Anonymous
Post 02/02/2012 09:18     Subject: is "forcing" middle class families into DCPS basically the recovery strategy?
@22:53. This is when being innovative truly didn't help us. It is like the old coke versus the new coke and we all know how that turned out.

I hope everyone knows I mean the soda brand and not the illegal drug.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2012 05:08     Subject: Re:is "forcing" middle class families into DCPS basically the recovery strategy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
elementary schools east of the park as parents of homogenously wealthy neighborhoods ....


I'm trying to figure out where this is?

I know there are little -pockets- of Capitol Hill that are factually described as "wealthy." ie, 1 percenters. Not upper middle class-ers, but honest to God rich people. The people owning the SFHs right on Logan Circle are probably "wealthy," as the Census or Brookings describes that term. Maybe the people in the penthouses in Penn Quarter (but not the single newly minted lawyer in the studio 7 floors down).

I can't think of a single neighborhood east of RCP that is monolithically wealthy. There are only a couple west of RCP, fyi.

(the definition of wealth and 1% for our area is between $350 and 500K HHI annually)


Colonial Village and Crestwood, my dear. Been in the city long?


Seventeen years, honeybun. Both neighborhoods are dominated by middle class working professionals.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2012 22:53     Subject: is "forcing" middle class families into DCPS basically the recovery strategy?
Anonymous wrote:16:40, another tidbit of information the majority of those affluent blacks of the silver coast sent there children to Woodson and Anacostia High Schools. During their hey day both schools would rival a Wilson, Banneker and Ellington in all aspects. As quiet as it was kept but when DCPS decided to develop specialty schools the equivalent of HQ teachers were lured from Woodson and Anacostia to immediately fill the positions. Remember there was no TFA as a foundation for staffing our schools, it was veteran teachers with stellar career reputations. Will those days ever return.

No, sorry.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2012 22:47     Subject: is "forcing" middle class families into DCPS basically the recovery strategy?
16:40, another tidbit of information the majority of those affluent blacks of the silver coast sent there children to Woodson and Anacostia High Schools. During their hey day both schools would rival a Wilson, Banneker and Ellington in all aspects. As quiet as it was kept but when DCPS decided to develop specialty schools the equivalent of HQ teachers were lured from Woodson and Anacostia to immediately fill the positions. Remember there was no TFA as a foundation for staffing our schools, it was veteran teachers with stellar career reputations.

Will those days ever return.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2012 16:52     Subject: Re:is "forcing" middle class families into DCPS basically the recovery strategy?
Crestwood is actually east of the park (right on the edge, actually), but it is in-bounds for Deal. Most parents send their kids to OOB, charters, or private for elementary, and then to charters, Deal, or private for MS. I don't think anyone sends their kid to Powell (although maybe a few to West).
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2012 16:40     Subject: is "forcing" middle class families into DCPS basically the recovery strategy?
Anonymous wrote:DC has two coasts. Many equate upper 16th Street as the gold coast community. But there's a silver coast which is located within the Branch Avenue community. A large AA population resides in that area. Our current Mayor resides in that area too.
Nice! I knew that that area had a middle/upper middle class neighborhood but I hadn't heard that expression. Thanks for sharing!
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2012 14:14     Subject: is "forcing" middle class families into DCPS basically the recovery strategy?
Just to reiterate. I think the definition of "wealthy" among DCUM readers is probably a bit different than that of your average DC resident.

For the purposes of DCPS and in-boundary, a neighborhood where residents all have a household income > $150k is "wealthy".
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2012 14:11     Subject: Re:is "forcing" middle class families into DCPS basically the recovery strategy?
I'd love to move into Crestwood but can't because it's too expensive. The nearby schools don't get the effect of that wealth because, as it is west of the Park, parents there don't send their kids to West or, especially, Powell.
jsteele
Post 02/01/2012 11:58     Subject: Re:is "forcing" middle class families into DCPS basically the recovery strategy?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
elementary schools east of the park as parents of homogenously wealthy neighborhoods ....


I'm trying to figure out where this is?

I know there are little -pockets- of Capitol Hill that are factually described as "wealthy." ie, 1 percenters. Not upper middle class-ers, but honest to God rich people. The people owning the SFHs right on Logan Circle are probably "wealthy," as the Census or Brookings describes that term. Maybe the people in the penthouses in Penn Quarter (but not the single newly minted lawyer in the studio 7 floors down).

