Anonymous wrote:Teen’s HS student union is planning an approved walkout for later this week. The caveat is that if they walk out they will be marked absent and won’t be allowed back into whichever class they walked out of and will miss assignments and/or quizzes/tests.

I have no issues with the walk out, but I do have issues with my DS, who already struggles to earn passing grades in some of his core classes, missing an opportunity to turn in assignments or take a quiz/test. It’s nice the school is allowing them to protest, but I don’t know if it’s worth it at the expense of his grade?

He thinks I’m being unreasonable and worries he will be made fun of if he stays in the classroom. Thoughts?

So he's walking out in part due to peer pressure? That's a problem. He needs a mind of his own.

Got this from my MS yesterday:

Today, some of our students walked out of school at 12:45pm. Students left the building and were outside for about 30 minutes before returning to class.

FCPS respects the rights of our students to engage in peaceful protest and express their opinions through speech and other ways as long as it is done respectfully, does not interfere with the rights of others, and does not disrupt learning in the school.

Students who left the building were required to re-enter through our weapons screening system.

Our teachers, administrators, and staff continue to reinforce a sense of positive school community, and we ask for your partnership in working with your child to discuss meaningful actions that they can take to engage their community.

DS said they walked out to protest ICE but no one really knew what to do so they milled around for a few minutes then wandered back into school. I actually think a lot of them did it because they got out of their last class of the day on a Friday before a four day break.

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Anonymous wrote:Please name the woke schools that are doing this so everyone knows not to send their kids there to play out teachers' social justice fantasies.

Every single high school in PGCPS had or are having walk outs that are organized by student government. They are well organized and the level of support from parents and the community in Facebook groups is starkly different than some of the opinions expressed here.
I'm so proud that our kids are standing up for their community and expressing their first amendment rights. You might think it is a social justice fantasy but you can see that these protests are extremely meaningful to kids whose families are being targeted and detained.

It may not enact change but it sends a strong signal to the student body that they are supported.

Um, that is a really stupid take on this situation, PP. Let’s unpack what you wrote:

“walk outs that are organized by student government. They are well organized”

- so it is the government which is encouraging and organizing this, right? Want to bet it is actually the Indivisible organization who really organized this?? The students are being used as mere pawns. And,

“support from parents and the community in Facebook groups”

- FaceBook is one of Indivisible’s primary tools of influence and indoctrination. Plus, you just said: parents. Parents are behind this, not students.

You are disrupting the entire school’s learning time to exploit kids for pure political reasons.

How is that anything for you to be proud of, PP ?

Wah!

Everyone parent your own kid. If its a priority to your child or you, fo what you want whatever happens. Your kid isn't going to not graduate/fail/ maybe not even lower their grade significantly.

People will complain of course

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Anonymous wrote:Please name the woke schools that are doing this so everyone knows not to send their kids there to play out teachers' social justice fantasies.

Every single high school in PGCPS had or are having walk outs that are organized by student government. They are well organized and the level of support from parents and the community in Facebook groups is starkly different than some of the opinions expressed here.
I'm so proud that our kids are standing up for their community and expressing their first amendment rights. You might think it is a social justice fantasy but you can see that these protests are extremely meaningful to kids whose families are being targeted and detained.

It may not enact change but it sends a strong signal to the student body that they are supported.

Um, that is a really stupid take on this situation, PP. Let’s unpack what you wrote:

“walk outs that are organized by student government. They are well organized”

- so it is the government which is encouraging and organizing this, right? Want to bet it is actually the Indivisible organization who really organized this?? The students are being used as mere pawns. And,

“support from parents and the community in Facebook groups”

- FaceBook is one of Indivisible’s primary tools of influence and indoctrination. Plus, you just said: parents. Parents are behind this, not students.

You are disrupting the entire school’s learning time to exploit kids for pure political reasons.

How is that anything for you to be proud of, PP ?

I am not changing my instructional plan because some kids choose to walk out. For whatever reason. I’ve had kids protest for 2A rights and I kept teaching, and I’ve had kids protest ICE and I kept teaching. Their political action is theirs and since I’m not supposed to engage in politics at school, I am just continuing with my plans regardless.

If they miss something, I actually do want them to take that in and think about it, because if you had nothing at all to lose, you didn’t take a stand against anything, you just took a break.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s in high school. Let him be.

