Anonymous wrote:Something people need to understand is FVU is different from Vienna, BRYC, Valor etc...what I mean is FVU holds the ECNL charter so they are their own entity and will simply choose the best players they can at tryouts. Just because you play for any of the clubs in the "union" is absolutely meaningless and FVU is not beholden to taking any of them. The rising U13s are a good example of that.
When McLean was part of VA Union McLean held the ECNL charter so VA Union was not its own entity. This is very different from what FVU is. The entire FVU org is a scam from the "6 national titles" of a org that has only existed for 2 years to any 'union' or clubs that are supposedly part of it.
Its time we as parents wise up and stop getting conned...pre ecnl for bryc, valor, vienna etc means youre in position to make the RL team and thats it
Anonymous wrote:Nope, born and raised in the good ol USA. It’s funny how angry you are because I care more about my kid being part of a team and learning a team sport properly vs passing to the tall kid who scores goals to win. Sounds like your kid will be holding my kids bag one day. Everyone needs an assistant so I appreciate you.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To make sure I am clear, you would want a team that depends solely on one player via kick and run vs total soccer? Just want to make sure I am understanding your response. If so, why is this a good thing?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Assuming this is the case, are the other parents annoyed by this or just happy to win? We had played for a team that was similar and the coach supported it. It was bad soccer and thus, we could never beat good teams because they would adapt and shut the kid down. We moved on to a different team but it continues and the other parents seem ok with giving it to one kid to score. I think they are mostly ok with it because they want to win and this is really the only way for them to do that.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well done FVU! There is a lot of talent in that team.
A lot of talent is a stretch... There is one main talent that the team plays kickball towards and hopes she'll make something happen.
DP and at this point I think my kid would be happy to end up on a team like that. Was on a team like that a couple years ago and the player left, now playing MLS Next. Now the team can pass the ball well, but no one can finish.
Maybe not to that extreme. But it's getting a little old to be sold the "total soccer" thing just to lose over and over. What's the point of "playing the right way" if it results in a loss every time? Winning even half the time would be nice. My kid isn't going pro, and college is also unlikely. So I am now a little skeptical of the "learn to play the right way for the long run" mentality. It feels like coaches use it to justify poor results. There is no long run for most of these kids. Maybe they just want to enjoy being on a good team for a few years, even if it means one kid does most of the scoring. Mine is happy to be the kid who can get the ball to that player. The little short passes in the back don't work too well if you don't have someone who can break through. I realize this is not the "right" opinion but oh well.
Its not about right or wrong its about know how and you have shown you are ignorant of soccer development. This is ok, just stop posting on things you know nothing about.
Yeah that's not how this works. You don't get to tell other people whether or not they can post. I know a ton about another sport that has its own forum on here, and I don't go over there telling people to stop posting when it's clear they are just sharing their perspective as a parent who didn't compete in that sport. Who cares if I know more? It doesn't affect whatever perspective and experience they are having with their kid in the sport. I don't need to go prove how knowledgeable I am. The soccer board really seems to attract that type.
In this case your perspecive is not needed. Shut it down go back to your LAX or Baseball board. You silly americans think your opinions matter on a sport you have zero credibility. Sit down, thanks.
You remind of a tiny little man who used to be on our team and left because our team wasn’t playing the ‘right’ way. In reality, that persons child just wasn’t very good but he wanted to blame a coach vs coming to terms with the fact that his child just wasn’t that good. That family has bounced around and around because no team is good enough for his standards. I feel bad for the kid. I’d rather my kid enjoy playing soccer, even if it’s the wrong way, than play the right way and hate soccer.
Yes, you get it! I really couldn't care less whether some dude from another country is mad that Americans don't play the "right" way. Most Americans don't care either, including those whose kids play soccer. I didn't pick soccer for my child, unlike Mr. Expert here who probably didn't give their kids a choice. Maybe he should move his family to a country where they play up to his standards. Instead he'd rather extract whatever resources he can get from the US while continually crapping on it. Completely over people with this attitude.
Anonymous wrote:Something people need to understand is FVU is different from Vienna, BRYC, Valor etc...what I mean is FVU holds the ECNL charter so they are their own entity and will simply choose the best players they can at tryouts. Just because you play for any of the clubs in the "union" is absolutely meaningless and FVU is not beholden to taking any of them. The rising U13s are a good example of that.
