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Anonymous wrote:Mayim Biyalik is a nut job.

She has a PhD in neuroscience from UCLA.

and her bastardization of "attachment theory" should have gotten it revoked.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it fascinating how over the top the reactions are to this. Like OP has insulted your mother and you must come to her defense. So much anger and disdain. It's weird.

Oh hey OP. Glad to see you're back.

I consider it infinitely weirder to post for the 247th time about something that doesn't concern you at all. Thanks!

How does this concern you?

I have been taking Ozempic for five years now. Very few side effects, monitored by my doctor, brought my cholesterol, triglycerides, A1C and BP back down to normal. Any other questions I can answer for you?

How nice. But you're not the only one allowed to comment or discuss.

Did I preclude anyone from commenting? Comment away and I'll say what I want to say in response.

How does someone talking about Mayim's experience concern you? It doesn't. So get used to seeing posts like this.

No, I don't think I will. I will point out how dumb and idiotic it is each and every time I see posts like this. Get used to it.

Oh, I will. I enjoy these threads and how worked up you get.

I defend drugs with pesky facts. It doesn't matter if I've used them or not. Drugs are great. This one has extended and improved millions of lives world wide over two decades. #winning

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, maybe I'm older than most of y'all, but in decades past, the horror stories were always out there about weight loss drugs. Because of the old drugs, I will not take any of the new drugs.

Would you take a two-decade old diabetes drug? What about a new diabetes drug? These weren't even developed for weight loss. Weight loss was discovered after those taking it for diabetes were dropping weight.

And thus I, who does not have diabetes, would rather wait until it's been used safely on people like me for that period of time at the weight loss dosage.

Same. I'm not overweight nor diabetic and have no need to be a guinea pig. Would be nice if there was a wonder drug, but there's a lot we don't know yet about long term usage.

Many of these people are finally skinny "effortlessly", they will withstand nausea, vomiting, sulphur burps, diarrhea, etc, etc. You can't pry that needle or pill from their bony little hands. The overseeing entity (usda?) will have to issue a ban on these drugs for their population and remove them to get them to stop....unless gastric cancers or dehydration/heart issues stops them first. See also: fen phen.

Not only the drugs but the gastric bypass and bands didn't work either. Bodies adapt and we'll likely see this with the drugs over time. Then we'll be on to the next craze.

My friend got a gastric sleeve in Tijuana. She lost 20 pounds in the first 3 months. She began consuming milk shakes, ice cream and other calorie laden foods which overrode her surgery. Within a year of her surgery, she basically stretched her stomach back out (or something), resumed her previous overeating habits, regained the weight lost and added 20 pounds more. Moral: people will do anything, other than address the core reasons for their overeating (which is evidenced by their relentless "food noise") to lose weight. Sadly, without significant habit changes, lifestyle changes and psychological growth, the WEIGHT ALWAYS COMES BACK.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, maybe I'm older than most of y'all, but in decades past, the horror stories were always out there about weight loss drugs. Because of the old drugs, I will not take any of the new drugs.

Would you take a two-decade old diabetes drug? What about a new diabetes drug? These weren't even developed for weight loss. Weight loss was discovered after those taking it for diabetes were dropping weight.

And thus I, who does not have diabetes, would rather wait until it's been used safely on people like me for that period of time at the weight loss dosage.

Same. I'm not overweight nor diabetic and have no need to be a guinea pig. Would be nice if there was a wonder drug, but there's a lot we don't know yet about long term usage.

Many of these people are finally skinny "effortlessly", they will withstand nausea, vomiting, sulphur burps, diarrhea, etc, etc. You can't pry that needle or pill from their bony little hands. The overseeing entity (usda?) will have to issue a ban on these drugs for their population and remove them to get them to stop....unless gastric cancers or dehydration/heart issues stops them first. See also: fen phen.

I wonder if there are drugs that can help you with your character defect? Your distain for people using medication to get thin is remarkably disordered thinking.

It's disdain, not distain. I thought people were using the drugs to get healthy, not just thin. I guess you exposed that lie.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, maybe I'm older than most of y'all, but in decades past, the horror stories were always out there about weight loss drugs. Because of the old drugs, I will not take any of the new drugs.

