Anonymous
03/18/2012 17:54
Subject: Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
It's not fair to show Iranians like this. Iranians are usually very down-to-earth, educated and analytical people. According to the space magazine, 43% of NASA scientists are Iranians. There are bad and good in every walk, why the ugly side is chosen?
Anonymous
03/18/2012 16:29
Subject: Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Anonymous
03/18/2012 16:23
Subject: Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The show is wretched! If I were Iranian, I'd be humiliated.
Do you have any Iranian friends? I love this show because I can relate.
I do not have a ton of Iranian friend, but one of my best friends is iranian and she is NOTHING like the people on the show. She is a professional career woman, unmarried, and financially takes care of her mother and grandparents.
She dresses normally and is very humble. She is extremely intelligent, well read, and has a fasciating story of how her family had to flee iran when the Shah fell.
I'm sorry to break it to you, but I have no friends like the trash on that show. You have friends like that? That says a lot about you.
How old are you both?
Anonymous
03/18/2012 15:49
Subject: Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The show is wretched! If I were Iranian, I'd be humiliated.
Do you have any Iranian friends? I love this show because I can relate.
I do not have a ton of Iranian friend, but one of my best friends is iranian and she is NOTHING like the people on the show. She is a professional career woman, unmarried, and financially takes care of her mother and grandparents.
She dresses normally and is very humble. She is extremely intelligent, well read, and has a fasciating story of how her family had to flee iran when the Shah fell.
I'm sorry to break it to you, but I have no friends like the trash on that show. You have friends like that? That says a lot about you.
To call them trash is a bit to harsh and if anything they are just products of American consumerism.
Anonymous
03/18/2012 15:35
Subject: Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The show is wretched! If I were Iranian, I'd be humiliated.
Do you have any Iranian friends? I love this show because I can relate.
I do not have a ton of Iranian friend, but one of my best friends is iranian and she is NOTHING like the people on the show. She is a professional career woman, unmarried, and financially takes care of her mother and grandparents.
She dresses normally and is very humble. She is extremely intelligent, well read, and has a fasciating story of how her family had to flee iran when the Shah fell.
I'm sorry to break it to you, but I have no friends like the trash on that show. You have friends like that? That says a lot about you.
Anonymous
03/18/2012 14:33
Subject: Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
PP here. Forgot to agree with the PP before me. Funny they couldn't find more attractive cast members. Iranian woman can really be striking.
Anonymous
03/18/2012 14:28
Subject: Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
I'm married to an Iranian. The Iranians in LA are mostly, wealthy and educated. They can be very sophisticated people. But there are also a lot of very materialistic Iranians on the fringe of the uber-wealthy ones who seem like they are always trying to keep-up. They seem, to me, very insecure people who think if they aren't wearing designer or driving a luxury car, they are worthless. They are the types who live in mediocre rented apartments but buy $5000 handbags. These are the ones depicted in the show. Maybe not college educated, trying to make big bucks in real estate, etc. Some do it. Others just hang in. My inlaws are this type- except they are all in car dealerships.
But do you think the educated, sophisticated Iranians would agree to be on a reality show? Of course not! Same for DC Housewives. The actual power players of DC would never agree to something so cheesy. You need to be very insecure and desperate for 15 minutes of fame. The producers sniff these people out to capitalize on their insecurity. That makes good reality TV!
But it is too bad for the Iranians who are educated and sophisticated because too often many Americans have no idea what Iranians are like. They stereotype them as poor or fanatic or from some third world existence. Now middle-america will have a new stereotype: greasy, materialistic and shallow.
But do you think the educated, sophisticated Iranians would agree to be on a reality show? Of course not! Same for DC Housewives. The actual power players of DC would never agree to something so cheesy. You need to be very insecure and desperate for 15 minutes of fame. The producers sniff these people out to capitalize on their insecurity. That makes good reality TV!
But it is too bad for the Iranians who are educated and sophisticated because too often many Americans have no idea what Iranians are like. They stereotype them as poor or fanatic or from some third world existence. Now middle-america will have a new stereotype: greasy, materialistic and shallow.
Anonymous
03/18/2012 13:51
Subject: Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The show is wretched! If I were Iranian, I'd be humiliated.
Do you have any Iranian friends? I love this show because I can relate.