When McLean was part of VA Union McLean held the ECNL charter so VA Union was not its own entity. This is very different from what FVU is. The entire FVU org is a scam from the "6 national titles" of a org that has only existed for 2 years to any 'union' or clubs that are supposedly part of it.
Its time we as parents wise up and stop getting conned...pre ecnl for bryc, valor, vienna etc means youre in position to make the RL team and thats it
Nope, born and raised in the good ol USA. It’s funny how angry you are because I care more about my kid being part of a team and learning a team sport properly vs passing to the tall kid who scores goals to win. Sounds like your kid will be holding my kids bag one day. Everyone needs an assistant so I appreciate you.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To make sure I am clear, you would want a team that depends solely on one player via kick and run vs total soccer? Just want to make sure I am understanding your response. If so, why is this a good thing?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Assuming this is the case, are the other parents annoyed by this or just happy to win? We had played for a team that was similar and the coach supported it. It was bad soccer and thus, we could never beat good teams because they would adapt and shut the kid down. We moved on to a different team but it continues and the other parents seem ok with giving it to one kid to score. I think they are mostly ok with it because they want to win and this is really the only way for them to do that.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well done FVU! There is a lot of talent in that team.
A lot of talent is a stretch... There is one main talent that the team plays kickball towards and hopes she'll make something happen.
DP and at this point I think my kid would be happy to end up on a team like that. Was on a team like that a couple years ago and the player left, now playing MLS Next. Now the team can pass the ball well, but no one can finish.
Maybe not to that extreme. But it's getting a little old to be sold the "total soccer" thing just to lose over and over. What's the point of "playing the right way" if it results in a loss every time? Winning even half the time would be nice. My kid isn't going pro, and college is also unlikely. So I am now a little skeptical of the "learn to play the right way for the long run" mentality. It feels like coaches use it to justify poor results. There is no long run for most of these kids. Maybe they just want to enjoy being on a good team for a few years, even if it means one kid does most of the scoring. Mine is happy to be the kid who can get the ball to that player. The little short passes in the back don't work too well if you don't have someone who can break through. I realize this is not the "right" opinion but oh well.
Its not about right or wrong its about know how and you have shown you are ignorant of soccer development. This is ok, just stop posting on things you know nothing about.
Yeah that's not how this works. You don't get to tell other people whether or not they can post. I know a ton about another sport that has its own forum on here, and I don't go over there telling people to stop posting when it's clear they are just sharing their perspective as a parent who didn't compete in that sport. Who cares if I know more? It doesn't affect whatever perspective and experience they are having with their kid in the sport. I don't need to go prove how knowledgeable I am. The soccer board really seems to attract that type.
In this case your perspecive is not needed. Shut it down go back to your LAX or Baseball board. You silly americans think your opinions matter on a sport you have zero credibility. Sit down, thanks.
You remind of a tiny little man who used to be on our team and left because our team wasn’t playing the ‘right’ way. In reality, that persons child just wasn’t very good but he wanted to blame a coach vs coming to terms with the fact that his child just wasn’t that good. That family has bounced around and around because no team is good enough for his standards. I feel bad for the kid. I’d rather my kid enjoy playing soccer, even if it’s the wrong way, than play the right way and hate soccer.
Yes, you get it! I really couldn't care less whether some dude from another country is mad that Americans don't play the "right" way. Most Americans don't care either, including those whose kids play soccer. I didn't pick soccer for my child, unlike Mr. Expert here who probably didn't give their kids a choice. Maybe he should move his family to a country where they play up to his standards. Instead he'd rather extract whatever resources he can get from the US while continually crapping on it. Completely over people with this attitude.
Anonymous wrote:Something people need to understand is FVU is different from Vienna, BRYC, Valor etc...what I mean is FVU holds the ECNL charter so they are their own entity and will simply choose the best players they can at tryouts. Just because you play for any of the clubs in the "union" is absolutely meaningless and FVU is not beholden to taking any of them. The rising U13s are a good example of that.
When McLean was part of VA Union McLean held the ECNL charter so VA Union was not its own entity. This is very different from what FVU is. The entire FVU org is a scam from the "6 national titles" of a org that has only existed for 2 years to any 'union' or clubs that are supposedly part of it.
