Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because we want $10m to retire.
Why? Give us an outline of your retirement plans and why you need that much to achieve them, then explain why those plans are so important and desirable that they're worth giving up more of your prime years working to achieve them. I'm genuinely curious. After all, time is limited--for all of us.
Np. Working is not “giving up” one’s prime years just because I have $5M invested. It’s a choice about how we want to spend our time, and some of our years. There’s a sense of fulfillment from that, and it’s no less valuable than puttering around in a vegetable garden.
Oh, please. I retired with less than that and we have a gardener. Your "sense of fulfillment" is more likely from deriving your self-worth and identity from your job title and paycheck. And let's face it, most high paying jobs don't contribute jack shit to society. It's not like you're a fire fighter or something.
What's wrong with working to derive self worth and identity from job title and paycheck?
Nothing. If you're insecure and superficial. Everything if you're not.
Anonymous wrote:dp: perhaps because one person working isn't fair if the other is retired and you are similar ages? Being retired isn't fun without your kids out and your spouse also retired...we want to travel and do things.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We have $6.5M not including the house, and work for health care benefits. Paying out of pocket for 10-15 years for the two of us plus kids before reaching Medicare eligibility seems like such a waste of funds. Since one works for health care benefits, it is only fair that the other works, too.
You sound greedy. If one works for healthcare, why the other?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because we want $10m to retire.
Why? Give us an outline of your retirement plans and why you need that much to achieve them, then explain why those plans are so important and desirable that they're worth giving up more of your prime years working to achieve them. I'm genuinely curious. After all, time is limited--for all of us.
I am not "giving up my prime years" to work. I enjoy working, even knowing my time is limited.
You do you. Weird outlook on life though.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because we want $10m to retire.
Why? Give us an outline of your retirement plans and why you need that much to achieve them, then explain why those plans are so important and desirable that they're worth giving up more of your prime years working to achieve them. I'm genuinely curious. After all, time is limited--for all of us.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because we want $10m to retire.
Why? Give us an outline of your retirement plans and why you need that much to achieve them, then explain why those plans are so important and desirable that they're worth giving up more of your prime years working to achieve them. I'm genuinely curious. After all, time is limited--for all of us.
Np. Working is not “giving up” one’s prime years just because I have $5M invested. It’s a choice about how we want to spend our time, and some of our years. There’s a sense of fulfillment from that, and it’s no less valuable than puttering around in a vegetable garden.
Oh, please. I retired with less than that and we have a gardener. Your "sense of fulfillment" is more likely from deriving your self-worth and identity from your job title and paycheck. And let's face it, most high paying jobs don't contribute jack shit to society. It's not like you're a fire fighter or something.
What's wrong with working to derive self worth and identity from job title and paycheck?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because we want $10m to retire.
Why? Give us an outline of your retirement plans and why you need that much to achieve them, then explain why those plans are so important and desirable that they're worth giving up more of your prime years working to achieve them. I'm genuinely curious. After all, time is limited--for all of us.
Np. Working is not “giving up” one’s prime years just because I have $5M invested. It’s a choice about how we want to spend our time, and some of our years. There’s a sense of fulfillment from that, and it’s no less valuable than puttering around in a vegetable garden.
Oh, please. I retired with less than that and we have a gardener. Your "sense of fulfillment" is more likely from deriving your self-worth and identity from your job title and paycheck. And let's face it, most high paying jobs don't contribute jack shit to society. It's not like you're a fire fighter or something.
You seem angry and troubled. A lot of people take pride in their jobs, and their jobs do contribute to society, or at least to the society that most of us would like to inhabit.
Neither angry nor troubled. Just calling it like it is. Especially in the DMV where the first question asked is too often “what do you do?”
Many of you define yourselves and others around you by your job titles and income. Fact.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because we want $10m to retire.
Why? Give us an outline of your retirement plans and why you need that much to achieve them, then explain why those plans are so important and desirable that they're worth giving up more of your prime years working to achieve them. I'm genuinely curious. After all, time is limited--for all of us.
Np. Working is not “giving up” one’s prime years just because I have $5M invested. It’s a choice about how we want to spend our time, and some of our years. There’s a sense of fulfillment from that, and it’s no less valuable than puttering around in a vegetable garden.
Oh, please. I retired with less than that and we have a gardener. Your "sense of fulfillment" is more likely from deriving your self-worth and identity from your job title and paycheck. And let's face it, most high paying jobs don't contribute jack shit to society. It's not like you're a fire fighter or something.
dp: perhaps because one person working isn't fair if the other is retired and you are similar ages? Being retired isn't fun without your kids out and your spouse also retired...we want to travel and do things.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We have $6.5M not including the house, and work for health care benefits. Paying out of pocket for 10-15 years for the two of us plus kids before reaching Medicare eligibility seems like such a waste of funds. Since one works for health care benefits, it is only fair that the other works, too.
You sound greedy. If one works for healthcare, why the other?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Retired people generally are:
- Relatively old
- Have similar aged retired people to hang out with
- Have kids that are grown up and moved out
- Feel content in what they've accomplished in life
Unless those things are true it's pretty unpleasant to retire.
We're late 30s with way more than $5M, but what would we do with our time if we retired? We're relatively young, our kids are still in school for 10+ more years, and our friends all still work. We also feel like we can do interesting things in our jobs and get paid a lot of money for it. So we both continue to work.
Also fwiw $5M is not very much to stop working at an early age. The Trinity study wasn't looking at 50 years of retirement, and a family of 4 living on $150k is not much when you consider that most people who reach $5M before retirement age probably made a lot more than that.
$150,000 after tax guaranteed with a paid off house is not tough to live on comfortably, even in a HCOL area, unless you've got 2+ kids in 60k/yr private schools.
Anonymous wrote:Some people just have that dog in them despite being worth $5M or $20M or $100M or whatever.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“You can’t do anything with 5, Greg. Five is a nightmare.”
This is actually true, especially if you have multiple kids.
Anonymous wrote:People want luxury, that’s it. You can retire on $5M just fine even with kids, but folks who earn enough to make 5 mil at a young age are accustomed to a certain standard of living that would be hard to guarantee on a mere 150k/yr or whatever.
You can easily blow 20-30k on a single international trip if you travel in style with a family. You can do that if you have 5 mil with an 800k HHI but not with 5 mil and $0 HHI.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because we want $10m to retire.
Why? Give us an outline of your retirement plans and why you need that much to achieve them, then explain why those plans are so important and desirable that they're worth giving up more of your prime years working to achieve them. I'm genuinely curious. After all, time is limited--for all of us.
I am not "giving up my prime years" to work. I enjoy working, even knowing my time is limited.