to daycare because the teacher is sick. We have a lot of people to answer to, parents, directors, admin, managers, licensing, the state etc. Our job is not just playing with children. We have to create and implement lesson plans, do conferences, make observations, and work alongside other professionals such as therapist. Most of our supplies come out of pocket. My paycheck literally goes back to the children. The pros of working with children? The children- priceless.
This drives me nuts as a teacher.
We're not martyrs. Stop living paycheck to paycheck - with money that "literally goes back to the children." No wonder the public has no respect for us.
Okay then. How would you be a catalyst for change? If I'm doing a unit on butterflies and need a net and larvae and the administration won't buy it, I'm not going to deprive that experience from my kids. I'm going to buy it myself. If we're low on markers and crayons and my program manager says, "Wait," I'm not going to wait. We can't have 16 markers for 16 children. On payday I'm going to Target and replenish our supply. If we need playdough, I'll make it myself at home with supplies from my pantry. The lack won't be on the backs of my kids. I'll eat mac and cheese every night for dinner if I must. What would you do?
What would I do?
I would skip that unit and find one that fits w/in the school's budget. There are other ways to show how butterflies develop. Show a Youtube clip. Have them draw the process of metamorphosis during an interdisciplinary lesson where you collaborate with the art teacher. Read a story on butterflies! Take a field trip to a butterfly exhibit. Brookside has a great yearly exhibit. You'd get group rates. Plus, what's $4 per kid?
Ask the PTA to raise funds. Have the KIDS bring in supplies; it's THEIR responsibility to have the basics. And if you're in a Title One school, there are federal funds to pay for extra resources.
Stop forking over your OWN money for school supplies and materials. You, as teacher, are not an individual non-profit.
This is absolutely absurd! I've been in the "real world" before making the transition into teaching. Not ONCE did I purchase my own supplies when I worked in an office.
This is absolutely pathetic. I am so embarrassed to read your post. Where's your creativity?
These are Pre-K kids (4-5 years old) in a community based center in Columbia Heights. Most of the parents are Latino immigrants with few resources. We're going to the butterfly pavilion at the Natural History Museum. We're reading multiple stories on butterflies. We'll watch youtube clips. There is no art teacher. There is no PTA. I want them to have hands on experiences too, hence the net and larvae. I'm highly creative and love what I do. Your belittling of me and saying I'm pathetic brought a lump to my throat and tears to my eyes. I don't begrudge the money I spend on my kids.
Thanks for your support.
Anonymous
05/14/2012 18:35
Subject: Teachers- How much do you get paid?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:$50k is nice, but it's hard to support a family in this area without another income. It's ridiculous.
The salary is a bit misleading because of working 9 months. take the salary divide by nine then times 12 is the real salary, that ls not including the gold plated health and ension benifits.
Where do people come up with nine months? Around here teachers work through most of June and go back in September which leaves July and August when most teachers I know are taking continuing ed classes or material for the next year.
So true. I am out of my classroom around June 20 and back in around Aug 10. School in the District doesn't start after labor day. It usually starts around Aug 25. I work at camp in the summer. Take about three weeks off in July to be with my family at our lake cottage in upstate NY to rest and regain my sanity so I can start all over again. I teach Pre-K. It is physically and emotionally tiring, but I pretty much love it. Can't imagine being in a desk job.
Yes, but you get 2 weeks for Xmas. 10 days for spring break. 4 days at t-giving. Columbus day. Labor Day. that's a lot. And not everyone has a family with a lake house that they can stay at for free.
What I don't get is why people are begrudging time off for people who make relatively low salaries compared to people in higher paying jobs? Also, the "summers off" thing was set up a long time ago when we had an agrarian calendar and children needed to help with the harvest. If it bugs you so much, why pick on teachers? They are not the decision makers. Advocate for change; contact your member of Congress.
Anonymous
05/14/2012 18:33
Subject: Teachers- How much do you get paid?
This is 18-31. Referring yo my typos. Not above post.
Anonymous
05/14/2012 18:32
Subject: Teachers- How much do you get paid?
Excuse above typos!