Its time we as parents wise up and stop getting conned...pre ecnl for bryc, valor, vienna etc means youre in position to make the RL team and thats it
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To make sure I am clear, you would want a team that depends solely on one player via kick and run vs total soccer? Just want to make sure I am understanding your response. If so, why is this a good thing?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Assuming this is the case, are the other parents annoyed by this or just happy to win? We had played for a team that was similar and the coach supported it. It was bad soccer and thus, we could never beat good teams because they would adapt and shut the kid down. We moved on to a different team but it continues and the other parents seem ok with giving it to one kid to score. I think they are mostly ok with it because they want to win and this is really the only way for them to do that.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well done FVU! There is a lot of talent in that team.
A lot of talent is a stretch... There is one main talent that the team plays kickball towards and hopes she'll make something happen.
DP and at this point I think my kid would be happy to end up on a team like that. Was on a team like that a couple years ago and the player left, now playing MLS Next. Now the team can pass the ball well, but no one can finish.
Maybe not to that extreme. But it's getting a little old to be sold the "total soccer" thing just to lose over and over. What's the point of "playing the right way" if it results in a loss every time? Winning even half the time would be nice. My kid isn't going pro, and college is also unlikely. So I am now a little skeptical of the "learn to play the right way for the long run" mentality. It feels like coaches use it to justify poor results. There is no long run for most of these kids. Maybe they just want to enjoy being on a good team for a few years, even if it means one kid does most of the scoring. Mine is happy to be the kid who can get the ball to that player. The little short passes in the back don't work too well if you don't have someone who can break through. I realize this is not the "right" opinion but oh well.
Its not about right or wrong its about know how and you have shown you are ignorant of soccer development. This is ok, just stop posting on things you know nothing about.
Yeah that's not how this works. You don't get to tell other people whether or not they can post. I know a ton about another sport that has its own forum on here, and I don't go over there telling people to stop posting when it's clear they are just sharing their perspective as a parent who didn't compete in that sport. Who cares if I know more? It doesn't affect whatever perspective and experience they are having with their kid in the sport. I don't need to go prove how knowledgeable I am. The soccer board really seems to attract that type.
In this case your perspecive is not needed. Shut it down go back to your LAX or Baseball board. You silly americans think your opinions matter on a sport you have zero credibility. Sit down, thanks.
You remind of a tiny little man who used to be on our team and left because our team wasn’t playing the ‘right’ way. In reality, that persons child just wasn’t very good but he wanted to blame a coach vs coming to terms with the fact that his child just wasn’t that good. That family has bounced around and around because no team is good enough for his standards. I feel bad for the kid. I’d rather my kid enjoy playing soccer, even if it’s the wrong way, than play the right way and hate soccer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To make sure I am clear, you would want a team that depends solely on one player via kick and run vs total soccer? Just want to make sure I am understanding your response. If so, why is this a good thing?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Assuming this is the case, are the other parents annoyed by this or just happy to win? We had played for a team that was similar and the coach supported it. It was bad soccer and thus, we could never beat good teams because they would adapt and shut the kid down. We moved on to a different team but it continues and the other parents seem ok with giving it to one kid to score. I think they are mostly ok with it because they want to win and this is really the only way for them to do that.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well done FVU! There is a lot of talent in that team.
A lot of talent is a stretch... There is one main talent that the team plays kickball towards and hopes she'll make something happen.
DP and at this point I think my kid would be happy to end up on a team like that. Was on a team like that a couple years ago and the player left, now playing MLS Next. Now the team can pass the ball well, but no one can finish.
Maybe not to that extreme. But it's getting a little old to be sold the "total soccer" thing just to lose over and over. What's the point of "playing the right way" if it results in a loss every time? Winning even half the time would be nice. My kid isn't going pro, and college is also unlikely. So I am now a little skeptical of the "learn to play the right way for the long run" mentality. It feels like coaches use it to justify poor results. There is no long run for most of these kids. Maybe they just want to enjoy being on a good team for a few years, even if it means one kid does most of the scoring. Mine is happy to be the kid who can get the ball to that player. The little short passes in the back don't work too well if you don't have someone who can break through. I realize this is not the "right" opinion but oh well.