I can't think of a single neighborhood east of RCP that is monolithically wealthy. There are only a couple west of RCP, fyi.

(the definition of wealth and 1% for our area is between $350 and 500K HHI annually)


Maybe Crestwood? (That gorgeous area that stretches down along the eastern border of the park on one side and 16th or so on the east?) I think it's also called DC's "Gold Coast" - very wealthy AA neighborhood. Inbounds school is probably Shepherd or West?



Crestwood has some wealthy people, especially if you include the Rockefellers, but it is certainly not "monolithically wealthy" and I doubt that its average HHI is anywhere close to $350K per year. The inbounds elementary schools are West and Powell.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2012 11:24     Subject: Re:is "forcing" middle class families into DCPS basically the recovery strategy?
Anonymous wrote:
elementary schools east of the park as parents of homogenously wealthy neighborhoods ....


I'm trying to figure out where this is?

I know there are little -pockets- of Capitol Hill that are factually described as "wealthy." ie, 1 percenters. Not upper middle class-ers, but honest to God rich people. The people owning the SFHs right on Logan Circle are probably "wealthy," as the Census or Brookings describes that term. Maybe the people in the penthouses in Penn Quarter (but not the single newly minted lawyer in the studio 7 floors down).

I can't think of a single neighborhood east of RCP that is monolithically wealthy. There are only a couple west of RCP, fyi.

(the definition of wealth and 1% for our area is between $350 and 500K HHI annually)


Colonial Village and Crestwood, my dear. Been in the city long?
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2012 02:44     Subject: is "forcing" middle class families into DCPS basically the recovery strategy?
DC has two coasts. Many equate upper 16th Street as the gold coast community. But there's a silver coast which is located within the Branch Avenue community. A large AA population resides in that area. Our current Mayor resides in that area too.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2012 19:43     Subject: Re:is "forcing" middle class families into DCPS basically the recovery strategy?
Anonymous wrote:...factually described as "wealthy." ie, 1 percenters...


This is the point at which PP veered off into the ether.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2012 18:22     Subject: Re:is "forcing" middle class families into DCPS basically the recovery strategy?
Anonymous wrote:
elementary schools east of the park as parents of homogenously wealthy neighborhoods ....


I'm trying to figure out where this is?

I know there are little -pockets- of Capitol Hill that are factually described as "wealthy." ie, 1 percenters. Not upper middle class-ers, but honest to God rich people. The people owning the SFHs right on Logan Circle are probably "wealthy," as the Census or Brookings describes that term. Maybe the people in the penthouses in Penn Quarter (but not the single newly minted lawyer in the studio 7 floors down).

I can't think of a single neighborhood east of RCP that is monolithically wealthy. There are only a couple west of RCP, fyi.

(the definition of wealth and 1% for our area is between $350 and 500K HHI annually)


Maybe Crestwood? (That gorgeous area that stretches down along the eastern border of the park on one side and 16th or so on the east?) I think it's also called DC's "Gold Coast" - very wealthy AA neighborhood. Inbounds school is probably Shepherd or West?

Anonymous
Post 01/30/2012 17:41     Subject: is "forcing" middle class families into DCPS basically the recovery strategy?
Anonymous wrote:the definition of 1% for the DC area is above $400K. It's closer to $500K HHI. That's a common working definition, this whole 1% thing, maybe you've heard.

If you want to argue that, since some people in Wards 7 and 8 are among the poorest people in the US, therefore everyone the city with a professional, white collar job = "wealthy," that's cool. You can use your own personalized definition that nobody else recognizes.


If you want to point out where PP said there are neighborhood "where residents are homogenously 1-percenters" I'll gladly concede the point. Otherwise, you're just embarrassing yourself.

Yes, given DC's socioeconomic profile as of ten years ago, a household making > $150k is "wealthy".
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2012 17:33     Subject: is "forcing" middle class families into DCPS basically the recovery strategy?
the definition of 1% for the DC area is above $400K. It's closer to $500K HHI. That's a common working definition, this whole 1% thing, maybe you've heard.

If you want to argue that, since some people in Wards 7 and 8 are among the poorest people in the US, therefore everyone the city with a professional, white collar job = "wealthy," that's cool. You can use your own personalized definition that nobody else recognizes.