Anonymous
05/13/2026 10:12
Subject: What are the list of MCPS positions set to be laid off (assuming the budget cuts go through)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MCPS needs to cut language immersion & programming like that.
Focus on the basics
Trade programs
College tracking
gifted programming
Special education
General populace & education
This would not save any money. Immersion teachers do not get paid more than a regular elementary teacher. And the students still need to be in school, so they would just be in an English speaking class instead. Absolutely no impact on the budget.
Yes it would save money. Immersion programs have a different extra sets of curriculums, extra staff hiring goes into finding dual language teachers, there are central office positions that have to support those schools. Most of the kids in the programs, struggle with the language, parents sign up because they don't want their kids to be in a highly concentrated Latino school.
Oh you again. Just go away- I'm sorry your kids didn't get in but don't assume your reason for applying to language immersion is the same as everyone else's. (FWIW, we deliberatebly bought a house in bounds for a dual immersion school, which gasp, has a decent percentage of Latino students, because learning a foreign language is important to our family. sorry if that's a weird concept for you!)
This is true. They should have it for Spanish speaker only kids and make Spanish a special for all other kids.
Maybe we should start evaluating the need for language instruction at all in public schools- how many students can actually converse in the language upon gradation? And what is the need when the rest of the world learns English already? That's a lot of money that could be spent elsewhere.
Likewise, math needs to go. We have calculators.
And English is only needed through 8th grade at most, at which point you are literate enough to use ChatGPT.
Not PP, but to me one of the differences is that math and ELA are taught from the beginning of school and built upon. Unless they are in an immersion program, most students do not have the opportunity to learn a foreign language in ES, when it would be most effective. By not starting until late MS or even HS in some districts, it feels performative rather than a real attempt to teach a skill.
Anonymous
05/13/2026 10:08
Subject: What are the list of MCPS positions set to be laid off (assuming the budget cuts go through)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Instead of opening new schools when the population is going down, they should be closing some underutilized elementary and middle schools. Shutting down a few of these would solve the whole budget issue.
You do understand that populations in a lot of these communities are very cyclical. The Montgomery Village schools are all facing massive low enrollment because many of the homes in the Village were bought in the late 80s/Early 90s and those people still live in those homes without children. In the 90s, Halloween used to be an event where the whole village essentially was shut down due to massive trick or treating participation. Now we are lucky to get 3 kids the entire night in our extremely walkable neighborhood. These older, childless households won't stay there forever. The Village will likely see a massive housing spike in the next 5-10 years as these homes all turnover. Whether housing prices stay at a level where families can afford them is a different question though.
Right- this was what happened in my neighborhood. Enrollement in the local ES declined as families aged and MCPS closed the school, but then when the neighborhood, and other nearby neighborhoods, started turning over, the consolidated ES they were now all attending became overcrowded and there were portables for years until a new ES was built (FWIW, the previously closed ES is still owned by the county, but leased out to other entities). I think there has too often been a knee jerk reaction to declining enrollment and not enough foresight as to how patterns will change again a few years down the road.
Anonymous
05/13/2026 09:51
Subject: What are the list of MCPS positions set to be laid off (assuming the budget cuts go through)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MCPS needs to cut language immersion & programming like that.
Focus on the basics
Trade programs
College tracking
gifted programming
Special education
General populace & education
This would not save any money. Immersion teachers do not get paid more than a regular elementary teacher. And the students still need to be in school, so they would just be in an English speaking class instead. Absolutely no impact on the budget.
Yes it would save money. Immersion programs have a different extra sets of curriculums, extra staff hiring goes into finding dual language teachers, there are central office positions that have to support those schools. Most of the kids in the programs, struggle with the language, parents sign up because they don't want their kids to be in a highly concentrated Latino school.
Oh you again. Just go away- I'm sorry your kids didn't get in but don't assume your reason for applying to language immersion is the same as everyone else's. (FWIW, we deliberatebly bought a house in bounds for a dual immersion school, which gasp, has a decent percentage of Latino students, because learning a foreign language is important to our family. sorry if that's a weird concept for you!)