Its not about right or wrong its about know how and you have shown you are ignorant of soccer development. This is ok, just stop posting on things you know nothing about.
Yeah that's not how this works. You don't get to tell other people whether or not they can post. I know a ton about another sport that has its own forum on here, and I don't go over there telling people to stop posting when it's clear they are just sharing their perspective as a parent who didn't compete in that sport. Who cares if I know more? It doesn't affect whatever perspective and experience they are having with their kid in the sport. I don't need to go prove how knowledgeable I am. The soccer board really seems to attract that type.
In this case your perspecive is not needed. Shut it down go back to your LAX or Baseball board. You silly americans think your opinions matter on a sport you have zero credibility. Sit down, thanks.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To make sure I am clear, you would want a team that depends solely on one player via kick and run vs total soccer? Just want to make sure I am understanding your response. If so, why is this a good thing?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Assuming this is the case, are the other parents annoyed by this or just happy to win? We had played for a team that was similar and the coach supported it. It was bad soccer and thus, we could never beat good teams because they would adapt and shut the kid down. We moved on to a different team but it continues and the other parents seem ok with giving it to one kid to score. I think they are mostly ok with it because they want to win and this is really the only way for them to do that.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well done FVU! There is a lot of talent in that team.
A lot of talent is a stretch... There is one main talent that the team plays kickball towards and hopes she'll make something happen.
DP and at this point I think my kid would be happy to end up on a team like that. Was on a team like that a couple years ago and the player left, now playing MLS Next. Now the team can pass the ball well, but no one can finish.
Maybe not to that extreme. But it's getting a little old to be sold the "total soccer" thing just to lose over and over. What's the point of "playing the right way" if it results in a loss every time? Winning even half the time would be nice. My kid isn't going pro, and college is also unlikely. So I am now a little skeptical of the "learn to play the right way for the long run" mentality. It feels like coaches use it to justify poor results. There is no long run for most of these kids. Maybe they just want to enjoy being on a good team for a few years, even if it means one kid does most of the scoring. Mine is happy to be the kid who can get the ball to that player. The little short passes in the back don't work too well if you don't have someone who can break through. I realize this is not the "right" opinion but oh well.
Its not about right or wrong its about know how and you have shown you are ignorant of soccer development. This is ok, just stop posting on things you know nothing about.
Yeah that's not how this works. You don't get to tell other people whether or not they can post. I know a ton about another sport that has its own forum on here, and I don't go over there telling people to stop posting when it's clear they are just sharing their perspective as a parent who didn't compete in that sport. Who cares if I know more? It doesn't affect whatever perspective and experience they are having with their kid in the sport. I don't need to go prove how knowledgeable I am. The soccer board really seems to attract that type.
Agreed. I was generally curious as to why someone would be ok with a team being oriented around a single player. What you are describing is how I perceive our old team. We left because it was not improving my kid and teaching lessons in life I dont support nor what I see as good soccer. IMHO there is nothing better than a team playing together, as one and everyone getting chances based on how the play evolves. Yes, winning feels good, but at what cost.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To make sure I am clear, you would want a team that depends solely on one player via kick and run vs total soccer? Just want to make sure I am understanding your response. If so, why is this a good thing?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Assuming this is the case, are the other parents annoyed by this or just happy to win? We had played for a team that was similar and the coach supported it. It was bad soccer and thus, we could never beat good teams because they would adapt and shut the kid down. We moved on to a different team but it continues and the other parents seem ok with giving it to one kid to score. I think they are mostly ok with it because they want to win and this is really the only way for them to do that.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well done FVU! There is a lot of talent in that team.
A lot of talent is a stretch... There is one main talent that the team plays kickball towards and hopes she'll make something happen.
DP and at this point I think my kid would be happy to end up on a team like that. Was on a team like that a couple years ago and the player left, now playing MLS Next. Now the team can pass the ball well, but no one can finish.
Maybe not to that extreme. But it's getting a little old to be sold the "total soccer" thing just to lose over and over. What's the point of "playing the right way" if it results in a loss every time? Winning even half the time would be nice. My kid isn't going pro, and college is also unlikely. So I am now a little skeptical of the "learn to play the right way for the long run" mentality. It feels like coaches use it to justify poor results. There is no long run for most of these kids. Maybe they just want to enjoy being on a good team for a few years, even if it means one kid does most of the scoring. Mine is happy to be the kid who can get the ball to that player. The little short passes in the back don't work too well if you don't have someone who can break through. I realize this is not the "right" opinion but oh well.
