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Anonymous wrote:Sadly based on some of the comments in this thread and elsewhere on social media, the county isn’t deep blue enough. Hopefully that changes this November and in 2028. Hoping that many of these students will be of age and registered to vote later this year.

Yeah this county isn't nearly as blue as some of you are making it out to be. Remember we have the opt-out bigots.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly based on some of the comments in this thread and elsewhere on social media, the county isn’t deep blue enough. Hopefully that changes this November and in 2028. Hoping that many of these students will be of age and registered to vote later this year.

Which comments? The ones that said protesting in a very safe, liberal area is not really that effective and for kids who have just missed alot of school due to the weather would be better spent learning? And to have a more meaningful impact, actually do activism instead of virtue signaling? Those comments? Because that’s what I see. Notice I don’t object to actual content of the protest - only the method and target audience in terms of effectiveness. They could’ve organized a big rally before or after school and invited speakers who work with immigration activists and then raised money for some applicable cause instead. They could’ve done a lot of things that much more effective and impactful — but that’s if they actually wanted to make a difference instead of preaching to the choir.

But yeah, I guess any criticism however warranted is verboten in your eyes.

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly based on some of the comments in this thread and elsewhere on social media, the county isn’t deep blue enough. Hopefully that changes this November and in 2028. Hoping that many of these students will be of age and registered to vote later this year.

Which comments? The ones that said protesting in a very safe, liberal area is not really that effective and for kids who have just missed alot of school due to the weather would be better spent learning? And to have a more meaningful impact, actually do activism instead of virtue signaling? Those comments? Because that’s what I see. Notice I don’t object to actual content of the protest - only the method and target audience in terms of effectiveness. They could’ve organized a big rally before or after school and invited speakers who work with immigration activists and then raised money for some applicable cause instead. They could’ve done a lot of things that much more effective and impactful — but that’s if they actually wanted to make a difference instead of preaching to the choir.

But yeah, I guess any criticism however warranted is verboten in your eyes.

Anonymous wrote:Sadly based on some of the comments in this thread and elsewhere on social media, the county isn’t deep blue enough. Hopefully that changes this November and in 2028. Hoping that many of these students will be of age and registered to vote later this year.

Anonymous wrote:Sadly based on some of the comments in this thread and elsewhere on social media, the county isn’t deep blue enough. Hopefully that changes this November and in 2028. Hoping that many of these students will be of age and registered to vote later this year.

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Anonymous wrote:... and that made an impact on ICE policies? Congratulations on an early exposure to pointless protests. Were they wearing an "I stand with Minnesota" sticker while walking out of class?

Why do you hate America and its children?

Some of us are worried our kids will be taken by ice. We got bigger problems than worrying about you wearing a sticker.

And many BCC students are worried about their friends and classmates being taken by ICE. Or their friends’ parents being taken. I am proud of these kids for exercising their right to free speech.

No. This is more performative BS so they can write a better college essay. Like preaching to the converted so they can feel better about themselves without actually doing anything. How about doing this in front of DHS HQ or maybe a deep red area of state or country and in an area that ICE is targeting? Maybe then I’d see this as something meaningful.

+1000. This is "Armchair activism"

Said the person sitting on her duff writing cranky messages on an anonymous chat board 😂

DP. But that’s all you got? An ad hominem attack? I guess that’s the last refuge when the facts are inconvenient. This isn’t a “protest” with real consequences. This isn’t the March on Selma or a sit in. Heck, they couldn’t even be bothered to do this on their own time! What they are doing is the equivalent of virtue signaling with a “in this house sign, we believe”. A less charitable read is they’re cutting class and getting away with it while using the current issue of the day as cover. You know, like they did with BLM and Ukraine flags over the last several years. Oh yeah, where’s the activism now and what difference did those make? Doesn’t make as good copy for the college essay this year?

Do you have this attitude when college students protested Palestine, Iraq War, etc.? Student activism happens on school campuses in both K-12 and higher ed. This has always been the case.

Why would high schoolers not be allowed to protest current events but college students can?

Your feelings aren't based on the law or even a consistent logic.

