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Post 05/13/2026 15:46     Subject: 25 APs not enough for Top 10

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Anonymous wrote:He says right in the video that he took major risks with his essays and at one point, he says he didn’t even answer Northwestern‘s prompt.



Why are people skipping over this? If you don't answer the college's essay question and submit your own "edgy" essay, you didn't do it right.


They weren’t “edgy”, but “risky”, and “high risk high reward”.

My guess is that if someone would have edited and advised him on how to write a good essay, he would have gotten him into a top 10.

For most people dumping on the kid, how many of your own take AP calculus in 9th and have the drive to self study for AP Physics C because the school offers only algebra based physics? The kid has grit, while the downers see grind.

He will do fine at UCLA, and from what I’ve seen it’s a better fit for him than the other colleges he applied to.


His accomplishments that you mention are yawn. Not real accomplishments. What has he been able to achieve by taking Calculus slightly earlier, or by extending physics to include Calculus? He squandered it by doing nothing with it. Huge yawn.


Sure huge yawn, he should have started a nonprofit with mom’s help or compete in science fair with a topic closely aligned with dads PhD.

Taking calculus in 9th is 2-3 years ahead of the vast majority of students, considering the high school is 4 years it doesn’t make it slightly earlier. What should the kid have done with his Calculus Physics knowledge while in high school?



If you take it before college, what is the difference between taking it in 9th vs 11th? Zero difference.

Now if you could list off advanced math classes that he took, far beyond that, it would be a different situation.


The difference is that it allows taking all of the advanced core classes in high school. How many kids do you know that took all of Calculus BC, Statistics, Physics C, Chemistry, Biology, English (Language and Literature), History (US, European, World), Computer Science A, Foreign Language. These are top rigor courses and he got all As and 5s. I’d even add to this Micro and Macro economics.

That’s a real academic accomplishment. He could have done better with support on the college application process, but UCLA is still very good.


That sounds pretty normal. Again, not an accomplishment. These are just AP classes.


That’s not normal or ordinary. How many of these classes did yours take? The kid checked the box on rigor and grades with all these “just AP” classes. Obviously he had some shortcomings, phoning in the application last minute, weak essays, likely weak LOR since he went to three different high schools, but still has a strong high school record especially in academics.

Still I’d think UCLA is comparable with Cornell Ivy where his brother went and he’ll enter college as a Junior. How’s not graduating UCLA in two years an accomplishment? You really need to get out of your bubble.



I personally took every single one of those APs you mentioned and never considered it an accomplishment. It was normal. My accomplishments were other things that I did

Furthermore, the kid has not graduated college in 2 years. You are making that part up. Graduating college early only makes sense if you have something great lined up afterwards. Otherwise you are just unemployed.


lol. Sure you took every single one of them, honey, it was just normal for you. Online everyone is top rigor with national level awards and recognition. Care you share what major and at what college you ended up?

While he didn’t graduate in 2 years, the kid said he’s entering UCLA as a Junior, putting him solidly on that path.

You sound so silly, you’re likely still in high school, if not middle school. Graduating early will save him about $100k. Dumb kids with useless majors will be unemployed after college, but I guarantee he’s not one of them. You on the other hand, I’m not so sure.


Why is taking a normal AP course load so hard to believe? All of my peers during high school did the same. I ended up double majoring in college since it was pretty easy to do and going directly into grad school.


Do you have any evidence that taking 15 of the hardest APs is normal, besides the claim that “you and your peers took every single one of them”? College Board statistics show that about 0.2% of all students manage that feat, so it’s hardly “normal”.

What undergrad and grad school did you go to? Were they “better” than UCLA? What major and what field?

Was the kid misguided to take 25 APs? Yes, and to some degree a waste of time, but he set himself this goal, however imperfect and managed to accomplish it by working hard over 4 years of high school. That’s better than the vast majority of fabricated passion projects, nepotism internships, and fake impact metrics.

People that have some life experience realize that UCLA won’t hold this kid back in the least. If grad school is his interest, he can get in anywhere from UCLA, including HYPSM or whatever people consider elite. Nobody will deny him a job interview because he went to UCLA instead of Cornell.

