Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps memory has deserted me, but I don't remember back when the Bethesda family with the triplets -- their house burned down because they had no smoke detectors -- I believe it was 2009 -- anyway, I don't remember a long discussion of their decision to have triplets, IVF, and so forth, and their other sexual practices. It just didn't seem relevant to their tragedy.

But that's BETHESDA. They DESERVE our compassion because they're from here. We don't care about rural folks from Louisiana. It cuts into our manufactured entertainment of making fun of them for their plight in life. Don't stop our fun now with your rational arguments.

If the deaths of their children could have been prevented by a simple installation of fire alarms, of course they are just as irresponsible as this woman. However, there is a difference in making 5 children which 3 or more men and bringing them into poverty, and bringing 3 into a stable home though IVF. Are you really that obtuse?

All to wind up deader than Elvis. Yeah, huge difference.

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps memory has deserted me, but I don't remember back when the Bethesda family with the triplets -- their house burned down because they had no smoke detectors -- I believe it was 2009 -- anyway, I don't remember a long discussion of their decision to have triplets, IVF, and so forth, and their other sexual practices. It just didn't seem relevant to their tragedy.

You know why there was no long discussion on DCUM, because the women of DCUM, yes the privileged, could mentally picture themselves as the woman in Bethesda.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps memory has deserted me, but I don't remember back when the Bethesda family with the triplets -- their house burned down because they had no smoke detectors -- I believe it was 2009 -- anyway, I don't remember a long discussion of their decision to have triplets, IVF, and so forth, and their other sexual practices. It just didn't seem relevant to their tragedy.

But that's BETHESDA. They DESERVE our compassion because they're from here. We don't care about rural folks from Louisiana. It cuts into our manufactured entertainment of making fun of them for their plight in life. Don't stop our fun now with your rational arguments.

If the deaths of their children could have been prevented by a simple installation of fire alarms, of course they are just as irresponsible as this woman. However, there is a difference in making 5 children which 3 or more men and bringing them into poverty, and bringing 3 into a stable home though IVF. Are you really that obtuse?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps memory has deserted me, but I don't remember back when the Bethesda family with the triplets -- their house burned down because they had no smoke detectors -- I believe it was 2009 -- anyway, I don't remember a long discussion of their decision to have triplets, IVF, and so forth, and their other sexual practices. It just didn't seem relevant to their tragedy.

But that's BETHESDA. They DESERVE our compassion because they're from here. We don't care about rural folks from Louisiana. It cuts into our manufactured entertainment of making fun of them for their plight in life. Don't stop our fun now with your rational arguments.

You're absolutely right. The uber-wealthy Bethesda family deserved all our compassion and help while they waited for their insurance settlement in safety and comfort, whereas the Louisiana woman should have scorn and abuse heaped upon her while she has nothing but the clothes on her back.

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps memory has deserted me, but I don't remember back when the Bethesda family with the triplets -- their house burned down because they had no smoke detectors -- I believe it was 2009 -- anyway, I don't remember a long discussion of their decision to have triplets, IVF, and so forth, and their other sexual practices. It just didn't seem relevant to their tragedy.

But that's BETHESDA. They DESERVE our compassion because they're from here. We don't care about rural folks from Louisiana. It cuts into our manufactured entertainment of making fun of them for their plight in life. Don't stop our fun now with your rational arguments.

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Anonymous wrote:of course her sexual history is fair game. she had 5 kids with no father and lives in a trailer and has had neighbors complain about leaving her kids alone and now they are dead and she is arrested for negligent homicide!

you don't think her decisions have been incredibly irresponsible?

No, her sexual history is not fair game. Yes, leaving her children alone is fair game. Would it have made a difference if she had one sexual partner, five children, and still left them home alone. Would the children be any deader? How, exactly does her sexaul history become relevant.

it is relevant because it is an extreme example of her incredible irresponsibility in life and in decision making.

WEll the moral majority has spoken. So as it is written, so let it be done.

Perhaps memory has deserted me, but I don't remember back when the Bethesda family with the triplets -- their house burned down because they had no smoke detectors -- I believe it was 2009 -- anyway, I don't remember a long discussion of their decision to have triplets, IVF, and so forth, and their other sexual practices. It just didn't seem relevant to their tragedy.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:to the poster who says that 5 children by age 26 is normal outside eastern urban areas of the states, is that really true????

im somewhat willing to listen seeing as when i travel in the midwest people think im my child's grandmother (much better alternative than my other conclusion,which is i just look old).

I lived on the west coast (Orange County, San Diego County, and Los Angeles County) from the ages of 13-30, and I can tell you it was definitely not the "norm" amongst my peers. I had my first child at age 24, and was considered "young".

Oh yes, comparing San Diego, Los Angeles, and Washington DC gives a great perspective on life in rural Louisiana. Yep, that just about covers the whole middle part of the country.

