Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m an early 50s employee, one level down from VP at my Fortune 500. I’ve had 4-5 roles in my 20 years at this company, progressing steadily every 2-3 years.
I also had roles at 2-3 other well known, Fortune 500 companies, but that was 20+ years ago.
If I limit my resume to only 10-15 years, I look much more limited in terms of my work experience.
What do you recommend for someone like me who looks like a dinosaur for staying at a company for so long? I feel like I’m one layoff away from a long stint of unemployment.
Your progression every 3 years probably looks amazing. The title changes are really good and I’m guessing you’ve had different bosses also. So the question of ‘why did this person stay at xyz so long’ is answered: bc there were varied opportunities inside the company and they picked her/him for them. (Ie S/he was talented enough to be promoted - many times).
For your resume, I would have a section Previous Roles or Other Experience. Simply List the
Title, Company, Years
Title, Company, Years
Title, Company, Years
(follow the format you used in the earlier section)
I don’t need more job tasks, duties, outcomes explained in these. I will know what those jobs are by title. In this section I want to see that you did work elsewhere - that you have seen other work cultures. So keep it Brief and decide when to truncate it.
Somewhere above I noted that 50 is old in some F500 so if you are sensing it it is probably true. This is advice you didn’t ask but I will give it anyway. You are unlikely to land a VP job at a F500. There are already VP level candidates in our application funnel. A Director or Sr Director role yes, you’d be an easy pick. But also look at smaller companies with say 1-5k employees. They WANT your expertise and there are many with your profile in them in the executive levels. You have to be willing to work in the chaos as opposed to a well oiled machine though so it is a culture change for sure.
Anonymous wrote:How much should i say/not say to a recruiter when my real reason for a break between jobs is splitting with my spouse and their family business?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m an early 50s employee, one level down from VP at my Fortune 500. I’ve had 4-5 roles in my 20 years at this company, progressing steadily every 2-3 years.
I also had roles at 2-3 other well known, Fortune 500 companies, but that was 20+ years ago.
If I limit my resume to only 10-15 years, I look much more limited in terms of my work experience.
What do you recommend for someone like me who looks like a dinosaur for staying at a company for so long? I feel like I’m one layoff away from a long stint of unemployment.
Your progression every 3 years probably looks amazing. The title changes are really good and I’m guessing you’ve had different bosses also. So the question of ‘why did this person stay at xyz so long’ is answered: bc there were varied opportunities inside the company and they picked her/him for them. (Ie S/he was talented enough to be promoted - many times).
For your resume, I would have a section Previous Roles or Other Experience. Simply List the
Title, Company, Years
Title, Company, Years
Title, Company, Years
(follow the format you used in the earlier section)
I don’t need more job tasks, duties, outcomes explained in these. I will know what those jobs are by title. In this section I want to see that you did work elsewhere - that you have seen other work cultures. So keep it Brief and decide when to truncate it.
Somewhere above I noted that 50 is old in some F500 so if you are sensing it it is probably true. This is advice you didn’t ask but I will give it anyway. You are unlikely to land a VP job at a F500. There are already VP level candidates in our application funnel. A Director or Sr Director role yes, you’d be an easy pick. But also look at smaller companies with say 1-5k employees. They WANT your expertise and there are many with your profile in them in the executive levels. You have to be willing to work in the chaos as opposed to a well oiled machine though so it is a culture change for sure.
Anonymous wrote:I’m an early 50s employee, one level down from VP at my Fortune 500. I’ve had 4-5 roles in my 20 years at this company, progressing steadily every 2-3 years.
I also had roles at 2-3 other well known, Fortune 500 companies, but that was 20+ years ago.
If I limit my resume to only 10-15 years, I look much more limited in terms of my work experience.
What do you recommend for someone like me who looks like a dinosaur for staying at a company for so long? I feel like I’m one layoff away from a long stint of unemployment.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Calibri, Arial, a clean sans serif font works really well
Why would sans-serif be preferable? It is generally considered to be harder to read for body text, and it also looks less serious than serif type. And Arial is sort of an abomination.
😖😖😖 hate Arial with a passion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When a recruiter closes with "if anyone comes to mind that you think would be a fit...."
Are they really looking for me to apply and don't want to appear to be directly saying that?
TIA
That sounds like the end of an external recruiter convo - but regardless - yeah, not a good sign.
I don't think you're understanding. That was the initial email. Why go thru the effort to track me down just to hope I'd find them a lead.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When a recruiter closes with "if anyone comes to mind that you think would be a fit...."
Are they really looking for me to apply and don't want to appear to be directly saying that?
TIA
That sounds like the end of an external recruiter convo - but regardless - yeah, not a good sign.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Excluding CEO/President level (think VP, senior manager, manager types) at what point does a candidate's age start working against them?
Good question. It depends on the role and the company to be honest. I’ve been in old school industries (think commercial and retail banking) where people stay a looonnng time and someone who is say 45 is about the midpoint of the workforce distribution. I’ve also worked in digital marketing where the average age was like 30. And then in F500 the average age might be in the middle say 38, but by 50 the company is packaging people out.
I will say this
There is no reason to ever put more than 15 years of experience on your resume
There is no reason to put your college graduation date. (1982??!)
There is no reason to still be using Yahoo email. SMH
There is no reason to use Times Roman Font
— when I see a combination of these things on a resume I start thinking ‘This PERSON Has Aged Himself/Herself With This Resume - they are demonstrating by this document that they are not adaptable, will not change.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, are you annoyed that your particular AMA has been hijacked by other all-knowing HR experts?
Lol not at all. The more the merrier if it helps DCUM land their next job!
Anonymous wrote:Calibri, Arial, a clean sans serif font works really well
Why would sans-serif be preferable? It is generally considered to be harder to read for body text, and it also looks less serious than serif type. And Arial is sort of an abomination.
Anonymous wrote:Where I differ from the OP is about thank you notes following interviews. Send them. Do you want the job? If so, do everything in your power to stand out among other candidates.
Does your company send out thank-you letters to candidates? Do you want those candidates to work for you? If so, then you should do everything to stand out among other companies.