This is true. They should have it for Spanish speaker only kids and make Spanish a special for all other kids.
Maybe we should start evaluating the need for language instruction at all in public schools- how many students can actually converse in the language upon gradation? And what is the need when the rest of the world learns English already? That's a lot of money that could be spent elsewhere.
Likewise, math needs to go. We have calculators.
And English is only needed through 8th grade at most, at which point you are literate enough to use ChatGPT.
I know you joke but you aren't exactly wrong. After middle school, our entire educational model should be changed to be career focused. We don't need to create well rounded students anymore. We desperately need to create specialized workers for a changing economy and workforce. College should be limited to only very essential programs such as law and medicine. Most other majors should be eliminated and replaced with OJT seeing how like 90% of entry level jobs will train you to do things a specific way that is often counter productive to what you learned in college.
Anonymous
05/13/2026 09:46
Subject: What are the list of MCPS positions set to be laid off (assuming the budget cuts go through)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MCPS needs to cut language immersion & programming like that.
Focus on the basics
Trade programs
College tracking
gifted programming
Special education
General populace & education
This would not save any money. Immersion teachers do not get paid more than a regular elementary teacher. And the students still need to be in school, so they would just be in an English speaking class instead. Absolutely no impact on the budget.
Yes it would save money. Immersion programs have a different extra sets of curriculums, extra staff hiring goes into finding dual language teachers, there are central office positions that have to support those schools. Most of the kids in the programs, struggle with the language, parents sign up because they don't want their kids to be in a highly concentrated Latino school.
Oh you again. Just go away- I'm sorry your kids didn't get in but don't assume your reason for applying to language immersion is the same as everyone else's. (FWIW, we deliberatebly bought a house in bounds for a dual immersion school, which gasp, has a decent percentage of Latino students, because learning a foreign language is important to our family. sorry if that's a weird concept for you!)
This is true. They should have it for Spanish speaker only kids and make Spanish a special for all other kids.
Maybe we should start evaluating the need for language instruction at all in public schools- how many students can actually converse in the language upon gradation? And what is the need when the rest of the world learns English already? That's a lot of money that could be spent elsewhere.
Likewise, math needs to go. We have calculators.
And English is only needed through 8th grade at most, at which point you are literate enough to use ChatGPT.
Anonymous
05/13/2026 09:40
Subject: What are the list of MCPS positions set to be laid off (assuming the budget cuts go through)?
Anonymous wrote:Instead of opening new schools when the population is going down, they should be closing some underutilized elementary and middle schools. Shutting down a few of these would solve the whole budget issue.
You do understand that populations in a lot of these communities are very cyclical. The Montgomery Village schools are all facing massive low enrollment because many of the homes in the Village were bought in the late 80s/Early 90s and those people still live in those homes without children. In the 90s, Halloween used to be an event where the whole village essentially was shut down due to massive trick or treating participation. Now we are lucky to get 3 kids the entire night in our extremely walkable neighborhood. These older, childless households won't stay there forever. The Village will likely see a massive housing spike in the next 5-10 years as these homes all turnover. Whether housing prices stay at a level where families can afford them is a different question though.
Anonymous
05/13/2026 09:31
Subject: What are the list of MCPS positions set to be laid off (assuming the budget cuts go through)?
Anonymous wrote:Instead of opening new schools when the population is going down, they should be closing some underutilized elementary and middle schools. Shutting down a few of these would solve the whole budget issue.
Which ones?
Anonymous
05/13/2026 09:19
Subject: What are the list of MCPS positions set to be laid off (assuming the budget cuts go through)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where do you see 220 MS teachers being cut, I don’t see that on the linked document. Can anyone verify this?
I also don’t see any MS teachers on the list.