The PP said it was normal outside eastern urban areas. Los Angeles is not an EASTERN urban area.

You must be pretty stupid if comparing Los Angeles and rural Louisiana makes sense to you.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:of course her sexual history is fair game. she had 5 kids with no father and lives in a trailer and has had neighbors complain about leaving her kids alone and now they are dead and she is arrested for negligent homicide!

you don't think her decisions have been incredibly irresponsible?

No, her sexual history is not fair game. Yes, leaving her children alone is fair game. Would it have made a difference if she had one sexual partner, five children, and still left them home alone. Would the children be any deader? How, exactly does her sexaul history become relevant.

it is relevant because it is an extreme example of her incredible irresponsibility in life and in decision making.

I agree with 13:17. Being sexually irresponsible and leaving children home alone are both bad decisions, but independent of each other. Even good parents make bad decisions. We've seen discussions on DCUM about parents leaving their (not legally old enough kids) kids home alone for brief periods. We're just luckynothing happened during that time. The lesson from this story is to make sure proper alarms are in order and to never leave kids who are not mature enough yet, home alone. It could happen to anyone who makes this bad decision. This women happened to have a bad record prior to this happening so she is in more trouble.

There are always going to be mothers and fathers who make suboptimal choices for their children. We owe them more compassion, not less. Think about a time in your life when you made a really stupid decision. Could anyone have talked you out of it then? Pounded it out of you with contempt?

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Anonymous wrote:OK, so what is wrong with these men that they would have unprotected sex with a woman clearly able to get pregnant and then not provide for the children that most certainly would come from these sexual encounters? They were on notice, after dude #1, that she's ready and able to conceive, and not only did they go ahead and have sex with her anyway, they shirked all responsibility and bailed on her, leaving her a single mother. Where is the outrage directed at all of these men for their irresponsibility and poor decision making? That's right, nowhere, because at the end of the day, it's always the women's fault.

Hey, PP I agree with you, however our laws SUCK when it comes to holding a man responsible financially for his children, first and foremost. Then primary care falls into the lap of the mother by default.


And, if this woman has seen that men knock her up and then bail on her, then it comes time to use that brain and stop making babies with these losers.

I get you, but it literally takes two here. And I'm so sick of the women having to bear the brunt of every "bad decision" when it comes to pregnancy and the court of public opinion. Men can just as easily keep it in their pants as women can stop spreading their legs as one vulgar PP noted.

Anonymous wrote:OK, so what is wrong with these men that they would have unprotected sex with a woman clearly able to get pregnant and then not provide for the children that most certainly would come from these sexual encounters? They were on notice, after dude #1, that she's ready and able to conceive, and not only did they go ahead and have sex with her anyway, they shirked all responsibility and bailed on her, leaving her a single mother. Where is the outrage directed at all of these men for their irresponsibility and poor decision making? That's right, nowhere, because at the end of the day, it's always the women's fault.

Hey, PP I agree with you, however our laws SUCK when it comes to holding a man responsible financially for his children, first and foremost. Then primary care falls into the lap of the mother by default.


And, if this woman has seen that men knock her up and then bail on her, then it comes time to use that brain and stop making babies with these losers.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:to the poster who says that 5 children by age 26 is normal outside eastern urban areas of the states, is that really true????

im somewhat willing to listen seeing as when i travel in the midwest people think im my child's grandmother (much better alternative than my other conclusion,which is i just look old).

I lived on the west coast (Orange County, San Diego County, and Los Angeles County) from the ages of 13-30, and I can tell you it was definitely not the "norm" amongst my peers. I had my first child at age 24, and was considered "young".

Oh yes, comparing San Diego, Los Angeles, and Washington DC gives a great perspective on life in rural Louisiana. Yep, that just about covers the whole middle part of the country.

The PP said it was normal outside eastern urban areas. Los Angeles is not an EASTERN urban area.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:to the poster who says that 5 children by age 26 is normal outside eastern urban areas of the states, is that really true????

im somewhat willing to listen seeing as when i travel in the midwest people think im my child's grandmother (much better alternative than my other conclusion,which is i just look old).

I lived on the west coast (Orange County, San Diego County, and Los Angeles County) from the ages of 13-30, and I can tell you it was definitely not the "norm" amongst my peers. I had my first child at age 24, and was considered "young".

Oh yes, comparing San Diego, Los Angeles, and Washington DC gives a great perspective on life in rural Louisiana. Yep, that just about covers the whole middle part of the country.

OK, so what is wrong with these men that they would have unprotected sex with a woman clearly able to get pregnant and then not provide for the children that most certainly would come from these sexual encounters? They were on notice, after dude #1, that she's ready and able to conceive, and not only did they go ahead and have sex with her anyway, they shirked all responsibility and bailed on her, leaving her a single mother. Where is the outrage directed at all of these men for their irresponsibility and poor decision making? That's right, nowhere, because at the end of the day, it's always the women's fault.