Anonymous
05/14/2012 18:31
Subject: Re:Teachers- How much do you get paid?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I did not expect this thread to be teachers vs lawyers. In no way are the two professions comparable at all. I can only speak as a teacher though... I love teaching so much. I feel I was born to teach. Yes, I am living paycheck to paycheck but I can honestly wake up every morning happy to teach. Sure us teachers can choose other jobs, but I for one, would not change my profession even though I may struggle with the lack of money. Mind you, I work at a daycare, not at a school. The cons, I do not get a bathroom break. Crazy how every teacher says this. It is very true though. We can not just up and leave when we have to pee, as no one will be there with the children. It is much harder to call off of work because no one is there to take your place, and the children can not reschedule the day they come to daycare because the teacher is sick. We have a lot of people to answer to, parents, directors, admin, managers, licensing, the state etc. Our job is not just playing with children. We have to create and implement lesson plans, do conferences, make observations, and work alongside other professionals such as therapist. Most of our supplies come out of pocket. My paycheck literally goes back to the children. The pros of working with children? The children- priceless.
This drives me nuts as a teacher.
We're not martyrs. Stop living paycheck to paycheck - with money that "literally goes back to the children." No wonder the public has no respect for us.
Okay then. How would you be a catalyst for change? If I'm doing a unit on butterflies and need a net and larvae and the administration won't buy it, I'm not going to deprive that experience from my kids. I'm going to buy it myself. If we're low on markers and crayons and my program manager says, "Wait," I'm not going to wait. We can't have 16 markers for 16 children. On payday I'm going to Target and replenish our supply. If we need playdough, I'll make it myself at home with supplies from my pantry. The lack won't be on the backs of my kids. I'll eat mac and cheese every night for dinner if I must. What would you do?
What would I do?
I would skip that unit and find one that fits w/in the school's budget. There are other ways to show how butterflies develop. Show a Youtube clip. Have them draw the process of metamorphosis during an interdisciplinary lesson where you collaborate with the art teacher. Read a story on butterflies! Take a field trip to a butterfly exhibit. Brookside has a great yearly exhibit. You'd get group rates. Plus, what's $4 per kid?
Ask the PTA to raise funds. Have the KIDS bring in supplies; it's THEIR responsibility to have the basics. And if you're in a Title One school, there are federal funds to pay for extra resources.
Stop forking over your OWN money for school supplies and materials. You, as teacher, are not an individual non-profit.
This is absolutely absurd! I've been in the "real world" before making the transition into teaching. Not ONCE did I purchase my own supplies when I worked in an office.
This is absolutely pathetic. I am so embarrassed to read your post. Where's your creativity?
Anonymous
05/14/2012 18:31
Subject: Teachers- How much do you get paid?
Do projects is small/rotating groups yo share limited supplies.
Print out activities on the computer/Use public library to substitute for buying the larvae and net.
See if I could get donations from stores or parents.
Kids could do a fundraiser for school supplies.
NOT eat Mac & cheese daily.
Print out activities on the computer/Use public library to substitute for buying the larvae and net.
See if I could get donations from stores or parents.
Kids could do a fundraiser for school supplies.
NOT eat Mac & cheese daily.
Anonymous
05/14/2012 18:29
Subject: Teachers- How much do you get paid?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:$50k is nice, but it's hard to support a family in this area without another income. It's ridiculous.
The salary is a bit misleading because of working 9 months. take the salary divide by nine then times 12 is the real salary, that ls not including the gold plated health and ension benifits.
Where do people come up with nine months? Around here teachers work through most of June and go back in September which leaves July and August when most teachers I know are taking continuing ed classes or material for the next year.
So true. I am out of my classroom around June 20 and back in around Aug 10. School in the District doesn't start after labor day. It usually starts around Aug 25. I work at camp in the summer. Take about three weeks off in July to be with my family at our lake cottage in upstate NY to rest and regain my sanity so I can start all over again. I teach Pre-K. It is physically and emotionally tiring, but I pretty much love it. Can't imagine being in a desk job.
Yes, but you get 2 weeks for Xmas. 10 days for spring break. 4 days at t-giving. Columbus day. Labor Day. that's a lot. And not everyone has a family with a lake house that they can stay at for free.