It's on page 4. Why middle school is my question...we barely have enough staff as it is right now. If they are pre-cutting electives for 2027's math disaster, people need to start getting angry. We are just gutting education at this point. People making the decisions aren't the ones in classrooms. Cutting electives in middle school is the worst idea-we need more electives, not less. So many kids have stated that their favorite elective whether it be band, dance, music,tech, or theatre is the ONLY reason they go to school. I'm a counselor not a teacher, but from what I see/hear from students on a daily basis, this would absolutely negatively affect them. This is all for 15 additional minutes of math a day, which the state apparently thinks is super easy to implement without giving a second thought to how it would drastically alter scheduling for middle schools/hs and thus,cutting arts programs and electives for those 15 minutes of math that kids are probably already tuned out because their attention spans won't allow for it. Disgraceful.
+10000
I’m just a parent (and former banc kid) but cutting music or similar for pre-teens sound like one of the most destructive choices you could make.
And I have a hard time believing that making math class 15 minutes longer would help scores at all, when targeted interventions, extra hw, or better textbooks might.
Anonymous
05/13/2026 09:09
Subject: What are the list of MCPS positions set to be laid off (assuming the budget cuts go through)?
Instead of opening new schools when the population is going down, they should be closing some underutilized elementary and middle schools. Shutting down a few of these would solve the whole budget issue.
Anonymous
05/13/2026 09:03
Subject: What are the list of MCPS positions set to be laid off (assuming the budget cuts go through)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am confused by the Principal, School Business Administrator, and Athletic Director positions for Crown. Is it because these positions will be taken over by Wootton? If so, shouldn’t there be more Crown positions?
Those were the only ones set to be hired the year before opening, which is the budget year in question. But yes, now that there will be no Crown, there is no need for those positions this coming year.
No. MCPS is hiring a principal, AD and admin secretary for Woodward by July 1.
Because Woodward is opening as a new school. Crown is not.
Anonymous
05/13/2026 09:02
Subject: What are the list of MCPS positions set to be laid off (assuming the budget cuts go through)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MCPS needs to cut language immersion & programming like that.
Focus on the basics
Trade programs
College tracking
gifted programming
Special education
General populace & education
This would not save any money. Immersion teachers do not get paid more than a regular elementary teacher. And the students still need to be in school, so they would just be in an English speaking class instead. Absolutely no impact on the budget.
Yes it would save money. Immersion programs have a different extra sets of curriculums, extra staff hiring goes into finding dual language teachers, there are central office positions that have to support those schools. Most of the kids in the programs, struggle with the language, parents sign up because they don't want their kids to be in a highly concentrated Latino school.
Oh you again. Just go away- I'm sorry your kids didn't get in but don't assume your reason for applying to language immersion is the same as everyone else's. (FWIW, we deliberatebly bought a house in bounds for a dual immersion school, which gasp, has a decent percentage of Latino students, because learning a foreign language is important to our family. sorry if that's a weird concept for you!)
This is true. They should have it for Spanish speaker only kids and make Spanish a special for all other kids.
Maybe we should start evaluating the need for language instruction at all in public schools- how many students can actually converse in the language upon gradation? And what is the need when the rest of the world learns English already? That's a lot of money that could be spent elsewhere.
Anonymous
05/13/2026 08:58
Subject: What are the list of MCPS positions set to be laid off (assuming the budget cuts go through)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This has been said sooo many times, but it’s obvious that central office positions should be the top priority when making these cuts. Are some positions necessary? Yes. Are the majority? Absolutely not.
Central Office only has a few hundred positions even available to cut from. There's no way they can take all of the 850+ job cuts from there. Yes, they are wasteful, and they should probably cut more than the 30ish Central Office positions currently on the list, but they can probably feasibly only cut 100 or so more max, possibly less.
Considering CO staff make a lot more than media assitants, for starters, the relative cost savings per position would go a lot further. I totally get that not all of the job cuts could be from CO, but it really doesn't feel like they made a good faith effort there with only 30. They should be making every effort to minimize the impacts to students.
Anonymous
05/13/2026 07:54
Subject: What are the list of MCPS positions set to be laid off (assuming the budget cuts go through)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Where do you see 220 MS teachers being cut, I don’t see that on the linked document. Can anyone verify this?
I also don’t see any MS teachers on the list.
