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Anonymous wrote:This is why politics is so lame. A bunch of people on here pretending something was good because the other team doesn’t like it.

Prince’s halftime show was literally 1 million times better than this. Please let’s stop pretending this was any good just because Trump doesn’t like him. Liking art because of politics is how art dies.

Agree with the bolded.

LOL.

That is a view completely divorced from history and reality. George Orwell said “all art is propaganda” because art and politics have ALWAYS been intertwined. Art asks “how do we live?” and politics tries to answer. Every painting, tv show, and piece of music you have ever seen have answered political questions, from Bad Bunny to Mr. Rogers to the Marvel movies. They will always chase one another.

Art is powerful for sure. However, when the message is if you lean this way, you must like ___, otherwise, you’re out of the club — the art is no longer liked, the viewer who identifies with the club is forced to say they like it.

Thank you! Knee jerk faux admiration for art because the other side doesn’t like it is literally how art dies.

I’m sure people on here wouldn’t agree with Miles Davis’ or James Brown’s treatment of women, but Kind of Blue is a masterpiece that will be talked about 500 years from now despite their politics.

No one will give a damn about Bad Bunny 10 years from now.

I’m PP. I think tastes vary and are personal. I believe there are some people who truly liked it for whatever reason. Hard to say what will be remembered, if remembered at all.

I agree with you that there is a lot of outward support for ___ (insert the halftime show or something else) purely bc people feel pressured to say so to stay in line with one of the two political clubs even when they don’t like something. Sad.

There is a lot of sneetch behavior here.

I am well on the other side of 50 and a lifelong football fan. Some halftime shows have been better over the years. This one, the choreography, camera work etc were fantastic. I don't speak a lick of spanish, but the vignettes presented told universal stories that anyone can appreciate. Well, almost anyone.

I thought it was memorable and well done. I think the worst thing a Super Bowl show could be is forgettable. The Justin Timberlake (the 2018 show), Maroon 5, and Rihanna were just plain forgettable to me.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s your thoughts?

A collosal bore! Bad Bunny keeps grabbing his crotch. It's an English speaking audience so sing in English! But Trump must be having a conniption fit so it was a good show after all!

Kid Rock grabs his crotch, sings about molesting your daughter (it’s mandatory), and sings in, at best, trailer trash.

And that’s better?

I don't listen to Kid Rock or any of his contemporaries. My listening pleasure is strictly classical.

A famously popular genre to headline the superbowl halftime show.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why politics is so lame. A bunch of people on here pretending something was good because the other team doesn’t like it.

Prince’s halftime show was literally 1 million times better than this. Please let’s stop pretending this was any good just because Trump doesn’t like him. Liking art because of politics is how art dies.

And yet I suspect Prince would have appreciated the artistry and power of this halftime show.

Perhaps. OTOH, Prince might have been asked to headline were he still alive and we wouldn’t be having this debate.

Sure, maybe. Anyway, I thought it was great. Creative, surprising, high energy, with exquisite attention to detail. That was Broadway-level set design.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why politics is so lame. A bunch of people on here pretending something was good because the other team doesn’t like it.

Prince’s halftime show was literally 1 million times better than this. Please let’s stop pretending this was any good just because Trump doesn’t like him. Liking art because of politics is how art dies.

As such an expert on art, you surely understand that terms like "like" are subjective, and that simply because you didn't like it doesn't mean it was objectively bad or that others could not find things about it to enjoy.

As a Puerto Rican myself, watching this performance made my heart swell with pride and joy. I feel like it was a beautiful celebration of my people and a unique perspective on what it means to love America at a time when loving America is a hard thing to do for people that look like me.

You think it’s great because it caters to your tribe. Got it. It’s a seminal masterpiece. I stand corrected.

My point was that YOU do not get to decide what is and is not good art. The premise of your point is that people who say they enjoyed the performance are saying so not because the performance had any merit as artistry, but rather because we support the political message.

If you truly understood art, you would understand that it is and has always been inherently political, and that many people genuinely enjoyed the performance for a variety of reasons. Your attempt to discredit this kind of art because you didn't like is most likely rooted in your white-centric worldview.

You can absolutely not have enjoyed the performance. You do not get to decide for the rest of us what counts as worthy art.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why politics is so lame. A bunch of people on here pretending something was good because the other team doesn’t like it.

Prince’s halftime show was literally 1 million times better than this. Please let’s stop pretending this was any good just because Trump doesn’t like him. Liking art because of politics is how art dies.

Agree with the bolded.

LOL.

That is a view completely divorced from history and reality. George Orwell said “all art is propaganda” because art and politics have ALWAYS been intertwined. Art asks “how do we live?” and politics tries to answer. Every painting, tv show, and piece of music you have ever seen have answered political questions, from Bad Bunny to Mr. Rogers to the Marvel movies. They will always chase one another.

Art is powerful for sure. However, when the message is if you lean this way, you must like ___, otherwise, you’re out of the club — the art is no longer liked, the viewer who identifies with the club is forced to say they like it.