Anonymous
05/14/2012 17:57
Subject: Re:Teachers- How much do you get paid?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I did not expect this thread to be teachers vs lawyers. In no way are the two professions comparable at all. I can only speak as a teacher though... I love teaching so much. I feel I was born to teach. Yes, I am living paycheck to paycheck but I can honestly wake up every morning happy to teach. Sure us teachers can choose other jobs, but I for one, would not change my profession even though I may struggle with the lack of money. Mind you, I work at a daycare, not at a school. The cons, I do not get a bathroom break. Crazy how every teacher says this. It is very true though. We can not just up and leave when we have to pee, as no one will be there with the children. It is much harder to call off of work because no one is there to take your place, and the children can not reschedule the day they come to daycare because the teacher is sick. We have a lot of people to answer to, parents, directors, admin, managers, licensing, the state etc. Our job is not just playing with children. We have to create and implement lesson plans, do conferences, make observations, and work alongside other professionals such as therapist. Most of our supplies come out of pocket. My paycheck literally goes back to the children. The pros of working with children? The children- priceless.
This drives me nuts as a teacher.
We're not martyrs. Stop living paycheck to paycheck - with money that "literally goes back to the children." No wonder the public has no respect for us.
Okay then. How would you be a catalyst for change? If I'm doing a unit on butterflies and need a net and larvae and the administration won't buy it, I'm not going to deprive that experience from my kids. I'm going to buy it myself. If we're low on markers and crayons and my program manager says, "Wait," I'm not going to wait. We can't have 16 markers for 16 children. On payday I'm going to Target and replenish our supply. If we need playdough, I'll make it myself at home with supplies from my pantry. The lack won't be on the backs of my kids. I'll eat mac and cheese every night for dinner if I must. What would you do?
Anonymous
05/14/2012 17:49
Subject: Teachers- How much do you get paid?
Another teacher here. Agree w/ 27.45. I hand in my receipts for reimbursements.
Anonymous
05/14/2012 17:45
Subject: Re:Teachers- How much do you get paid?
Anonymous wrote:I did not expect this thread to be teachers vs lawyers. In no way are the two professions comparable at all. I can only speak as a teacher though... I love teaching so much. I feel I was born to teach. Yes, I am living paycheck to paycheck but I can honestly wake up every morning happy to teach. Sure us teachers can choose other jobs, but I for one, would not change my profession even though I may struggle with the lack of money. Mind you, I work at a daycare, not at a school. The cons, I do not get a bathroom break. Crazy how every teacher says this. It is very true though. We can not just up and leave when we have to pee, as no one will be there with the children. It is much harder to call off of work because no one is there to take your place, and the children can not reschedule the day they come to daycare because the teacher is sick. We have a lot of people to answer to, parents, directors, admin, managers, licensing, the state etc. Our job is not just playing with children. We have to create and implement lesson plans, do conferences, make observations, and work alongside other professionals such as therapist. Most of our supplies come out of pocket. My paycheck literally goes back to the children. The pros of working with children? The children- priceless.
This drives me nuts as a teacher.
We're not martyrs. Stop living paycheck to paycheck - with money that "literally goes back to the children." No wonder the public has no respect for us.
Anonymous
05/14/2012 17:28
Subject: Re:Teachers- How much do you get paid?
I did not expect this thread to be teachers vs lawyers. In no way are the two professions comparable at all. I can only speak as a teacher though... I love teaching so much. I feel I was born to teach. Yes, I am living paycheck to paycheck but I can honestly wake up every morning happy to teach. Sure us teachers can choose other jobs, but I for one, would not change my profession even though I may struggle with the lack of money. Mind you, I work at a daycare, not at a school. The cons, I do not get a bathroom break. Crazy how every teacher says this. It is very true though. We can not just up and leave when we have to pee, as no one will be there with the children. It is much harder to call off of work because no one is there to take your place, and the children can not reschedule the day they come to daycare because the teacher is sick. We have a lot of people to answer to, parents, directors, admin, managers, licensing, the state etc. Our job is not just playing with children. We have to create and implement lesson plans, do conferences, make observations, and work alongside other professionals such as therapist. Most of our supplies come out of pocket. My paycheck literally goes back to the children. The pros of working with children? The children- priceless.
Anonymous
05/14/2012 15:16
Subject: Re:Teachers- How much do you get paid?
Some of the so called teachers here sound so bitter. You'd wonder why they even do it? Like the one (ones) that are ragging on the lawyer.
You have some reading comprehension issues there. It's the bitter and hysterical lawyer picking on the teachers, while laughably, suggesting s/he works harder than the teachers.