You just created a straw man. No one is talking about college students. We’re talking about high school kids legally required to be in school who also just lost more than a week to snow days. They’re not making a difference to anyone but themselves and frankly, that time would’ve been better spent learning. Want to protest and make an impact? Do it on your own time and do it where you speak truth to power. And face the potential consequences of doing so. This ain’t it. This is a sad Potemkin village of a protest.

It is not a strawman. Just because they are minors does not mean they are stripped of their Constitutional rights as we KEEP telling you.

You also are a poor student of history.

SOURCE: https://time.com/7266632/history-high-school-student-activism/

High school students are organizing politically in ways reminiscent of their counterparts more than 50 years ago. When people think of student activism, they typically picture college campuses. Yet, during the 1960s and 1970s, teenagers built social movements that intersected with broader grassroots struggles and responded to both local and national issues. This activism is little remembered today, in part because it remained largely localized and national coverage was short lived. But these youth-led movements have had a long-lasting impact on school districts across the U.S., and they can provide young people today with clues as to what enables successful student activism.

In the mid 1960s, with the Vietnam War intensifying and Black Power and Chicano movements rising, teenagers once again emerged on the political front lines as they advocated for civil and constitutional rights, as well as curriculum changes and other reforms to improve their education. These protests occurred all across the nation, in large cities, suburbs, and small towns.

Activism among high school students often began with small acts such as by protesting the war by wearing black armbands. But this symbolic move carried consequences. In December 1965, when a group of teenagers in Des Moines, Iowa arrived to school wearing the insignia, school officials suspended them and barred them from returning until they removed the material. The students responded with a lawsuit against the school district, which eventually went before the U.S. Supreme Court.

In 1969, in Tinker v. Des Moines, the Court ruled that “It can hardly be argued that either students or teachers shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate.” The decision established unequivocally that students had at least some free speech rights. Even so, school officials continued to challenge the boundaries of what they could say and do.

Undeterred by the pushback from administrators and the potential for discipline, many teenagers joined anti-war organizations, while others created their own groups and organized their peers. They pressured school districts to offer classes about the draft and legal alternatives, invited anti-war speakers to offset the influence of military recruiters, and negotiated with administrators to leave class for major demonstrations.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Go away, please.

No, I think I’ll stay because I’ve clearly touched a nerve. I’m well aware of what actual activism looks like and this isn’t it. This is a tantrum, a spectacle, and doesn’t speak to those that they would hope to influence. You, of course, ignored all that and assume by asking these kids to do this on their own time AND to the powers that be that could actually influence change, that I’m somehow depriving them of their constitutional rights. No, all you wanted was to bask in the praise of your fellow UMC liberal, Bethesda parents. So that we’d all nod and say, “how brave your DD is!” Instead of why did he/she walk out when we’re already behind in learning this quarter? And why aren’t they focused on protesting in front of DHS or ICE or even just raising money for immigration charities?

Stop with your gross generalizations and assumptions.

1) I'm not a Bethesda parent
2) You ignored the many examples in the Time piece I linked to where kids protested for antiwar and civil rights ON THEIR high school campuses
3) No one is giving these Bethesda kids the Medal of Freedom. But it's also nice to see that they have a conscience and feel a civic urge to push back against authoritarianism and fascism. Also, this literally affects them and their peers since there have been ICE raids near MCPS schools already: https://www.mymcmedia.org/mink-students-staff-horrified-by-ice-actions-near-eastern-middle-school/ This is a real and serious threat for any MCPS school community so why shouldn't they protest???

School is where kids learn to engage with the world. It's viewed as both their second home and their place of employment. They have every right to protest there and the Supreme Court has ruled that to be the case already. Your arguments are nonsensical. Give it up.

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Anonymous wrote:... and that made an impact on ICE policies? Congratulations on an early exposure to pointless protests. Were they wearing an "I stand with Minnesota" sticker while walking out of class?

Why do you hate America and its children?

Some of us are worried our kids will be taken by ice. We got bigger problems than worrying about you wearing a sticker.

And many BCC students are worried about their friends and classmates being taken by ICE. Or their friends’ parents being taken. I am proud of these kids for exercising their right to free speech.