I’m very liberal. I didn’t watch the superbowl and couldn’t identify bad bunny music for you. And I just don’t know what you are talking about. What club? What on earth are you talking about?

Oh it’s a MAGA cult member talking about cancel culture, while ignoring that MAGA is the most in favor and in practice of canceling things.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why politics is so lame. A bunch of people on here pretending something was good because the other team doesn’t like it.

Prince’s halftime show was literally 1 million times better than this. Please let’s stop pretending this was any good just because Trump doesn’t like him. Liking art because of politics is how art dies.

Agree with the bolded.

LOL.

That is a view completely divorced from history and reality. George Orwell said “all art is propaganda” because art and politics have ALWAYS been intertwined. Art asks “how do we live?” and politics tries to answer. Every painting, tv show, and piece of music you have ever seen have answered political questions, from Bad Bunny to Mr. Rogers to the Marvel movies. They will always chase one another.

Art is powerful for sure. However, when the message is if you lean this way, you must like ___, otherwise, you’re out of the club — the art is no longer liked, the viewer who identifies with the club is forced to say they like it.

Thank you! Knee jerk faux admiration for art because the other side doesn’t like it is literally how art dies.

I’m sure people on here wouldn’t agree with Miles Davis’ or James Brown’s treatment of women, but Kind of Blue is a masterpiece that will be talked about 500 years from now despite their politics.

No one will give a damn about Bad Bunny 10 years from now.

I’m PP. I think tastes vary and are personal. I believe there are some people who truly liked it for whatever reason. Hard to say what will be remembered, if remembered at all.

I agree with you that there is a lot of outward support for ___ (insert the halftime show or something else) purely bc people feel pressured to say so to stay in line with one of the two political clubs even when they don’t like something. Sad.

There is a lot of sneetch behavior here.

I am well on the other side of 50 and a lifelong football fan. Some halftime shows have been better over the years. This one, the choreography, camera work etc were fantastic. I don't speak a lick of spanish, but the vignettes presented told universal stories that anyone can appreciate. Well, almost anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:“When the NFL puts Bad Bunny on the halftime show, it proves that the fascists are in trouble. Not because the NFL has morals, but precisely because it doesn’t. If the fascists were really winning then the NFL would gladly play along with them. Like, remember the Super Bowl during Operation Desert Storm? But right now they don’t see it as a good bet for their business”

Good point by Amy Schneider.

Not really at all. I remember Trump winning the last election after the NFL spent years repainting end zones with antiracism messages. The recent NFL leadership is definitely more left leaning than the NFL in the 1990s and 2000s.

The "NFL Leadership" are billionaire NFL owners, most of whom are Trump supporters. But they are also businessmen who decided that a Puerto Rican superstar performing the halftime show was good for their business.

Maybe the problem isn't Bad Bunny or the skier who spoke out against the administration. Maybe, the problem is the administration and its woefully unpopular gestapo tactics on our city streets.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why politics is so lame. A bunch of people on here pretending something was good because the other team doesn’t like it.

Prince’s halftime show was literally 1 million times better than this. Please let’s stop pretending this was any good just because Trump doesn’t like him. Liking art because of politics is how art dies.

Agree with the bolded.

LOL.

That is a view completely divorced from history and reality. George Orwell said “all art is propaganda” because art and politics have ALWAYS been intertwined. Art asks “how do we live?” and politics tries to answer. Every painting, tv show, and piece of music you have ever seen have answered political questions, from Bad Bunny to Mr. Rogers to the Marvel movies. They will always chase one another.

Art is powerful for sure. However, when the message is if you lean this way, you must like ___, otherwise, you’re out of the club — the art is no longer liked, the viewer who identifies with the club is forced to say they like it.

Thank you! Knee jerk faux admiration for art because the other side doesn’t like it is literally how art dies.

I’m sure people on here wouldn’t agree with Miles Davis’ or James Brown’s treatment of women, but Kind of Blue is a masterpiece that will be talked about 500 years from now despite their politics.

No one will give a damn about Bad Bunny 10 years from now.

I’m PP. I think tastes vary and are personal. I believe there are some people who truly liked it for whatever reason. Hard to say what will be remembered, if remembered at all.

I agree with you that there is a lot of outward support for ___ (insert the halftime show or something else) purely bc people feel pressured to say so to stay in line with one of the two political clubs even when they don’t like something. Sad.

There is a lot of sneetch behavior here.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why politics is so lame. A bunch of people on here pretending something was good because the other team doesn’t like it.

Prince’s halftime show was literally 1 million times better than this. Please let’s stop pretending this was any good just because Trump doesn’t like him. Liking art because of politics is how art dies.

Agree with the bolded.

LOL.

That is a view completely divorced from history and reality. George Orwell said “all art is propaganda” because art and politics have ALWAYS been intertwined. Art asks “how do we live?” and politics tries to answer. Every painting, tv show, and piece of music you have ever seen have answered political questions, from Bad Bunny to Mr. Rogers to the Marvel movies. They will always chase one another.