An “approved” walkout is kind on an oxymoron though.

Well, that’s the thing: It’s planned for a Friday when most kids have tests. If they go, they get 0s, and tests are 70% of their grade. If he gets a zero for this test, he will have a really hard time coming back, and have zero wiggle room.

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Talk to his teachers. Explain that he faces peer pressure etc. They aren’t interested in failing your kid

Nope. I’m a teacher. The kids are aware of what the walkout means. You don’t get to walkout and then your mommy emails me so I treat you special and let you make up the test nobody else can make up. I wouldn’t even respond. If he walks out, he walks out. If he stays he stays. I’m not chasing kids around about this stuff.

Teachers are people too

All kinds,some like PP. Others, not.

In this instance, most are like me. I support the kids protesting if they want. But your mom is not going to email me and then say you don’t have the same outcome as everyone else who walked out and maybe missed something. Your choice always has a consequence and the kids do have to own that.

That has not been our experience.

It has been your experience that after students walk out of class you can email the teacher and they say “yeah just for you Jonathan can make up that assignment”? Because that is the exact experience we’re discussing here. Not “do teachers generally let kids make up work” which I do. But “do teachers violate the school policy that students who participate in a walk out miss work they cannot make up later and bend on that because the parent asked them to.” Which no, most would not.

Teachers proactively discussed the walk out and what the child's choices were regarding work. No one needed to be contacted by me.

I can believe you are a teacher. We've met some who had been doing this too long.

If you did not do this, why are you responding as if you did? The entire comment spawned from someone telling OP to email the teacher to ask could her son still do the work he would miss during the walkout because she doesn’t want him to fail. I said as a teacher I would not accede to that and treat that student as an exception to the policy. You said “that hasn’t been our experience” and then go on to admit this isn’t even something you’ve dealt with or that has applied to you at all. Huh???

If your kid walks out in protest, they are aware they might miss work. There isn’t an exception to that. If the teacher decides to halt all instruction so the kids miss nothing, that’s their choice. If they proceed with instruction and the kids miss something, the kids accept that as part of walking out. This isn’t hard. And despite your passive aggressive attempts at framing a teacher who follows this policy as a bad teacher, they aren’t.

It has not been our experience that there have been major repercussions from attending the protests.

Teachers like you act like it will be a big deal. "Oh well your kid might miss something" that very rarely was the case

Most teachers did not plow through with the curriculum if a majority of the class was going to be absent. This happens whether its a walk out, or a bad weather incident or illness sweeping through the school. It's a waste of their time to do so. And yes they have options. The same ones they employ when they are unexpectedly absent and have a sub.

Of course I said "majority of students." Who knows what your schools are like.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s in high school. Let him be.

An “approved” walkout is kind on an oxymoron though.

Well, that’s the thing: It’s planned for a Friday when most kids have tests. If they go, they get 0s, and tests are 70% of their grade. If he gets a zero for this test, he will have a really hard time coming back, and have zero wiggle room.

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Talk to his teachers. Explain that he faces peer pressure etc. They aren’t interested in failing your kid

Nope. I’m a teacher. The kids are aware of what the walkout means. You don’t get to walkout and then your mommy emails me so I treat you special and let you make up the test nobody else can make up. I wouldn’t even respond. If he walks out, he walks out. If he stays he stays. I’m not chasing kids around about this stuff.

Teachers are people too

All kinds,some like PP. Others, not.

In this instance, most are like me. I support the kids protesting if they want. But your mom is not going to email me and then say you don’t have the same outcome as everyone else who walked out and maybe missed something. Your choice always has a consequence and the kids do have to own that.

That has not been our experience.

It has been your experience that after students walk out of class you can email the teacher and they say “yeah just for you Jonathan can make up that assignment”? Because that is the exact experience we’re discussing here. Not “do teachers generally let kids make up work” which I do. But “do teachers violate the school policy that students who participate in a walk out miss work they cannot make up later and bend on that because the parent asked them to.” Which no, most would not.

Teachers proactively discussed the walk out and what the child's choices were regarding work. No one needed to be contacted by me.

I can believe you are a teacher. We've met some who had been doing this too long.

