Anonymous wrote:Do any neuropsych evals ever come back and say the child is neurotypical? Has anyone here actually had that outcome for their own child?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do any neuropsych evals ever come back and say the child is neurotypical? Has anyone here actually had that outcome for their own child?
Not anyone I know.
Most of the time, there is something parents are concerned about and evaluator confirms it. That would be a win-win.
But in some instances evaluators tried to cherry pick information just to come up with a random diagnosis that, only to them, kind of makes sense.
What makes you say this? Is this from what other parents have told you? Or just shameless speculation?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Do any neuropsych evals ever come back and say the child is neurotypical? Has anyone here actually had that outcome for their own child?
Not anyone I know.
Most of the time, there is something parents are concerned about and evaluator confirms it. That would be a win-win.
But in some instances evaluators tried to cherry pick information just to come up with a random diagnosis that, only to them, kind of makes sense.
Anonymous wrote:Do any neuropsych evals ever come back and say the child is neurotypical? Has anyone here actually had that outcome for their own child?
Anonymous wrote:Do any neuropsych evals ever come back and say the child is neurotypical? Has anyone here actually had that outcome for their own child?
Anonymous wrote:Do any neuropsych evals ever come back and say the child is neurotypical? Has anyone here actually had that outcome for their own child?
Posted too fast and just saw the response. I was actually wondering whether what you described might be a better approach. Thank you.Anonymous wrote:^ And I am not being sarcastic. It is a genuine question.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm convinced there's no such thing as "neurotypical". Our brains all work differently, and that's not a bad thing.
JFC. Do you think this bs will help any kid with disabilities at school? Seriously.
This thread has lost the point, primarily due to the responses like this one. Cut the drama, please.
But, I think PP who posted that there is no such thing as “neurotypical” should come and clarify. I take it that PP meant that we are all on the neurodivergence spectrum and, as such, there is no such thing as “neurotypical”.
I would agree with that statement, but to those being appalled, that fact does not imply that there are no different levels of neurodivergence in all of us. In many cases of ADHD and ASD impact on social and academic life is profound, and that requires significant supports both at home and school. Recognizing the fluidity of it all in complicated cases is the key when trying to figure out when additional supports and diagnosis are necessary and helpful. Add to this that without “diagnosis” health insurance will not pay for therapy and schools will not provide accommodations, and you end up with psychotherapists who don’t see any harm with over diagnosing or no harm with not being extra careful with testing. To me it seems like they are just trying to find “evidence” to support whatever diagnosis seems like a good fit, and then recommend a path for child to start getting some sort of a support. That is not a bad strategy on its own, as long as supports match the actual issues. The neuropsychological evaluation is worth every penny, when the evaluator takes time to understand why parents are paying an extravagant amount of money to help their child, and provide recommendations that will make a difference.
I also think that most of the counter arguments here are the people who regretted doing the evaluation (in a response to the original OPs question and original topic of this thread). I know that I am not trying to convince anyone not to do evaluation, but would definitely caution parents that it is not some sort of guaranteed objective feedback they might be hoping for. I wish we didn’t pursue it.
Your bolded is just to perpetuating a myth. There is nothing that makes a neuropsychologist especially skilled and qualified in making recommendations for therapy and supports.
Ok. Who is then qualified?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm convinced there's no such thing as "neurotypical". Our brains all work differently, and that's not a bad thing.
JFC. Do you think this bs will help any kid with disabilities at school? Seriously.
This thread has lost the point, primarily due to the responses like this one. Cut the drama, please.
But, I think PP who posted that there is no such thing as “neurotypical” should come and clarify. I take it that PP meant that we are all on the neurodivergence spectrum and, as such, there is no such thing as “neurotypical”.
I would agree with that statement, but to those being appalled, that fact does not imply that there are no different levels of neurodivergence in all of us. In many cases of ADHD and ASD impact on social and academic life is profound, and that requires significant supports both at home and school. Recognizing the fluidity of it all in complicated cases is the key when trying to figure out when additional supports and diagnosis are necessary and helpful. Add to this that without “diagnosis” health insurance will not pay for therapy and schools will not provide accommodations, and you end up with psychotherapists who don’t see any harm with over diagnosing or no harm with not being extra careful with testing. To me it seems like they are just trying to find “evidence” to support whatever diagnosis seems like a good fit, and then recommend a path for child to start getting some sort of a support. That is not a bad strategy on its own, as long as supports match the actual issues. The neuropsychological evaluation is worth every penny, when the evaluator takes time to understand why parents are paying an extravagant amount of money to help their child, and provide recommendations that will make a difference.
I also think that most of the counter arguments here are the people who regretted doing the evaluation (in a response to the original OPs question and original topic of this thread). I know that I am not trying to convince anyone not to do evaluation, but would definitely caution parents that it is not some sort of guaranteed objective feedback they might be hoping for. I wish we didn’t pursue it.
Your bolded is just to perpetuating a myth. There is nothing that makes a neuropsychologist especially skilled and qualified in making recommendations for therapy and supports.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm convinced there's no such thing as "neurotypical". Our brains all work differently, and that's not a bad thing.
JFC. Do you think this bs will help any kid with disabilities at school? Seriously.
This thread has lost the point, primarily due to the responses like this one. Cut the drama, please.
But, I think PP who posted that there is no such thing as “neurotypical” should come and clarify. I take it that PP meant that we are all on the neurodivergence spectrum and, as such, there is no such thing as “neurotypical”.
I would agree with that statement, but to those being appalled, that fact does not imply that there are no different levels of neurodivergence in all of us. In many cases of ADHD and ASD impact on social and academic life is profound, and that requires significant supports both at home and school. Recognizing the fluidity of it all in complicated cases is the key when trying to figure out when additional supports and diagnosis are necessary and helpful. Add to this that without “diagnosis” health insurance will not pay for therapy and schools will not provide accommodations, and you end up with psychotherapists who don’t see any harm with over diagnosing or no harm with not being extra careful with testing. To me it seems like they are just trying to find “evidence” to support whatever diagnosis seems like a good fit, and then recommend a path for child to start getting some sort of a support. That is not a bad strategy on its own, as long as supports match the actual issues. The neuropsychological evaluation is worth every penny, when the evaluator takes time to understand why parents are paying an extravagant amount of money to help their child, and provide recommendations that will make a difference.
I also think that most of the counter arguments here are the people who regretted doing the evaluation (in a response to the original OPs question and original topic of this thread). I know that I am not trying to convince anyone not to do evaluation, but would definitely caution parents that it is not some sort of guaranteed objective feedback they might be hoping for. I wish we didn’t pursue it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm convinced there's no such thing as "neurotypical". Our brains all work differently, and that's not a bad thing.
JFC. Do you think this bs will help any kid with disabilities at school? Seriously.
Anonymous wrote:I'm convinced there's no such thing as "neurotypical". Our brains all work differently, and that's not a bad thing.