No. This is more performative BS so they can write a better college essay. Like preaching to the converted so they can feel better about themselves without actually doing anything. How about doing this in front of DHS HQ or maybe a deep red area of state or country and in an area that ICE is targeting? Maybe then I’d see this as something meaningful.

+1000. This is "Armchair activism"

Said the person sitting on her duff writing cranky messages on an anonymous chat board 😂

DP. But that’s all you got? An ad hominem attack? I guess that’s the last refuge when the facts are inconvenient. This isn’t a “protest” with real consequences. This isn’t the March on Selma or a sit in. Heck, they couldn’t even be bothered to do this on their own time! What they are doing is the equivalent of virtue signaling with a “in this house sign, we believe”. A less charitable read is they’re cutting class and getting away with it while using the current issue of the day as cover. You know, like they did with BLM and Ukraine flags over the last several years. Oh yeah, where’s the activism now and what difference did those make? Doesn’t make as good copy for the college essay this year?

Do you have this attitude when college students protested Palestine, Iraq War, etc.? Student activism happens on school campuses in both K-12 and higher ed. This has always been the case.

Why would high schoolers not be allowed to protest current events but college students can?

Your feelings aren't based on the law or even a consistent logic.

You just created a straw man. No one is talking about college students. We’re talking about high school kids legally required to be in school who also just lost more than a week to snow days. They’re not making a difference to anyone but themselves and frankly, that time would’ve been better spent learning. Want to protest and make an impact? Do it on your own time and do it where you speak truth to power. And face the potential consequences of doing so. This ain’t it. This is a sad Potemkin village of a protest.

It is not a strawman. Just because they are minors does not mean they are stripped of their Constitutional rights as we KEEP telling you.

You also are a poor student of history.

SOURCE: https://time.com/7266632/history-high-school-student-activism/

High school students are organizing politically in ways reminiscent of their counterparts more than 50 years ago. When people think of student activism, they typically picture college campuses. Yet, during the 1960s and 1970s, teenagers built social movements that intersected with broader grassroots struggles and responded to both local and national issues. This activism is little remembered today, in part because it remained largely localized and national coverage was short lived. But these youth-led movements have had a long-lasting impact on school districts across the U.S., and they can provide young people today with clues as to what enables successful student activism.

In the mid 1960s, with the Vietnam War intensifying and Black Power and Chicano movements rising, teenagers once again emerged on the political front lines as they advocated for civil and constitutional rights, as well as curriculum changes and other reforms to improve their education. These protests occurred all across the nation, in large cities, suburbs, and small towns.

Activism among high school students often began with small acts such as by protesting the war by wearing black armbands. But this symbolic move carried consequences. In December 1965, when a group of teenagers in Des Moines, Iowa arrived to school wearing the insignia, school officials suspended them and barred them from returning until they removed the material. The students responded with a lawsuit against the school district, which eventually went before the U.S. Supreme Court.

In 1969, in Tinker v. Des Moines, the Court ruled that “It can hardly be argued that either students or teachers shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate.” The decision established unequivocally that students had at least some free speech rights. Even so, school officials continued to challenge the boundaries of what they could say and do.

Undeterred by the pushback from administrators and the potential for discipline, many teenagers joined anti-war organizations, while others created their own groups and organized their peers. They pressured school districts to offer classes about the draft and legal alternatives, invited anti-war speakers to offset the influence of military recruiters, and negotiated with administrators to leave class for major demonstrations.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Go away, please.

No, I think I’ll stay because I’ve clearly touched a nerve. I’m well aware of what actual activism looks like and this isn’t it. This is a tantrum, a spectacle, and doesn’t speak to those that they would hope to influence. You, of course, ignored all that and assume by asking these kids to do this on their own time AND to the powers that be that could actually influence change, that I’m somehow depriving them of their constitutional rights. No, all you wanted was to bask in the praise of your fellow UMC liberal, Bethesda parents. So that we’d all nod and say, “how brave your DD is!” Instead of why did he/she walk out when we’re already behind in learning this quarter? And why aren’t they focused on protesting in front of DHS or ICE or even just raising money for immigration charities?