Its not about right or wrong its about know how and you have shown you are ignorant of soccer development. This is ok, just stop posting on things you know nothing about.
Yeah that's not how this works. You don't get to tell other people whether or not they can post. I know a ton about another sport that has its own forum on here, and I don't go over there telling people to stop posting when it's clear they are just sharing their perspective as a parent who didn't compete in that sport. Who cares if I know more? It doesn't affect whatever perspective and experience they are having with their kid in the sport. I don't need to go prove how knowledgeable I am. The soccer board really seems to attract that type.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well done FVU! There is a lot of talent in that team.
A lot of talent is a stretch... There is one main talent that the team plays kickball towards and hopes she'll make something happen.
This poster must be another VDA agitator because they clearly did not watch the game.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well done FVU! There is a lot of talent in that team.
A lot of talent is a stretch... There is one main talent that the team plays kickball towards and hopes she'll make something happen.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To make sure I am clear, you would want a team that depends solely on one player via kick and run vs total soccer? Just want to make sure I am understanding your response. If so, why is this a good thing?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Assuming this is the case, are the other parents annoyed by this or just happy to win? We had played for a team that was similar and the coach supported it. It was bad soccer and thus, we could never beat good teams because they would adapt and shut the kid down. We moved on to a different team but it continues and the other parents seem ok with giving it to one kid to score. I think they are mostly ok with it because they want to win and this is really the only way for them to do that.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well done FVU! There is a lot of talent in that team.
A lot of talent is a stretch... There is one main talent that the team plays kickball towards and hopes she'll make something happen.
DP and at this point I think my kid would be happy to end up on a team like that. Was on a team like that a couple years ago and the player left, now playing MLS Next. Now the team can pass the ball well, but no one can finish.
Maybe not to that extreme. But it's getting a little old to be sold the "total soccer" thing just to lose over and over. What's the point of "playing the right way" if it results in a loss every time? Winning even half the time would be nice. My kid isn't going pro, and college is also unlikely. So I am now a little skeptical of the "learn to play the right way for the long run" mentality. It feels like coaches use it to justify poor results. There is no long run for most of these kids. Maybe they just want to enjoy being on a good team for a few years, even if it means one kid does most of the scoring. Mine is happy to be the kid who can get the ball to that player. The little short passes in the back don't work too well if you don't have someone who can break through. I realize this is not the "right" opinion but oh well.
Its not about right or wrong its about know how and you have shown you are ignorant of soccer development. This is ok, just stop posting on things you know nothing about.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To make sure I am clear, you would want a team that depends solely on one player via kick and run vs total soccer? Just want to make sure I am understanding your response. If so, why is this a good thing?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Assuming this is the case, are the other parents annoyed by this or just happy to win? We had played for a team that was similar and the coach supported it. It was bad soccer and thus, we could never beat good teams because they would adapt and shut the kid down. We moved on to a different team but it continues and the other parents seem ok with giving it to one kid to score. I think they are mostly ok with it because they want to win and this is really the only way for them to do that.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well done FVU! There is a lot of talent in that team.
A lot of talent is a stretch... There is one main talent that the team plays kickball towards and hopes she'll make something happen.
DP and at this point I think my kid would be happy to end up on a team like that. Was on a team like that a couple years ago and the player left, now playing MLS Next. Now the team can pass the ball well, but no one can finish.
Maybe not to that extreme. But it's getting a little old to be sold the "total soccer" thing just to lose over and over. What's the point of "playing the right way" if it results in a loss every time? Winning even half the time would be nice. My kid isn't going pro, and college is also unlikely. So I am now a little skeptical of the "learn to play the right way for the long run" mentality. It feels like coaches use it to justify poor results. There is no long run for most of these kids. Maybe they just want to enjoy being on a good team for a few years, even if it means one kid does most of the scoring. Mine is happy to be the kid who can get the ball to that player. The little short passes in the back don't work too well if you don't have someone who can break through. I realize this is not the "right" opinion but oh well.