It's on page 4. Why middle school is my question...we barely have enough staff as it is right now. If they are pre-cutting electives for 2027's math disaster, people need to start getting angry. We are just gutting education at this point. People making the decisions aren't the ones in classrooms. Cutting electives in middle school is the worst idea-we need more electives, not less. So many kids have stated that their favorite elective whether it be band, dance, music,tech, or theatre is the ONLY reason they go to school. I'm a counselor not a teacher, but from what I see/hear from students on a daily basis, this would absolutely negatively affect them. This is all for 15 additional minutes of math a day, which the state apparently thinks is super easy to implement without giving a second thought to how it would drastically alter scheduling for middle schools/hs and thus,cutting arts programs and electives for those 15 minutes of math that kids are probably already tuned out because their attention spans won't allow for it. Disgraceful.
They are only cutting electives for the rich schools. The rest of our schools never had much in the first place. But, what little we do have is getting cut.
Anonymous
05/13/2026 07:52
Subject: Re:What are the list of MCPS positions set to be laid off (assuming the budget cuts go through)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Adam Pagnucco with the e-mails and links: https://montgomeryperspective.com/2026/05/12/taylor-to-council-please-dont-do-this/
Taylor went after the most vulnerable student cohorts with his cuts - special education and immigrant students who are learning English. Middle schools are taking a hit too.
Wouldn't it be great if Taylor took a symbolic hit on his own salary, say, $60K, to save some lower-paid position?
I agree that he went after the most vulnerable, but the financial problem is that the most vulnerable populations are a greater portion of the whole than they have ever been. 20% of all students are English language learners and 15% receive special education services. It’s very expensive.
Newsflash: TT himself said that 90% of budget is personnel. Understand that most organizations personnel is ~60-80% of budget, and when orgs reach that threshold, it is serious time for layoffs. So don't go blaming our vulnerable.
This is my work. Of course I’m not blaming kids. But the reason it is so expensive *is* the personnel. Students learning English and students in special education need smaller groups and more one on one attention, which means more staff.
He said more sped staff last year and did a quick change this year.
Anonymous
05/13/2026 07:51
Subject: What are the list of MCPS positions set to be laid off (assuming the budget cuts go through)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MCPS needs to cut language immersion & programming like that.
Focus on the basics
Trade programs
College tracking
gifted programming
Special education
General populace & education
This would not save any money. Immersion teachers do not get paid more than a regular elementary teacher. And the students still need to be in school, so they would just be in an English speaking class instead. Absolutely no impact on the budget.
Yes it would save money. Immersion programs have a different extra sets of curriculums, extra staff hiring goes into finding dual language teachers, there are central office positions that have to support those schools. Most of the kids in the programs, struggle with the language, parents sign up because they don't want their kids to be in a highly concentrated Latino school.
Oh you again. Just go away- I'm sorry your kids didn't get in but don't assume your reason for applying to language immersion is the same as everyone else's. (FWIW, we deliberatebly bought a house in bounds for a dual immersion school, which gasp, has a decent percentage of Latino students, because learning a foreign language is important to our family. sorry if that's a weird concept for you!)
This is true. They should have it for Spanish speaker only kids and make Spanish a special for all other kids.
Anonymous
05/13/2026 07:50
Subject: What are the list of MCPS positions set to be laid off (assuming the budget cuts go through)?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MCPS needs to cut language immersion & programming like that.
Focus on the basics
Trade programs
College tracking
gifted programming
Special education
General populace & education
This would not save any money. Immersion teachers do not get paid more than a regular elementary teacher. And the students still need to be in school, so they would just be in an English speaking class instead. Absolutely no impact on the budget.
Yes it would save money. Immersion programs have a different extra sets of curriculums, extra staff hiring goes into finding dual language teachers, there are central office positions that have to support those schools. Most of the kids in the programs, struggle with the language, parents sign up because they don't want their kids to be in a highly concentrated Latino school.
Oh you again. Just go away- I'm sorry your kids didn't get in but don't assume your reason for applying to language immersion is the same as everyone else's. (FWIW, we deliberatebly bought a house in bounds for a dual immersion school, which gasp, has a decent percentage of Latino students, because learning a foreign language is important to our family. sorry if that's a weird concept for you!)