Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so closeted right wing and racist. But guess what? You’re in the minority in DC. Thank God for that.
Right?? It's shocking. Free DC.
I would be shocked if most of the racist posts about DC are from people who live in DC. Extreme prejudice against DC by suburbanites in this region and neighboring regions has been a defining characteristic of the dynamic of our area since white flight happened.
Well they are coming back.
Right. And I'm part of that and am all for it. My point is that the dynamics of how much people from the suburbs hate DC can't be understood without the overlay of the history of white flight.
When whites leave, it’s “white flight”. When whites return, it’s gentrification. White people can’t do anything right according to you loonies.
My post is not a moral judgment of white flight. My point is that iht starts a dynamic where people who have left have to continually justify it, for generations. There's constant talk of how crazy DC is whenever the topic comes up. It's way over the top. And lots of those types of people are speaking up in this very thread.
For example, when I was a kid, in 1985 in North Arlington, my neighbors who lived half a mile from the DC border never went into the city because it was "so crazy." I've lived in DC since I moved back to the area in 2000, and I can't count the number of people I've talked to from the suburbs who think my very safe neighborhood (if you care about facts and statistics) must be extremely dangerous just because it's in the city. If you're involved in discussion about the perception of this city on a board like this you should acknowledge the pervasive assumption by people in the suburbs that most parts of the District are dangerous, chaotic and not even worth considering living in. That's most of who is speaking up in these conversations. Please don't blame those of us who have built lives here for their constant racist statements.
That “pervasive assumption” is based on facts. Until the literal military was stationed there DC’s murder rate was extremely high compared to other cities.
New York had 391 murders in 2023 and 377 in 2024. DC had 274 and 187 (npi) murders in these two years, respectively. NYC has 8.6 million people, DC has 690,000.
When your city has 117 less murders than another city but 12.4x more people, like in 2023, that is a problem. If DC had NYC’s population and the same murder rate it would have recorded 3,400 murders in 2023. So you’ll have to excuse people who think that a city with that type of murder rate is dangerous.
Oh, just stop already. The murder rate in DC was already declining precipitously before the National Guard arrived. And the only objective study that has come out so far has concluded that the presence of the National Guard has had zero impact on violent crime in the city.
Way to miss the point, which is that DC in incredibly dangerous and would have had 3,400 murders in 2023 if it was as big as NYC.
About the National Guard, what factors would you cite for DC being on track for the lowest murder rate in recorded history this year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC needs to be taken over for the good of all.
"Democracy is bad actually"? Is that where you're going with this?
Democracy is how we got Trump. Is that a good thing?
I know it's a tangent, but Trump's election has done more to make me question our particular version of democracy than anything else in history. Perhaps a parliamentary Democracy is a better option? I think our particular structures / information / education system is broken.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so closeted right wing and racist. But guess what? You’re in the minority in DC. Thank God for that.
Right?? It's shocking. Free DC.
I would be shocked if most of the racist posts about DC are from people who live in DC. Extreme prejudice against DC by suburbanites in this region and neighboring regions has been a defining characteristic of the dynamic of our area since white flight happened.
Well they are coming back.
Right. And I'm part of that and am all for it. My point is that the dynamics of how much people from the suburbs hate DC can't be understood without the overlay of the history of white flight.
When whites leave, it’s “white flight”. When whites return, it’s gentrification. White people can’t do anything right according to you loonies.
My post is not a moral judgment of white flight. My point is that iht starts a dynamic where people who have left have to continually justify it, for generations. There's constant talk of how crazy DC is whenever the topic comes up. It's way over the top. And lots of those types of people are speaking up in this very thread.
For example, when I was a kid, in 1985 in North Arlington, my neighbors who lived half a mile from the DC border never went into the city because it was "so crazy." I've lived in DC since I moved back to the area in 2000, and I can't count the number of people I've talked to from the suburbs who think my very safe neighborhood (if you care about facts and statistics) must be extremely dangerous just because it's in the city. If you're involved in discussion about the perception of this city on a board like this you should acknowledge the pervasive assumption by people in the suburbs that most parts of the District are dangerous, chaotic and not even worth considering living in. That's most of who is speaking up in these conversations. Please don't blame those of us who have built lives here for their constant racist statements.
That “pervasive assumption” is based on facts. Until the literal military was stationed there DC’s murder rate was extremely high compared to other cities.
New York had 391 murders in 2023 and 377 in 2024. DC had 274 and 187 (npi) murders in these two years, respectively. NYC has 8.6 million people, DC has 690,000.