I am Iranian, I think it's kinda like a parody and certainly entertaining (so glad I can be anonymous). I do wish they would have casted some hotter chicks, Persian chicks are super hot, but now I'm stuck with the two ugly ones and GG who is fuckgly. But I do admit, that Reza guy has a EPIC mustache... I find myself starring at it
Anonymous
03/18/2012 13:46
Subject: Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"Bijan Pakzad, generally known simply as bijan: was an Iranian designer of menswear and fragrances. His exclusive boutique on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills was established in 1976. It has been described as "the most expensive store in the world". Bijan was also known for his automobiles. Most notable in his car collection was a yellow Bentley Azure with black interior, as well as a Black Bentley Azure with yellow interior. He was also known to have a black Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren with a customized paint scheme, a yellow Ferrari 430 Spider, a yellow Rolls Royce Drophead coupe, and a Bugatti Veyron, all of which he was known to park outside of his Rodeo Drive boutique. "
Sounds like this guy would have perfect for this show at one time.
But he was not a superficial man. Bijan designed seasonal collections for the most powerful men in the world. He was an extraordinary Man! A connoisseur of quality, perfection and universal design excellence, Bijan was a genius marketer of perception and image for his men’s couture, haute jewelry and a spectrum of award-winning fragrances. His lofty eminence and multi-billion dollar empire as the peerless purveyor of elegance and affluence, was uniquely forged in 1976 on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills, by just three words, ‘by appointment only’, offering him unprecedented access to the greatest wealth in the world. He was a treasure of enormous admiration and remarkable creative brilliance. Do YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO READ A LIST HIS AWARDS & HONORS?
AWARDS & HONORS:
Entrepreneur of the Year Award, Oxford University – 2011
Governor’s Award for Excellence in Fashion – 2010
Key to the City of Beverly Hills – 2010
May 8th declared as “Bijan Day,” City of Beverly Hills – 2010
Design Legend Award, OTIS College of Art & Design – 2010
Life Time Achievement Award, International Organization PAAIA – 2009
Honorary Black Belt Certification, US Martial Arts Federation – 2009
Leadership Honor Roll, George H.W. Bush – 2009
Honorary Doctorate Degree Fine Arts and Science Award, American Liberty University – Class of 2007
Honorary Creative Director Bijan Pakzad, Rolls-Royce Motor Cars – 2007
2006 Hall of Fame, VANITY FAIR Magazine
Persian Man of the Year Award , Persian Award Foundation Canada – 2006
International Packaging Award Finalist for Best Packaging of Bijan with a Twist, HBA Global Expo – 2002
Best Fragrance of the Year Nomination for Bijan with a Twist for Women and Men, The Fragrance Foundation – 2001
Best Fragrance of the Year Nomination for Michael Jordan Cologne, The Fragrance Foundation – 1999
Fragrance of the Year Nominations for DNA Perfume for Women & DNA Fragrance for Men, The Fragrance Foundation – 1996
Creativity Award, Art Direction Magazine – 1995
Ig Noble Prize for DNA Fragrance by Bijan, Harvard University – 1995
Creativity Award , Art Direction Magazine – 1994
Pursuit of Excellence Award for Bijan Fragrances, Bullock’s – 1994
Distinguished Citizen Award of Liberty Bowl, City of Philadelphia – 1993
Creativity Award, Art Direction Magazine – 1993
Aesthetic Appreciation Award for Bijan Designer for Men, City of Los Angeles – 1993
Best Advertising Campaign, Clio Award – 1993
Best Glass Design, Steuben Clear Choice Award – 1993
Creativity Award , Art Direction Magazine – 1992
Best Men’s Fragrance, Harper ’s Bazaar Germany – 1992
Prix de Beaute Award, Art Direction Magazine – 1991
Best Outdoor Advertising , Obie Award – 1991
Best Advertising Campaign, Clio Award – 1990
Creativity Award , Art Direction Magazine – 1990
Best Outdoor Advertising , Obie Award – 1989
Best Advertising Campaign , Clio Award – 1988
Outstanding Achievement Award Mastery of Apparel Design, Marketing & Merchandizing from the School of Human Sciences, Auburn University – 1988
The International Best Dressed List, Bijan Pakzad – 1989
Legend in American Excellence Award for Bijan Fragrances, Saks Fifth Avenue – 1987
Creativity Award, Art Direction Magazine – 1987
Best Packaging Design for Bijan Perfume for Women, The Fragrance Foundation – 1987
Best Packaging Design Nomination for Bijan Fragrance for Men, The Fragrance Foundation – 1987
Fragrance of the Year for Bijan Fragrance for Men, The Fragrance Foundation – 1987
Creativity Award, Art Direction Magazine – 1986
Creativity Award, Art Direction Magazine – 1984
Excellence in Photography Award, American Photography Magazine – 1984
Creativity Award, Art Direction Magazine – 1983
Honorary Citizens Award, City of Florence, Italy – 1983
Creativity Award, Art Direction Magazine – 1982
Honorary Citizens Award, City of Dallas, Texas – 1982
Creativity Award, Art Direction Magazine – 1981
Creativity Award, Art Direction Magazine – 1980
Ooookay, but the why did the poster chose to list characteristics that feed into the program?