Art is powerful for sure. However, when the message is if you lean this way, you must like ___, otherwise, you’re out of the club — the art is no longer liked, the viewer who identifies with the club is forced to say they like it.

I’m very liberal. I didn’t watch the superbowl and couldn’t identify bad bunny music for you. And I just don’t know what you are talking about. What club? What on earth are you talking about?

Anonymous wrote:“When the NFL puts Bad Bunny on the halftime show, it proves that the fascists are in trouble. Not because the NFL has morals, but precisely because it doesn’t. If the fascists were really winning then the NFL would gladly play along with them. Like, remember the Super Bowl during Operation Desert Storm? But right now they don’t see it as a good bet for their business”

Good point by Amy Schneider.

Not really at all. I remember Trump winning the last election after the NFL spent years repainting end zones with antiracism messages. The recent NFL leadership is definitely more left leaning than the NFL in the 1990s and 2000s.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why politics is so lame. A bunch of people on here pretending something was good because the other team doesn’t like it.

Prince’s halftime show was literally 1 million times better than this. Please let’s stop pretending this was any good just because Trump doesn’t like him. Liking art because of politics is how art dies.

As such an expert on art, you surely understand that terms like "like" are subjective, and that simply because you didn't like it doesn't mean it was objectively bad or that others could not find things about it to enjoy.

As a Puerto Rican myself, watching this performance made my heart swell with pride and joy. I feel like it was a beautiful celebration of my people and a unique perspective on what it means to love America at a time when loving America is a hard thing to do for people that look like me.

You think it’s great because it caters to your tribe. Got it. It’s a seminal masterpiece. I stand corrected.

It would probably be in your best interest to back away, your tortured logic is kind of embarrassing.

DP. You’re a bot.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why politics is so lame. A bunch of people on here pretending something was good because the other team doesn’t like it.

Prince’s halftime show was literally 1 million times better than this. Please let’s stop pretending this was any good just because Trump doesn’t like him. Liking art because of politics is how art dies.

Agree with the bolded.

LOL.

That is a view completely divorced from history and reality. George Orwell said “all art is propaganda” because art and politics have ALWAYS been intertwined. Art asks “how do we live?” and politics tries to answer. Every painting, tv show, and piece of music you have ever seen have answered political questions, from Bad Bunny to Mr. Rogers to the Marvel movies. They will always chase one another.

Art is powerful for sure. However, when the message is if you lean this way, you must like ___, otherwise, you’re out of the club — the art is no longer liked, the viewer who identifies with the club is forced to say they like it.

Thank you! Knee jerk faux admiration for art because the other side doesn’t like it is literally how art dies.

I’m sure people on here wouldn’t agree with Miles Davis’ or James Brown’s treatment of women, but Kind of Blue is a masterpiece that will be talked about 500 years from now despite their politics.

No one will give a damn about Bad Bunny 10 years from now.

“When the NFL puts Bad Bunny on the halftime show, it proves that the fascists are in trouble. Not because the NFL has morals, but precisely because it doesn’t. If the fascists were really winning then the NFL would gladly play along with them. Like, remember the Super Bowl during Operation Desert Storm? But right now they don’t see it as a good bet for their business”

Good point by Amy Schneider.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why politics is so lame. A bunch of people on here pretending something was good because the other team doesn’t like it.

Prince’s halftime show was literally 1 million times better than this. Please let’s stop pretending this was any good just because Trump doesn’t like him. Liking art because of politics is how art dies.

As such an expert on art, you surely understand that terms like "like" are subjective, and that simply because you didn't like it doesn't mean it was objectively bad or that others could not find things about it to enjoy.

As a Puerto Rican myself, watching this performance made my heart swell with pride and joy. I feel like it was a beautiful celebration of my people and a unique perspective on what it means to love America at a time when loving America is a hard thing to do for people that look like me.

You think it’s great because it caters to your tribe. Got it. It’s a seminal masterpiece. I stand corrected.

It would probably be in your best interest to back away, your tortured logic is kind of embarrassing.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why politics is so lame. A bunch of people on here pretending something was good because the other team doesn’t like it.

Prince’s halftime show was literally 1 million times better than this. Please let’s stop pretending this was any good just because Trump doesn’t like him. Liking art because of politics is how art dies.

Agree with the bolded.

LOL.

That is a view completely divorced from history and reality. George Orwell said “all art is propaganda” because art and politics have ALWAYS been intertwined. Art asks “how do we live?” and politics tries to answer. Every painting, tv show, and piece of music you have ever seen have answered political questions, from Bad Bunny to Mr. Rogers to the Marvel movies. They will always chase one another.

Art is powerful for sure. However, when the message is if you lean this way, you must like ___, otherwise, you’re out of the club — the art is no longer liked, the viewer who identifies with the club is forced to say they like it.