When your city has 117 less murders than another city but 12.4x more people, like in 2023, that is a problem. If DC had NYC’s population and the same murder rate it would have recorded 3,400 murders in 2023. So you’ll have to excuse people who think that a city with that type of murder rate is dangerous.
Oh, just stop already. The murder rate in DC was already declining precipitously before the National Guard arrived. And the only objective study that has come out so far has concluded that the presence of the National Guard has had zero impact on violent crime in the city.
Way to miss the point, which is that DC in incredibly dangerous and would have had 3,400 murders in 2023 if it was as big as NYC.
About the National Guard, what factors would you cite for DC being on track for the lowest murder rate in recorded history this year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so closeted right wing and racist. But guess what? You’re in the minority in DC. Thank God for that.
Right?? It's shocking. Free DC.
I would be shocked if most of the racist posts about DC are from people who live in DC. Extreme prejudice against DC by suburbanites in this region and neighboring regions has been a defining characteristic of the dynamic of our area since white flight happened.
Well they are coming back.
Right. And I'm part of that and am all for it. My point is that the dynamics of how much people from the suburbs hate DC can't be understood without the overlay of the history of white flight.
When whites leave, it’s “white flight”. When whites return, it’s gentrification. White people can’t do anything right according to you loonies.
My post is not a moral judgment of white flight. My point is that iht starts a dynamic where people who have left have to continually justify it, for generations. There's constant talk of how crazy DC is whenever the topic comes up. It's way over the top. And lots of those types of people are speaking up in this very thread.
For example, when I was a kid, in 1985 in North Arlington, my neighbors who lived half a mile from the DC border never went into the city because it was "so crazy." I've lived in DC since I moved back to the area in 2000, and I can't count the number of people I've talked to from the suburbs who think my very safe neighborhood (if you care about facts and statistics) must be extremely dangerous just because it's in the city. If you're involved in discussion about the perception of this city on a board like this you should acknowledge the pervasive assumption by people in the suburbs that most parts of the District are dangerous, chaotic and not even worth considering living in. That's most of who is speaking up in these conversations. Please don't blame those of us who have built lives here for their constant racist statements.
That “pervasive assumption” is based on facts. Until the literal military was stationed there DC’s murder rate was extremely high compared to other cities.
New York had 391 murders in 2023 and 377 in 2024. DC had 274 and 187 (npi) murders in these two years, respectively. NYC has 8.6 million people, DC has 690,000.
When your city has 117 less murders than another city but 12.4x more people, like in 2023, that is a problem. If DC had NYC’s population and the same murder rate it would have recorded 3,400 murders in 2023. So you’ll have to excuse people who think that a city with that type of murder rate is dangerous.
Oh, just stop already. The murder rate in DC was already declining precipitously before the National Guard arrived. And the only objective study that has come out so far has concluded that the presence of the National Guard has had zero impact on violent crime in the city.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so closeted right wing and racist. But guess what? You’re in the minority in DC. Thank God for that.
Right?? It's shocking. Free DC.
I would be shocked if most of the racist posts about DC are from people who live in DC. Extreme prejudice against DC by suburbanites in this region and neighboring regions has been a defining characteristic of the dynamic of our area since white flight happened.
Well they are coming back.
Right. And I'm part of that and am all for it. My point is that the dynamics of how much people from the suburbs hate DC can't be understood without the overlay of the history of white flight.
When whites leave, it’s “white flight”. When whites return, it’s gentrification. White people can’t do anything right according to you loonies.
My post is not a moral judgment of white flight. My point is that iht starts a dynamic where people who have left have to continually justify it, for generations. There's constant talk of how crazy DC is whenever the topic comes up. It's way over the top. And lots of those types of people are speaking up in this very thread.
For example, when I was a kid, in 1985 in North Arlington, my neighbors who lived half a mile from the DC border never went into the city because it was "so crazy." I've lived in DC since I moved back to the area in 2000, and I can't count the number of people I've talked to from the suburbs who think my very safe neighborhood (if you care about facts and statistics) must be extremely dangerous just because it's in the city. If you're involved in discussion about the perception of this city on a board like this you should acknowledge the pervasive assumption by people in the suburbs that most parts of the District are dangerous, chaotic and not even worth considering living in. That's most of who is speaking up in these conversations. Please don't blame those of us who have built lives here for their constant racist statements.
That “pervasive assumption” is based on facts. Until the literal military was stationed there DC’s murder rate was extremely high compared to other cities.