There is a big difference btw the superficial and materialistic people who just spend money and the people who love their jobs and are trying hard to be the best one. Yes, Bijan had his exclusive Bijan-designed Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport and ... but it doesn't mean he was a materialistic person. He was not a wealthy man from his childhood, he worked hard and succeeded. Is Bill Gates a supericial and materialistic man?
But this is not the issue. we are here to talk about the show and how much it depicts Iranians. The world is full of migrated Iranians, more than 5 million. And most of them are very successful people. I've heard, according to the space magazine, 43% of NASA scientists are Iranians or The founding president for the Congress of International Neurosurgeons (MASCIN) is an Iranian (Dr. Majid Samii),... wherever you go, you see a successful Iranian. I think the show must represents all the Iranians not just a small group. And I don't know why this group is chosen???!!!
Anonymous
03/18/2012 13:42
Subject: Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:The show is wretched! If I were Iranian, I'd be humiliated.
Do you have any Iranian friends? I love this show because I can relate.
Anonymous
03/18/2012 13:37
Subject: Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:The show is wretched! If I were Iranian, I'd be humiliated.
Only a feeble minded person like yourself would be humiliated by a reality-show.
Anonymous
03/18/2012 13:32
Subject: Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
The show is wretched! If I were Iranian, I'd be humiliated.
Anonymous
03/18/2012 13:14
Subject: Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"Bijan Pakzad, generally known simply as bijan: was an Iranian designer of menswear and fragrances. His exclusive boutique on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills was established in 1976. It has been described as "the most expensive store in the world". Bijan was also known for his automobiles. Most notable in his car collection was a yellow Bentley Azure with black interior, as well as a Black Bentley Azure with yellow interior. He was also known to have a black Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren with a customized paint scheme, a yellow Ferrari 430 Spider, a yellow Rolls Royce Drophead coupe, and a Bugatti Veyron, all of which he was known to park outside of his Rodeo Drive boutique. "
Sounds like this guy would have perfect for this show at one time.
But he was not a superficial man. Bijan designed seasonal collections for the most powerful men in the world. He was an extraordinary Man! A connoisseur of quality, perfection and universal design excellence, Bijan was a genius marketer of perception and image for his men’s couture, haute jewelry and a spectrum of award-winning fragrances. His lofty eminence and multi-billion dollar empire as the peerless purveyor of elegance and affluence, was uniquely forged in 1976 on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills, by just three words, ‘by appointment only’, offering him unprecedented access to the greatest wealth in the world. He was a treasure of enormous admiration and remarkable creative brilliance. Do YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO READ A LIST HIS AWARDS & HONORS?