If anything, he did a lot in high school and managed to get into one of the top universities in the world. Understandable he is disappointed, but honestly he has no reason to be. At 18 he lacks some perspective and that’s ok, he’ll do fine.


There may have been some slight variation across the specific APs of my cohort but roughly equivalent.

My college and grad schools are well liked on this board. Without getting into specifics, I have two doctorates and am well compensated.

UCLA is a fine college though.


Did you also win the Nobel prize and Fields medal? Just so you make it slightly more believable.


No but I have met a few people who have Nobels. Not everyone on here is a troll. I am a real person.


Is that supposed to be impressive?

You sound like a dumb troll jerk dumping your own frustration in life on an 18 year old.


I have met lots of interesting people, and a few have had Nobels.

You might want to reflect why you react the way you do here. My life is great and we could have had a more productive interaction here.

AP coursework is just very basic and doing 15, 20, or 25 of them doesn’t change that it is all introductory material.

I’m exiting this thread now.

The thing is, if one goes to a good enough college like UCLA, the intro classes are much harder and cover much more than those corresponding AP classes. I personally would retake some of the core required classes even if the school let your AP classes fulfill the requirements.


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My daughter just finished her first year at a "good" college and the AP super jocks from public high schools who skipped the intro courses are getting TANKED in the classes they "placed" into.


Not true, APs are on par with introductory classes at even top colleges. If a 5 on AP Calculus BC is good enough for MIT and Stanford, then it’s fine for lower ranked universities as well.


In what sense is a 5 on Calc BC good enough for MIT? I bet most planning to do STEM at MIT have much more math preparation than Calc BC.


A 5 in AP Calculus BC gets credit for MIT’s 18.01 Single variable calculus.

That means a 5 in BC barely passes their elementary calculus!


No, it means that for a score of 5 in AP Calculus BC you get the same credit towards a degree as passing MITs 18.01 Single Variable Calculus.

Not barely, and not elementary calculus, whatever you think that means. If MIT is saying they are equivalent, it really doesn’t matter what your personal opinion is on this matter.



That doesn't make them equivalent. It just lets you skip 18.01 if you want to try the next class in the sequence. These classes are much harder than AP so doing so is challenging and most kids will repeat 18.01 at college rather than try to skip.


Curious about this, are you dumb?

From the MIT website:
“A score of 5 on the Calculus BC exam will grant you credit for 18.01.”

Not that it lets you skip, not that 18.01 is much harder, or that it’s recommended you repeat 18.01. You get the same credit towards an MIT degree as taking 18.01.

From the sample of kids I personally knew, not a single one would repeat 18.01, because they have better use of their time than reviewing material that’s already mastered.


You obviously don't know anyone there. Full stop. You can read a website but don't actually know anything. Please shut up. These kids need to continue math beyond 18.01 and the everybody has already taken BC Calc. Everybody. Skipping 18.01 is not going to be fun.
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Post 05/13/2026 15:35     Subject: 25 APs not enough for Top 10

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Anonymous wrote:He says right in the video that he took major risks with his essays and at one point, he says he didn’t even answer Northwestern‘s prompt.



Why are people skipping over this? If you don't answer the college's essay question and submit your own "edgy" essay, you didn't do it right.


They weren’t “edgy”, but “risky”, and “high risk high reward”.

My guess is that if someone would have edited and advised him on how to write a good essay, he would have gotten him into a top 10.

For most people dumping on the kid, how many of your own take AP calculus in 9th and have the drive to self study for AP Physics C because the school offers only algebra based physics? The kid has grit, while the downers see grind.

He will do fine at UCLA, and from what I’ve seen it’s a better fit for him than the other colleges he applied to.


His accomplishments that you mention are yawn. Not real accomplishments. What has he been able to achieve by taking Calculus slightly earlier, or by extending physics to include Calculus? He squandered it by doing nothing with it. Huge yawn.


Sure huge yawn, he should have started a nonprofit with mom’s help or compete in science fair with a topic closely aligned with dads PhD.

Taking calculus in 9th is 2-3 years ahead of the vast majority of students, considering the high school is 4 years it doesn’t make it slightly earlier. What should the kid have done with his Calculus Physics knowledge while in high school?