If you did not do this, why are you responding as if you did? The entire comment spawned from someone telling OP to email the teacher to ask could her son still do the work he would miss during the walkout because she doesn’t want him to fail. I said as a teacher I would not accede to that and treat that student as an exception to the policy. You said “that hasn’t been our experience” and then go on to admit this isn’t even something you’ve dealt with or that has applied to you at all. Huh???

If your kid walks out in protest, they are aware they might miss work. There isn’t an exception to that. If the teacher decides to halt all instruction so the kids miss nothing, that’s their choice. If they proceed with instruction and the kids miss something, the kids accept that as part of walking out. This isn’t hard. And despite your passive aggressive attempts at framing a teacher who follows this policy as a bad teacher, they aren’t.

Let's not forget it's the teacher's choice if something is going on in class that will impact a grade. They don't have to halt instruction, but there aren't graded assessments every day. If the teacher has a choice and decides that student's will lose grades because they are protesting ice no, they aren't a bad teacher, just a bad person.

Incorrect again. my opinions about ICE are such that honestly most of you would consider it radical. But this isn’t about my politics. At my school, we already had the walkout. Some kids went. Some didn’t. I kept teaching, not because I love ICE and want to punish kids protesting ICE, but because some kids didn’t go and I can’t essentially force them into a protest by halting instruction when the protesting classmates aren’t there. Those kids didn’t walk out for whatever reason , that isn’t mine to judge, and I cannot say that basically, your learning is hostage to what kids whose politics I align with are out doing right now.

Nobody is going to experience a make or break F by doing this kind of thing. At most you miss a small assignment or some instruction. If you really can’t afford that you probably shouldn’t go, but I cannot justify pausing all instruction for all kids because SOME choose to protest, even if in actuality I am on their side of the protest and also hate ICE.

Thank you, PP. I appreciate your response. You aren’t, as PP stated, a “bad person.” Thank you about caring about ALL CHILDREN. That’s lost in this debate, where people seem to only be worried about their own.

Chantilly announced there was a walkout today.

Anonymous wrote:Why aren’t the kids protesting on Saturday morning at 8 AM? Your kids are playing you.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s in high school. Let him be.

An “approved” walkout is kind on an oxymoron though.

Well, that’s the thing: It’s planned for a Friday when most kids have tests. If they go, they get 0s, and tests are 70% of their grade. If he gets a zero for this test, he will have a really hard time coming back, and have zero wiggle room.

New poster.
Talk to his teachers. Explain that he faces peer pressure etc. They aren’t interested in failing your kid

Nope. I’m a teacher. The kids are aware of what the walkout means. You don’t get to walkout and then your mommy emails me so I treat you special and let you make up the test nobody else can make up. I wouldn’t even respond. If he walks out, he walks out. If he stays he stays. I’m not chasing kids around about this stuff.

Teachers are people too

All kinds,some like PP. Others, not.

In this instance, most are like me. I support the kids protesting if they want. But your mom is not going to email me and then say you don’t have the same outcome as everyone else who walked out and maybe missed something. Your choice always has a consequence and the kids do have to own that.

That has not been our experience.

It has been your experience that after students walk out of class you can email the teacher and they say “yeah just for you Jonathan can make up that assignment”? Because that is the exact experience we’re discussing here. Not “do teachers generally let kids make up work” which I do. But “do teachers violate the school policy that students who participate in a walk out miss work they cannot make up later and bend on that because the parent asked them to.” Which no, most would not.

Teachers proactively discussed the walk out and what the child's choices were regarding work. No one needed to be contacted by me.

I can believe you are a teacher. We've met some who had been doing this too long.

If you did not do this, why are you responding as if you did? The entire comment spawned from someone telling OP to email the teacher to ask could her son still do the work he would miss during the walkout because she doesn’t want him to fail. I said as a teacher I would not accede to that and treat that student as an exception to the policy. You said “that hasn’t been our experience” and then go on to admit this isn’t even something you’ve dealt with or that has applied to you at all. Huh???

If your kid walks out in protest, they are aware they might miss work. There isn’t an exception to that. If the teacher decides to halt all instruction so the kids miss nothing, that’s their choice. If they proceed with instruction and the kids miss something, the kids accept that as part of walking out. This isn’t hard. And despite your passive aggressive attempts at framing a teacher who follows this policy as a bad teacher, they aren’t.