Would you take a two-decade old diabetes drug? What about a new diabetes drug? These weren't even developed for weight loss. Weight loss was discovered after those taking it for diabetes were dropping weight.

And thus I, who does not have diabetes, would rather wait until it's been used safely on people like me for that period of time at the weight loss dosage.

Same. I'm not overweight nor diabetic and have no need to be a guinea pig. Would be nice if there was a wonder drug, but there's a lot we don't know yet about long term usage.

Many of these people are finally skinny "effortlessly", they will withstand nausea, vomiting, sulphur burps, diarrhea, etc, etc. You can't pry that needle or pill from their bony little hands. The overseeing entity (usda?) will have to issue a ban on these drugs for their population and remove them to get them to stop....unless gastric cancers or dehydration/heart issues stops them first. See also: fen phen.

Not only the drugs but the gastric bypass and bands didn't work either. Bodies adapt and we'll likely see this with the drugs over time. Then we'll be on to the next craze.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, maybe I'm older than most of y'all, but in decades past, the horror stories were always out there about weight loss drugs. Because of the old drugs, I will not take any of the new drugs.

Would you take a two-decade old diabetes drug? What about a new diabetes drug? These weren't even developed for weight loss. Weight loss was discovered after those taking it for diabetes were dropping weight.

And thus I, who does not have diabetes, would rather wait until it's been used safely on people like me for that period of time at the weight loss dosage.

Same. I'm not overweight nor diabetic and have no need to be a guinea pig. Would be nice if there was a wonder drug, but there's a lot we don't know yet about long term usage.

Many of these people are finally skinny "effortlessly", they will withstand nausea, vomiting, sulphur burps, diarrhea, etc, etc. You can't pry that needle or pill from their bony little hands. The overseeing entity (usda?) will have to issue a ban on these drugs for their population and remove them to get them to stop....unless gastric cancers or dehydration/heart issues stops them first. See also: fen phen.

I wonder if there are drugs that can help you with your character defect? Your distain for people using medication to get thin is remarkably disordered thinking.

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Anonymous wrote:Mayim Biyalik is a nut job.

She has a PhD in neuroscience from UCLA.

Who isn't practicing in her field and endorses dubious "brain health" supplements. So what?

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, maybe I'm older than most of y'all, but in decades past, the horror stories were always out there about weight loss drugs. Because of the old drugs, I will not take any of the new drugs.

Would you take a two-decade old diabetes drug? What about a new diabetes drug? These weren't even developed for weight loss. Weight loss was discovered after those taking it for diabetes were dropping weight.

And thus I, who does not have diabetes, would rather wait until it's been used safely on people like me for that period of time at the weight loss dosage.

Same. I'm not overweight nor diabetic and have no need to be a guinea pig. Would be nice if there was a wonder drug, but there's a lot we don't know yet about long term usage.

Many of these people are finally skinny "effortlessly", they will withstand nausea, vomiting, sulphur burps, diarrhea, etc, etc. You can't pry that needle or pill from their bony little hands. The overseeing entity (usda?) will have to issue a ban on these drugs for their population and remove them to get them to stop....unless gastric cancers or dehydration/heart issues stops them first. See also: fen phen.

These drugs have been in use for 20 years and FDA approved for the last 12. There's no evidence of your claim. What there is evidence of is actually that these drugs may reduce cancer risk.

https://www.cancer.columbia.edu/news/glp-1-weight-loss-drugs-and-cancer-there-link

Cancer survivor here and I am SUPER excited about the possibility of these drugs as a cancer fighting mechanism. But just to clarify your statement a little, while the drugs have been in use for a while, that was for obese and diabetic patients. The studies suggesting a potential reduction in cancer risk are retrospective and relate to obese / diabetic patients. In that light, the studies aren't that earth-shattering; we already know that obesity increases cancer risk, so it makes sense that someone's risk would go down when they lose weight. There is no evidence (so far!) that these drugs will lessen the risk of cancer / risk of cancer recurrence in a person who is neither obese nor diabetic. But, I think we can expect clinical trials to get underway soon.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, maybe I'm older than most of y'all, but in decades past, the horror stories were always out there about weight loss drugs. Because of the old drugs, I will not take any of the new drugs.