If you take it before college, what is the difference between taking it in 9th vs 11th? Zero difference.

Now if you could list off advanced math classes that he took, far beyond that, it would be a different situation.


The difference is that it allows taking all of the advanced core classes in high school. How many kids do you know that took all of Calculus BC, Statistics, Physics C, Chemistry, Biology, English (Language and Literature), History (US, European, World), Computer Science A, Foreign Language. These are top rigor courses and he got all As and 5s. I’d even add to this Micro and Macro economics.

That’s a real academic accomplishment. He could have done better with support on the college application process, but UCLA is still very good.


That sounds pretty normal. Again, not an accomplishment. These are just AP classes.


That’s not normal or ordinary. How many of these classes did yours take? The kid checked the box on rigor and grades with all these “just AP” classes. Obviously he had some shortcomings, phoning in the application last minute, weak essays, likely weak LOR since he went to three different high schools, but still has a strong high school record especially in academics.

Still I’d think UCLA is comparable with Cornell Ivy where his brother went and he’ll enter college as a Junior. How’s not graduating UCLA in two years an accomplishment? You really need to get out of your bubble.



I personally took every single one of those APs you mentioned and never considered it an accomplishment. It was normal. My accomplishments were other things that I did

Furthermore, the kid has not graduated college in 2 years. You are making that part up. Graduating college early only makes sense if you have something great lined up afterwards. Otherwise you are just unemployed.


lol. Sure you took every single one of them, honey, it was just normal for you. Online everyone is top rigor with national level awards and recognition. Care you share what major and at what college you ended up?

While he didn’t graduate in 2 years, the kid said he’s entering UCLA as a Junior, putting him solidly on that path.

You sound so silly, you’re likely still in high school, if not middle school. Graduating early will save him about $100k. Dumb kids with useless majors will be unemployed after college, but I guarantee he’s not one of them. You on the other hand, I’m not so sure.


Why is taking a normal AP course load so hard to believe? All of my peers during high school did the same. I ended up double majoring in college since it was pretty easy to do and going directly into grad school.


Do you have any evidence that taking 15 of the hardest APs is normal, besides the claim that “you and your peers took every single one of them”? College Board statistics show that about 0.2% of all students manage that feat, so it’s hardly “normal”.

What undergrad and grad school did you go to? Were they “better” than UCLA? What major and what field?

Was the kid misguided to take 25 APs? Yes, and to some degree a waste of time, but he set himself this goal, however imperfect and managed to accomplish it by working hard over 4 years of high school. That’s better than the vast majority of fabricated passion projects, nepotism internships, and fake impact metrics.

People that have some life experience realize that UCLA won’t hold this kid back in the least. If grad school is his interest, he can get in anywhere from UCLA, including HYPSM or whatever people consider elite. Nobody will deny him a job interview because he went to UCLA instead of Cornell.

If anything, he did a lot in high school and managed to get into one of the top universities in the world. Understandable he is disappointed, but honestly he has no reason to be. At 18 he lacks some perspective and that’s ok, he’ll do fine.


There may have been some slight variation across the specific APs of my cohort but roughly equivalent.

My college and grad schools are well liked on this board. Without getting into specifics, I have two doctorates and am well compensated.

UCLA is a fine college though.


Did you also win the Nobel prize and Fields medal? Just so you make it slightly more believable.


No but I have met a few people who have Nobels. Not everyone on here is a troll. I am a real person.


Is that supposed to be impressive?

You sound like a dumb troll jerk dumping your own frustration in life on an 18 year old.


I have met lots of interesting people, and a few have had Nobels.

You might want to reflect why you react the way you do here. My life is great and we could have had a more productive interaction here.

AP coursework is just very basic and doing 15, 20, or 25 of them doesn’t change that it is all introductory material.

I’m exiting this thread now.

The thing is, if one goes to a good enough college like UCLA, the intro classes are much harder and cover much more than those corresponding AP classes. I personally would retake some of the core required classes even if the school let your AP classes fulfill the requirements.