Let's not forget it's the teacher's choice if something is going on in class that will impact a grade. They don't have to halt instruction, but there aren't graded assessments every day. If the teacher has a choice and decides that student's will lose grades because they are protesting ice no, they aren't a bad teacher, just a bad person.

Incorrect again. my opinions about ICE are such that honestly most of you would consider it radical. But this isn’t about my politics. At my school, we already had the walkout. Some kids went. Some didn’t. I kept teaching, not because I love ICE and want to punish kids protesting ICE, but because some kids didn’t go and I can’t essentially force them into a protest by halting instruction when the protesting classmates aren’t there. Those kids didn’t walk out for whatever reason , that isn’t mine to judge, and I cannot say that basically, your learning is hostage to what kids whose politics I align with are out doing right now.

Nobody is going to experience a make or break F by doing this kind of thing. At most you miss a small assignment or some instruction. If you really can’t afford that you probably shouldn’t go, but I cannot justify pausing all instruction for all kids because SOME choose to protest, even if in actuality I am on their side of the protest and also hate ICE.

Why aren’t the kids protesting on Saturday morning at 8 AM? Your kids are playing you.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s in high school. Let him be.

An “approved” walkout is kind on an oxymoron though.

Well, that’s the thing: It’s planned for a Friday when most kids have tests. If they go, they get 0s, and tests are 70% of their grade. If he gets a zero for this test, he will have a really hard time coming back, and have zero wiggle room.

New poster.
Talk to his teachers. Explain that he faces peer pressure etc. They aren’t interested in failing your kid

Nope. I’m a teacher. The kids are aware of what the walkout means. You don’t get to walkout and then your mommy emails me so I treat you special and let you make up the test nobody else can make up. I wouldn’t even respond. If he walks out, he walks out. If he stays he stays. I’m not chasing kids around about this stuff.

Teachers are people too

All kinds,some like PP. Others, not.

In this instance, most are like me. I support the kids protesting if they want. But your mom is not going to email me and then say you don’t have the same outcome as everyone else who walked out and maybe missed something. Your choice always has a consequence and the kids do have to own that.

That has not been our experience.

It has been your experience that after students walk out of class you can email the teacher and they say “yeah just for you Jonathan can make up that assignment”? Because that is the exact experience we’re discussing here. Not “do teachers generally let kids make up work” which I do. But “do teachers violate the school policy that students who participate in a walk out miss work they cannot make up later and bend on that because the parent asked them to.” Which no, most would not.

Teachers proactively discussed the walk out and what the child's choices were regarding work. No one needed to be contacted by me.

I can believe you are a teacher. We've met some who had been doing this too long.

If you did not do this, why are you responding as if you did? The entire comment spawned from someone telling OP to email the teacher to ask could her son still do the work he would miss during the walkout because she doesn’t want him to fail. I said as a teacher I would not accede to that and treat that student as an exception to the policy. You said “that hasn’t been our experience” and then go on to admit this isn’t even something you’ve dealt with or that has applied to you at all. Huh???

If your kid walks out in protest, they are aware they might miss work. There isn’t an exception to that. If the teacher decides to halt all instruction so the kids miss nothing, that’s their choice. If they proceed with instruction and the kids miss something, the kids accept that as part of walking out. This isn’t hard. And despite your passive aggressive attempts at framing a teacher who follows this policy as a bad teacher, they aren’t.

Let's not forget it's the teacher's choice if something is going on in class that will impact a grade. They don't have to halt instruction, but there aren't graded assessments every day. If the teacher has a choice and decides that student's will lose grades because they are protesting ice no, they aren't a bad teacher, just a bad person.

Anonymous wrote:Please name the woke schools that are doing this so everyone knows not to send their kids there to play out teachers' social justice fantasies.

Every single high school in PGCPS had or are having walk outs that are organized by student government. They are well organized and the level of support from parents and the community in Facebook groups is starkly different than some of the opinions expressed here.
I'm so proud that our kids are standing up for their community and expressing their first amendment rights. You might think it is a social justice fantasy but you can see that these protests are extremely meaningful to kids whose families are being targeted and detained.

It may not enact change but it sends a strong signal to the student body that they are supported.

Please name the woke schools that are doing this so everyone knows not to send their kids there to play out teachers' social justice fantasies.