Would you take a two-decade old diabetes drug? What about a new diabetes drug? These weren't even developed for weight loss. Weight loss was discovered after those taking it for diabetes were dropping weight.

And thus I, who does not have diabetes, would rather wait until it's been used safely on people like me for that period of time at the weight loss dosage.

Same. I'm not overweight nor diabetic and have no need to be a guinea pig. Would be nice if there was a wonder drug, but there's a lot we don't know yet about long term usage.

Many of these people are finally skinny "effortlessly", they will withstand nausea, vomiting, sulphur burps, diarrhea, etc, etc. You can't pry that needle or pill from their bony little hands. The overseeing entity (usda?) will have to issue a ban on these drugs for their population and remove them to get them to stop....unless gastric cancers or dehydration/heart issues stops them first. See also: fen phen.

These drugs have been in use for 20 years and FDA approved for the last 12. There's no evidence of your claim. What there is evidence of is actually that these drugs may reduce cancer risk.

https://www.cancer.columbia.edu/news/glp-1-weight-loss-drugs-and-cancer-there-link

Anonymous wrote:Mayim Biyalik is a nut job.

She has a PhD in neuroscience from UCLA.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean, maybe I'm older than most of y'all, but in decades past, the horror stories were always out there about weight loss drugs. Because of the old drugs, I will not take any of the new drugs.

Would you take a two-decade old diabetes drug? What about a new diabetes drug? These weren't even developed for weight loss. Weight loss was discovered after those taking it for diabetes were dropping weight.

And thus I, who does not have diabetes, would rather wait until it's been used safely on people like me for that period of time at the weight loss dosage.

Same. I'm not overweight nor diabetic and have no need to be a guinea pig. Would be nice if there was a wonder drug, but there's a lot we don't know yet about long term usage.

Many of these people are finally skinny "effortlessly", they will withstand nausea, vomiting, sulphur burps, diarrhea, etc, etc. You can't pry that needle or pill from their bony little hands. The overseeing entity (usda?) will have to issue a ban on these drugs for their population and remove them to get them to stop....unless gastric cancers or dehydration/heart issues stops them first. See also: fen phen.

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh. I already have bowel incontinence from ibs when I’m about to get my period and if I drink coffee or eat too much fiber. Like fruit or veg. It’s no fun. It has happened at work. I practically had to make a stealthy escape with no underwear. No fun. I do have prediabetes but only take metformin. I can’t imagine getting worse in the bowels department.

Have you had your pancreas scanned? I know someone who had these symptoms and her doctor called it IBS when it was actually pancreatic cancer.

No but I have had an endoscopy and colonoscopy and both were clear. It does seem to correlate with my period and coffee, but now I’ve got this on my radar. Thank you, will look into it but my blood tests have been fine.

You don’t have pancreatic cancer. If you were having symptoms for a long time, you would already be dead by now. Many people have vague symptoms or even no symptoms by the time they are diagnosed. The ones who do start showing symptoms are usually gone by 6 months. Your bowel issues are correlated with your period, which is actually quite normal.

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Anonymous wrote:First she's a nut job and second this is true of all meds. Some people don't tolerate certain drugs. Nothing to see here.

Exactly. The page of small prints comes with every medication? It lists every bad reaction happened to someone, even if it was less than one in a million. Should we ban all medications?

I don't think anyone is saying ban, just weigh the risks.

So, you mean, consult with your physician before starting a medication (which has to be prescribed by a doctor)?

Well yeah, if it's a real consult, where if your doctor tells you that your labs are good and you don't need the medication, you're willing to accept that.

Interestingly, it was my NP who brought it up to me at 2 different annual physicals 1 year apart. My bmi was like 25.5 and only going up.

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Anonymous wrote:Let me guess, OP, you're someone who has never struggled with weight and will take any opportunity to shame people who are overweight?

Mayim was NEVER overweight. Plus she’s a character actress. GLPs were never going to make her a Johansson. Why would she bother?

Because she’s a nut job who is friends with Bari Weiss.

Sadly Zepbound didn’t work well for me. I only lost 10 pounds, and the side effects were too significant to go up in dosage. I regained the 10 pounds fairly soon after stopping.

It’s a strange drug.