This.
My daughter just finished her first year at a "good" college and the AP super jocks from public high schools who skipped the intro courses are getting TANKED in the classes they "placed" into.


Not true, APs are on par with introductory classes at even top colleges. If a 5 on AP Calculus BC is good enough for MIT and Stanford, then it’s fine for lower ranked universities as well.


In what sense is a 5 on Calc BC good enough for MIT? I bet most planning to do STEM at MIT have much more math preparation than Calc BC.


A 5 in AP Calculus BC gets credit for MIT’s 18.01 Single variable calculus.

That means a 5 in BC barely passes their elementary calculus!


No, it means that for a score of 5 in AP Calculus BC you get the same credit towards a degree as passing MITs 18.01 Single Variable Calculus.

Not barely, and not elementary calculus, whatever you think that means. If MIT is saying they are equivalent, it really doesn’t matter what your personal opinion is on this matter.



That doesn't make them equivalent. It just lets you skip 18.01 if you want to try the next class in the sequence. These classes are much harder than AP so doing so is challenging and most kids will repeat 18.01 at college rather than try to skip.


Curious about this, are you dumb?

From the MIT website:
“A score of 5 on the Calculus BC exam will grant you credit for 18.01.”

Not that it lets you skip, not that 18.01 is much harder, or that it’s recommended you repeat 18.01. You get the same credit towards an MIT degree as taking 18.01.

From the sample of kids I personally knew, not a single one would repeat 18.01, because they have better use of their time than reviewing material that’s already mastered.
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Post 05/13/2026 15:26     Subject: Re:25 APs not enough for Top 10

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Which colleges won’t accept foreign language credits for native speakers? You’re just making it up.


PP: I guess I didn't make myself clear. If a student who speaks another language takes an AP or CLEP test, they'll get credit if the college gives it to anyone.

However, if a college has a list of required courses for applicants and that list includes. e.g., 4 years of English, 4 of math, 3-4 of science, 3-4 of a foreign language,etc. some colleges will not exempt the student who speaks a foreign language at home from meeting the foreign language requirement just because they take an AP test in their foreign language and score a 5.

Is that clearer?



You’re still not clear and also wrong.

If a school gives foreign language credit for the AP exam it won’t disqualify students from that credit just because they didn’t take 3-4 years of that foreign language in high school. Name the school that does it, otherwise you don’t know what you’re talking about. Even more so, many school give foreign language credit by examination by the relevant college department, which you can pass by learning that language at home.

Look the Harvard policy, which is notoriously stingy with AP credits if you want to educate yourself on this topic, which clearly states: “A Language and Culture AP score of a 5 or an IB Language (HL only) score of a 7 may be used to fulfill the Foreign Language Requirement.”

You look incredibly stupid to claim as true facts that can be disproved with a simple google search.
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Post 05/13/2026 15:22     Subject: 25 APs not enough for Top 10

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Anonymous wrote:He says right in the video that he took major risks with his essays and at one point, he says he didn’t even answer Northwestern‘s prompt.



Why are people skipping over this? If you don't answer the college's essay question and submit your own "edgy" essay, you didn't do it right.


They weren’t “edgy”, but “risky”, and “high risk high reward”.

My guess is that if someone would have edited and advised him on how to write a good essay, he would have gotten him into a top 10.

For most people dumping on the kid, how many of your own take AP calculus in 9th and have the drive to self study for AP Physics C because the school offers only algebra based physics? The kid has grit, while the downers see grind.

He will do fine at UCLA, and from what I’ve seen it’s a better fit for him than the other colleges he applied to.


His accomplishments that you mention are yawn. Not real accomplishments. What has he been able to achieve by taking Calculus slightly earlier, or by extending physics to include Calculus? He squandered it by doing nothing with it. Huge yawn.


Sure huge yawn, he should have started a nonprofit with mom’s help or compete in science fair with a topic closely aligned with dads PhD.

Taking calculus in 9th is 2-3 years ahead of the vast majority of students, considering the high school is 4 years it doesn’t make it slightly earlier. What should the kid have done with his Calculus Physics knowledge while in high school?



If you take it before college, what is the difference between taking it in 9th vs 11th? Zero difference.