AWARDS & HONORS:
Entrepreneur of the Year Award, Oxford University – 2011
Governor’s Award for Excellence in Fashion – 2010
Key to the City of Beverly Hills – 2010
May 8th declared as “Bijan Day,” City of Beverly Hills – 2010
Design Legend Award, OTIS College of Art & Design – 2010
Life Time Achievement Award, International Organization PAAIA – 2009
Honorary Black Belt Certification, US Martial Arts Federation – 2009
Leadership Honor Roll, George H.W. Bush – 2009
Honorary Doctorate Degree Fine Arts and Science Award, American Liberty University – Class of 2007
Honorary Creative Director Bijan Pakzad, Rolls-Royce Motor Cars – 2007
2006 Hall of Fame, VANITY FAIR Magazine
Persian Man of the Year Award , Persian Award Foundation Canada – 2006
International Packaging Award Finalist for Best Packaging of Bijan with a Twist, HBA Global Expo – 2002
Best Fragrance of the Year Nomination for Bijan with a Twist for Women and Men, The Fragrance Foundation – 2001
Best Fragrance of the Year Nomination for Michael Jordan Cologne, The Fragrance Foundation – 1999
Fragrance of the Year Nominations for DNA Perfume for Women & DNA Fragrance for Men, The Fragrance Foundation – 1996
Creativity Award, Art Direction Magazine – 1995
Ig Noble Prize for DNA Fragrance by Bijan, Harvard University – 1995
Creativity Award , Art Direction Magazine – 1994
Pursuit of Excellence Award for Bijan Fragrances, Bullock’s – 1994
Distinguished Citizen Award of Liberty Bowl, City of Philadelphia – 1993
Creativity Award, Art Direction Magazine – 1993
Aesthetic Appreciation Award for Bijan Designer for Men, City of Los Angeles – 1993
Best Advertising Campaign, Clio Award – 1993
Best Glass Design, Steuben Clear Choice Award – 1993
Creativity Award , Art Direction Magazine – 1992
Best Men’s Fragrance, Harper ’s Bazaar Germany – 1992
Prix de Beaute Award, Art Direction Magazine – 1991
Best Outdoor Advertising , Obie Award – 1991
Best Advertising Campaign, Clio Award – 1990
Creativity Award , Art Direction Magazine – 1990
Best Outdoor Advertising , Obie Award – 1989
Best Advertising Campaign , Clio Award – 1988
Outstanding Achievement Award Mastery of Apparel Design, Marketing & Merchandizing from the School of Human Sciences, Auburn University – 1988
The International Best Dressed List, Bijan Pakzad – 1989
Legend in American Excellence Award for Bijan Fragrances, Saks Fifth Avenue – 1987
Creativity Award, Art Direction Magazine – 1987
Best Packaging Design for Bijan Perfume for Women, The Fragrance Foundation – 1987
Best Packaging Design Nomination for Bijan Fragrance for Men, The Fragrance Foundation – 1987
Fragrance of the Year for Bijan Fragrance for Men, The Fragrance Foundation – 1987
Creativity Award, Art Direction Magazine – 1986
Creativity Award, Art Direction Magazine – 1984
Excellence in Photography Award, American Photography Magazine – 1984
Creativity Award, Art Direction Magazine – 1983
Honorary Citizens Award, City of Florence, Italy – 1983
Creativity Award, Art Direction Magazine – 1982
Honorary Citizens Award, City of Dallas, Texas – 1982
Creativity Award, Art Direction Magazine – 1981
Creativity Award, Art Direction Magazine – 1980
Ooookay, but the why did the poster chose to list characteristics that feed into the program?
There is a big difference btw the superficial and materialistic people who just spend money and the people who love their jobs and are trying hard to be the best one. Yes, Bijan had his exclusive Bijan-designed Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport and ... but it doesn't mean he was a materialistic person. He was not a wealthy man from his childhood, he worked hard and succeeded. Is Bill Gates a supericial and materialistic man?
Anonymous
03/18/2012 11:51
Subject: Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Anonymous wrote:Back to the show, it comes on tonight I think.
I do not get the Gigi hate. Someone explain. Yes, I know she said that she did not like ugly people but still.
I am glad they are taking the high or lighthearted road on the flirty Muslim and Jewish attraction b/w Mike and Gigi. Is his name Mike? I may have just given him a new name.
Maybe because she said she hates ugly people and ANTS! Ants has to be the trigger, don't you think?I think his name is Mike and hers is GG which was short for a very long Persian name. Despite all the negativity I still think it's good that the shows let's people see that within Iranian society religion is not as important as portrayed, there are muslims, jews, christians, zoroastrian, etc. I thought all of them where bit nuts except that Sammy guy, and then he went and got a tiger for his party...
Anonymous
03/18/2012 11:38
Subject: Shah's of Sunset-thoughts?
Back to the show, it comes on tonight I think.
I do not get the Gigi hate. Someone explain. Yes, I know she said that she did not like ugly people but still.
I am glad they are taking the high or lighthearted road on the flirty Muslim and Jewish attraction b/w Mike and Gigi. Is his name Mike? I may have just given him a new name.
I do not get the Gigi hate. Someone explain. Yes, I know she said that she did not like ugly people but still.
I am glad they are taking the high or lighthearted road on the flirty Muslim and Jewish attraction b/w Mike and Gigi. Is his name Mike? I may have just given him a new name.