New York had 391 murders in 2023 and 377 in 2024. DC had 274 and 187 (npi) murders in these two years, respectively. NYC has 8.6 million people, DC has 690,000.
When your city has 117 less murders than another city but 12.4x more people, like in 2023, that is a problem. If DC had NYC’s population and the same murder rate it would have recorded 3,400 murders in 2023. So you’ll have to excuse people who think that a city with that type of murder rate is dangerous.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so closeted right wing and racist. But guess what? You’re in the minority in DC. Thank God for that.
Right?? It's shocking. Free DC.
I would be shocked if most of the racist posts about DC are from people who live in DC. Extreme prejudice against DC by suburbanites in this region and neighboring regions has been a defining characteristic of the dynamic of our area since white flight happened.
Well they are coming back.
Right. And I'm part of that and am all for it. My point is that the dynamics of how much people from the suburbs hate DC can't be understood without the overlay of the history of white flight.
When whites leave, it’s “white flight”. When whites return, it’s gentrification. White people can’t do anything right according to you loonies.
My post is not a moral judgment of white flight. My point is that iht starts a dynamic where people who have left have to continually justify it, for generations. There's constant talk of how crazy DC is whenever the topic comes up. It's way over the top. And lots of those types of people are speaking up in this very thread.
For example, when I was a kid, in 1985 in North Arlington, my neighbors who lived half a mile from the DC border never went into the city because it was "so crazy." I've lived in DC since I moved back to the area in 2000, and I can't count the number of people I've talked to from the suburbs who think my very safe neighborhood (if you care about facts and statistics) must be extremely dangerous just because it's in the city. If you're involved in discussion about the perception of this city on a board like this you should acknowledge the pervasive assumption by people in the suburbs that most parts of the District are dangerous, chaotic and not even worth considering living in. That's most of who is speaking up in these conversations. Please don't blame those of us who have built lives here for their constant racist statements.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so closeted right wing and racist. But guess what? You’re in the minority in DC. Thank God for that.
Right?? It's shocking. Free DC.
I would be shocked if most of the racist posts about DC are from people who live in DC. Extreme prejudice against DC by suburbanites in this region and neighboring regions has been a defining characteristic of the dynamic of our area since white flight happened.
Well they are coming back.
Right. And I'm part of that and am all for it. My point is that the dynamics of how much people from the suburbs hate DC can't be understood without the overlay of the history of white flight.
When whites leave, it’s “white flight”. When whites return, it’s gentrification. White people can’t do anything right according to you loonies.
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, though I loathe Trump, I wouldn't be all that upset with a fed takeover if the FreeDC slate wins the mayor's race and the majority of the counsel. I'd rather see a fed takeover than the policies that crowd is going to try to impose in terms of out of control spending, tax hikes, no understanding of basic business economics and extremely soft-on-crime policies. It was the control board in the 1990s that produced us Tony Williams, who was the best mayor that DC has had. The key difference though, is that the Control Board occurred during the Clinton Administration and the appointed Control Board was highly qualified. I don't have much faith in the ability of the Trump administration to appoint anyone qualified to deal with the District. We are screwed either way.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so closeted right wing and racist. But guess what? You’re in the minority in DC. Thank God for that.
Right?? It's shocking. Free DC.
I would be shocked if most of the racist posts about DC are from people who live in DC. Extreme prejudice against DC by suburbanites in this region and neighboring regions has been a defining characteristic of the dynamic of our area since white flight happened.
Well they are coming back.
Right. And I'm part of that and am all for it. My point is that the dynamics of how much people from the suburbs hate DC can't be understood without the overlay of the history of white flight.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so closeted right wing and racist. But guess what? You’re in the minority in DC. Thank God for that.
Right?? It's shocking. Free DC.
I would be shocked if most of the racist posts about DC are from people who live in DC. Extreme prejudice against DC by suburbanites in this region and neighboring regions has been a defining characteristic of the dynamic of our area since white flight happened.
Well they are coming back.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so closeted right wing and racist. But guess what? You’re in the minority in DC. Thank God for that.
Right?? It's shocking. Free DC.
I would be shocked if most of the racist posts about DC are from people who live in DC. Extreme prejudice against DC by suburbanites in this region and neighboring regions has been a defining characteristic of the dynamic of our area since white flight happened.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DC needs to be taken over for the good of all.
"Democracy is bad actually"? Is that where you're going with this?
Democracy is how we got Trump. Is that a good thing?