Now if you could list off advanced math classes that he took, far beyond that, it would be a different situation.


The difference is that it allows taking all of the advanced core classes in high school. How many kids do you know that took all of Calculus BC, Statistics, Physics C, Chemistry, Biology, English (Language and Literature), History (US, European, World), Computer Science A, Foreign Language. These are top rigor courses and he got all As and 5s. I’d even add to this Micro and Macro economics.

That’s a real academic accomplishment. He could have done better with support on the college application process, but UCLA is still very good.


That sounds pretty normal. Again, not an accomplishment. These are just AP classes.


That’s not normal or ordinary. How many of these classes did yours take? The kid checked the box on rigor and grades with all these “just AP” classes. Obviously he had some shortcomings, phoning in the application last minute, weak essays, likely weak LOR since he went to three different high schools, but still has a strong high school record especially in academics.

Still I’d think UCLA is comparable with Cornell Ivy where his brother went and he’ll enter college as a Junior. How’s not graduating UCLA in two years an accomplishment? You really need to get out of your bubble.



I personally took every single one of those APs you mentioned and never considered it an accomplishment. It was normal. My accomplishments were other things that I did

Furthermore, the kid has not graduated college in 2 years. You are making that part up. Graduating college early only makes sense if you have something great lined up afterwards. Otherwise you are just unemployed.


lol. Sure you took every single one of them, honey, it was just normal for you. Online everyone is top rigor with national level awards and recognition. Care you share what major and at what college you ended up?

While he didn’t graduate in 2 years, the kid said he’s entering UCLA as a Junior, putting him solidly on that path.

You sound so silly, you’re likely still in high school, if not middle school. Graduating early will save him about $100k. Dumb kids with useless majors will be unemployed after college, but I guarantee he’s not one of them. You on the other hand, I’m not so sure.


Why is taking a normal AP course load so hard to believe? All of my peers during high school did the same. I ended up double majoring in college since it was pretty easy to do and going directly into grad school.


Do you have any evidence that taking 15 of the hardest APs is normal, besides the claim that “you and your peers took every single one of them”? College Board statistics show that about 0.2% of all students manage that feat, so it’s hardly “normal”.

What undergrad and grad school did you go to? Were they “better” than UCLA? What major and what field?

Was the kid misguided to take 25 APs? Yes, and to some degree a waste of time, but he set himself this goal, however imperfect and managed to accomplish it by working hard over 4 years of high school. That’s better than the vast majority of fabricated passion projects, nepotism internships, and fake impact metrics.

People that have some life experience realize that UCLA won’t hold this kid back in the least. If grad school is his interest, he can get in anywhere from UCLA, including HYPSM or whatever people consider elite. Nobody will deny him a job interview because he went to UCLA instead of Cornell.

If anything, he did a lot in high school and managed to get into one of the top universities in the world. Understandable he is disappointed, but honestly he has no reason to be. At 18 he lacks some perspective and that’s ok, he’ll do fine.


There may have been some slight variation across the specific APs of my cohort but roughly equivalent.

My college and grad schools are well liked on this board. Without getting into specifics, I have two doctorates and am well compensated.

UCLA is a fine college though.


Did you also win the Nobel prize and Fields medal? Just so you make it slightly more believable.


No but I have met a few people who have Nobels. Not everyone on here is a troll. I am a real person.


Is that supposed to be impressive?

You sound like a dumb troll jerk dumping your own frustration in life on an 18 year old.


I have met lots of interesting people, and a few have had Nobels.

You might want to reflect why you react the way you do here. My life is great and we could have had a more productive interaction here.

AP coursework is just very basic and doing 15, 20, or 25 of them doesn’t change that it is all introductory material.

I’m exiting this thread now.

The thing is, if one goes to a good enough college like UCLA, the intro classes are much harder and cover much more than those corresponding AP classes. I personally would retake some of the core required classes even if the school let your AP classes fulfill the requirements.


This.
My daughter just finished her first year at a "good" college and the AP super jocks from public high schools who skipped the intro courses are getting TANKED in the classes they "placed" into.


Not true, APs are on par with introductory classes at even top colleges. If a 5 on AP Calculus BC is good enough for MIT and Stanford, then it’s fine for lower ranked universities as well.


In what sense is a 5 on Calc BC good enough for MIT? I bet most planning to do STEM at MIT have much more math preparation than Calc BC.


A 5 in AP Calculus BC gets credit for MIT’s 18.01 Single variable calculus.

That means a 5 in BC barely passes their elementary calculus!


No, it means that for a score of 5 in AP Calculus BC you get the same credit towards a degree as passing MITs 18.01 Single Variable Calculus.

Not barely, and not elementary calculus, whatever you think that means. If MIT is saying they are equivalent, it really doesn’t matter what your personal opinion is on this matter.



That doesn't make them equivalent. It just lets you skip 18.01 if you want to try the next class in the sequence. These classes are much harder than AP so doing so is challenging and most kids will repeat 18.01 at college rather than try to skip.
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Post 05/13/2026 15:13     Subject: 25 APs not enough for Top 10

Anonymous wrote:A mile wide and inch deep is not a viable college application strategy. He has an older brother at Cornell so he was well aware of the system. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Why wouldn't volunteer hours transfer? Either you volunteered or you didn't. Also, why the need for self-described high risk essays?


Except it was a viable application strategy since he got into UCLA.

Some schools keep track of volunteering hours and don’t accept aggregating hours from other schools.

I guess a 17 year old decided to go with a quirky high risk essay since he didn’t have access to a paid college counselor or knowledgeable parent to ghost write, polish and nicely package his application.

He still did better than 90% of students from so called competitive school so good for him.
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Post 05/13/2026 15:06     Subject: 25 APs not enough for Top 10

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Anonymous wrote:He says right in the video that he took major risks with his essays and at one point, he says he didn’t even answer Northwestern‘s prompt.



Why are people skipping over this? If you don't answer the college's essay question and submit your own "edgy" essay, you didn't do it right.


They weren’t “edgy”, but “risky”, and “high risk high reward”.

My guess is that if someone would have edited and advised him on how to write a good essay, he would have gotten him into a top 10.

For most people dumping on the kid, how many of your own take AP calculus in 9th and have the drive to self study for AP Physics C because the school offers only algebra based physics? The kid has grit, while the downers see grind.

He will do fine at UCLA, and from what I’ve seen it’s a better fit for him than the other colleges he applied to.


His accomplishments that you mention are yawn. Not real accomplishments. What has he been able to achieve by taking Calculus slightly earlier, or by extending physics to include Calculus? He squandered it by doing nothing with it. Huge yawn.


Sure huge yawn, he should have started a nonprofit with mom’s help or compete in science fair with a topic closely aligned with dads PhD.

Taking calculus in 9th is 2-3 years ahead of the vast majority of students, considering the high school is 4 years it doesn’t make it slightly earlier. What should the kid have done with his Calculus Physics knowledge while in high school?



If you take it before college, what is the difference between taking it in 9th vs 11th? Zero difference.

Now if you could list off advanced math classes that he took, far beyond that, it would be a different situation.


The difference is that it allows taking all of the advanced core classes in high school. How many kids do you know that took all of Calculus BC, Statistics, Physics C, Chemistry, Biology, English (Language and Literature), History (US, European, World), Computer Science A, Foreign Language. These are top rigor courses and he got all As and 5s. I’d even add to this Micro and Macro economics.

That’s a real academic accomplishment. He could have done better with support on the college application process, but UCLA is still very good.


That sounds pretty normal. Again, not an accomplishment. These are just AP classes.


That’s not normal or ordinary. How many of these classes did yours take? The kid checked the box on rigor and grades with all these “just AP” classes. Obviously he had some shortcomings, phoning in the application last minute, weak essays, likely weak LOR since he went to three different high schools, but still has a strong high school record especially in academics.

Still I’d think UCLA is comparable with Cornell Ivy where his brother went and he’ll enter college as a Junior. How’s not graduating UCLA in two years an accomplishment? You really need to get out of your bubble.



I personally took every single one of those APs you mentioned and never considered it an accomplishment. It was normal. My accomplishments were other things that I did

Furthermore, the kid has not graduated college in 2 years. You are making that part up. Graduating college early only makes sense if you have something great lined up afterwards. Otherwise you are just unemployed.


lol. Sure you took every single one of them, honey, it was just normal for you. Online everyone is top rigor with national level awards and recognition. Care you share what major and at what college you ended up?

While he didn’t graduate in 2 years, the kid said he’s entering UCLA as a Junior, putting him solidly on that path.

You sound so silly, you’re likely still in high school, if not middle school. Graduating early will save him about $100k. Dumb kids with useless majors will be unemployed after college, but I guarantee he’s not one of them. You on the other hand, I’m not so sure.


Why is taking a normal AP course load so hard to believe? All of my peers during high school did the same. I ended up double majoring in college since it was pretty easy to do and going directly into grad school.


Do you have any evidence that taking 15 of the hardest APs is normal, besides the claim that “you and your peers took every single one of them”? College Board statistics show that about 0.2% of all students manage that feat, so it’s hardly “normal”.

What undergrad and grad school did you go to? Were they “better” than UCLA? What major and what field?

Was the kid misguided to take 25 APs? Yes, and to some degree a waste of time, but he set himself this goal, however imperfect and managed to accomplish it by working hard over 4 years of high school. That’s better than the vast majority of fabricated passion projects, nepotism internships, and fake impact metrics.

People that have some life experience realize that UCLA won’t hold this kid back in the least. If grad school is his interest, he can get in anywhere from UCLA, including HYPSM or whatever people consider elite. Nobody will deny him a job interview because he went to UCLA instead of Cornell.

If anything, he did a lot in high school and managed to get into one of the top universities in the world. Understandable he is disappointed, but honestly he has no reason to be. At 18 he lacks some perspective and that’s ok, he’ll do fine.


There may have been some slight variation across the specific APs of my cohort but roughly equivalent.

My college and grad schools are well liked on this board. Without getting into specifics, I have two doctorates and am well compensated.

UCLA is a fine college though.


Did you also win the Nobel prize and Fields medal? Just so you make it slightly more believable.


No but I have met a few people who have Nobels. Not everyone on here is a troll. I am a real person.


Is that supposed to be impressive?

You sound like a dumb troll jerk dumping your own frustration in life on an 18 year old.


I have met lots of interesting people, and a few have had Nobels.

You might want to reflect why you react the way you do here. My life is great and we could have had a more productive interaction here.

AP coursework is just very basic and doing 15, 20, or 25 of them doesn’t change that it is all introductory material.

I’m exiting this thread now.

The thing is, if one goes to a good enough college like UCLA, the intro classes are much harder and cover much more than those corresponding AP classes. I personally would retake some of the core required classes even if the school let your AP classes fulfill the requirements.


This.
My daughter just finished her first year at a "good" college and the AP super jocks from public high schools who skipped the intro courses are getting TANKED in the classes they "placed" into.


Not true, APs are on par with introductory classes at even top colleges. If a 5 on AP Calculus BC is good enough for MIT and Stanford, then it’s fine for lower ranked universities as well.


In what sense is a 5 on Calc BC good enough for MIT? I bet most planning to do STEM at MIT have much more math preparation than Calc BC.


A 5 in AP Calculus BC gets credit for MIT’s 18.01 Single variable calculus.

That means a 5 in BC barely passes their elementary calculus!


No, it means that for a score of 5 in AP Calculus BC you get the same credit towards a degree as passing MITs 18.01 Single Variable Calculus.

Not barely, and not elementary calculus, whatever you think that means. If MIT is saying they are equivalent, it really doesn’t matter what your personal opinion is on this matter.

Anonymous
Post 05/13/2026 15:03     Subject: 25 APs not enough for Top 10

Clearly the kid did this on his own, even if he has an older sibling at Cornell. If I was his parent or advising him, I would give him different advice. But considering he tried his best with what he thought he knew, his results are pretty good.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2026 15:00     Subject: 25 APs not enough for Top 10

I love how everyone is dumping on the kid while they’d give away a kidney so their precious child gets into UCLA, which will obviously not happen.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2026 14:30     Subject: 25 APs not enough for Top 10

A mile wide and inch deep is not a viable college application strategy. He has an older brother at Cornell so he was well aware of the system. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Why wouldn't volunteer hours transfer? Either you volunteered or you didn't. Also, why the need for self-described high risk essays?
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2026 14:23     Subject: 25 APs not enough for Top 10

Anonymous wrote:That was a stupid strategy. You have to have a hook. Nobody cares about APs. Everybody takes them!


You’re right, but if the kid wanted to improve his profile & his family wasn’t up for moving to North Dakota, what’s he supposed to do? Start another BS charity to help the downtrodden? Get adopted by Angelina Jolie?
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2026 14:18     Subject: Re:25 APs not enough for Top 10

Which colleges won’t accept foreign language credits for native speakers? You’re just making it up.


PP: I guess I didn't make myself clear. If a student who speaks another language takes an AP or CLEP test, they'll get credit if the college gives it to anyone.

However, if a college has a list of required courses for applicants and that list includes. e.g., 4 years of English, 4 of math, 3-4 of science, 3-4 of a foreign language,etc. some colleges will not exempt the student who speaks a foreign language at home from meeting the foreign language requirement just because they take an AP test in their foreign language and score a 5.

Is that clearer?

Anonymous
Post 05/13/2026 14:06     Subject: 25 APs not enough for Top 10

I love how much people here love to hate on people with good stats but not perfect extracurriculars- while not noticing the irony that when their “world changing” students enter the most elite schools, they’re doing worse than every generation before them and go on to consulting!
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2026 14:00     Subject: 25 APs not enough for Top 10

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP.

anyone else get the sense that the OP of this thread, and a lot of the immature responses, are probably the guy who took 25 AP classes and only got into UCLA.

I just get a vibe that he gets off on a certain type of online attention. Which is weird, and I'm not surprised colleges didn't want that element in their mix.


Actually I consider his a successful story: getting into UCLA with likely mediocre ECs!


The more I read about this case, the more I think he’s pretty lucky to get into UCLA and USC! His grades are not great, and I don’t think his letters are great either. He also clearly has mediocre social skills, which are very important to elite colleges. I think this is an example of just drilling for exams alone is enough to get you into some pretty good colleges, very much like the Asian system! Speaking of that, the guy would have no problem getting a full ride to the best Asian universities.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2026 12:31     Subject: 25 APs not enough for Top 10

He got into BU, USC, UCLA, Wake, UCSD. These are solid second tier colleges after Ivy+, etc.

He also said his GPA was significantly hurt, whatever that means. If you're an admissions officer and you see 25 AP's but bad grades, your job just became easier.

He wrote "many things like volunteer hours" did not transfer?" That makes no sense.

He also wrote high risk essays. That's a bold strategy, Cotton.

So in the end he got the result he deserved.
Anonymous
Post 05/13/2026 11:58     Subject: 25 APs not enough for Top 10

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Spending too much time on your own academics is a sign of arrogance and self-centeredness. Schools do not care if you are top .1% intelligence if you are solely focused on racking up stats. I'm not speaking to this kid in particular, but there are plenty of brilliant maladjusted geniuses that will spend all day in their room studying, masturbating and playing shooter games, rather than contributing to the campus community. Schools would rather take to 5% intelligence and community impact than the .1% top student who is glorying in their own intelligence all day.


Wow. You need to spend some time on your own issues.


I think you're missing the point. The world is not a better place because a kid takes a 25th AP, or gets a 98 on a test instead of a 96. Studying that much is a self-centered, ego-gratifying endeavor. If the kid spent 3 hours a week bagging groceries and paying compliments to senior citizens at the supermarket instead of studying for the 25th AP, they will have done more good for universe than going from 24 to 25 APs. At least the old ladies will smile and reflect on their "lovely blouse" at home for a day or two. Parents are prioritizing the wrong values and colleges are showing this through holistic admissions. Great stats on their own are just not that valuable.


Couldn't agree with this more. It's also why, as an IEC, I refuse to take on certain clients or families. They won't heed the advice and then will lament the outcomes.