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Anonymous wrote:... and that made an impact on ICE policies? Congratulations on an early exposure to pointless protests. Were they wearing an "I stand with Minnesota" sticker while walking out of class?

Why do you hate America and its children?

Some of us are worried our kids will be taken by ice. We got bigger problems than worrying about you wearing a sticker.

And many BCC students are worried about their friends and classmates being taken by ICE. Or their friends’ parents being taken. I am proud of these kids for exercising their right to free speech.

No. This is more performative BS so they can write a better college essay. Like preaching to the converted so they can feel better about themselves without actually doing anything. How about doing this in front of DHS HQ or maybe a deep red area of state or country and in an area that ICE is targeting? Maybe then I’d see this as something meaningful.

+1000. This is "Armchair activism"

Said the person sitting on her duff writing cranky messages on an anonymous chat board 😂

DP. But that’s all you got? An ad hominem attack? I guess that’s the last refuge when the facts are inconvenient. This isn’t a “protest” with real consequences. This isn’t the March on Selma or a sit in. Heck, they couldn’t even be bothered to do this on their own time! What they are doing is the equivalent of virtue signaling with a “in this house sign, we believe”. A less charitable read is they’re cutting class and getting away with it while using the current issue of the day as cover. You know, like they did with BLM and Ukraine flags over the last several years. Oh yeah, where’s the activism now and what difference did those make? Doesn’t make as good copy for the college essay this year?

Do you have this attitude when college students protested Palestine, Iraq War, etc.? Student activism happens on school campuses in both K-12 and higher ed. This has always been the case.

Why would high schoolers not be allowed to protest current events but college students can?

Your feelings aren't based on the law or even a consistent logic.

You just created a straw man. No one is talking about college students. We’re talking about high school kids legally required to be in school who also just lost more than a week to snow days. They’re not making a difference to anyone but themselves and frankly, that time would’ve been better spent learning. Want to protest and make an impact? Do it on your own time and do it where you speak truth to power. And face the potential consequences of doing so. This ain’t it. This is a sad Potemkin village of a protest.

It is not a strawman. Just because they are minors does not mean they are stripped of their Constitutional rights as we KEEP telling you.

You also are a poor student of history.

SOURCE: https://time.com/7266632/history-high-school-student-activism/

High school students are organizing politically in ways reminiscent of their counterparts more than 50 years ago. When people think of student activism, they typically picture college campuses. Yet, during the 1960s and 1970s, teenagers built social movements that intersected with broader grassroots struggles and responded to both local and national issues. This activism is little remembered today, in part because it remained largely localized and national coverage was short lived. But these youth-led movements have had a long-lasting impact on school districts across the U.S., and they can provide young people today with clues as to what enables successful student activism.

In the mid 1960s, with the Vietnam War intensifying and Black Power and Chicano movements rising, teenagers once again emerged on the political front lines as they advocated for civil and constitutional rights, as well as curriculum changes and other reforms to improve their education. These protests occurred all across the nation, in large cities, suburbs, and small towns.

Activism among high school students often began with small acts such as by protesting the war by wearing black armbands. But this symbolic move carried consequences. In December 1965, when a group of teenagers in Des Moines, Iowa arrived to school wearing the insignia, school officials suspended them and barred them from returning until they removed the material. The students responded with a lawsuit against the school district, which eventually went before the U.S. Supreme Court.

In 1969, in Tinker v. Des Moines, the Court ruled that “It can hardly be argued that either students or teachers shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate.” The decision established unequivocally that students had at least some free speech rights. Even so, school officials continued to challenge the boundaries of what they could say and do.

Undeterred by the pushback from administrators and the potential for discipline, many teenagers joined anti-war organizations, while others created their own groups and organized their peers. They pressured school districts to offer classes about the draft and legal alternatives, invited anti-war speakers to offset the influence of military recruiters, and negotiated with administrators to leave class for major demonstrations.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Go away, please.

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Anonymous wrote:... and that made an impact on ICE policies? Congratulations on an early exposure to pointless protests. Were they wearing an "I stand with Minnesota" sticker while walking out of class?

Why do you hate America and its children?

Some of us are worried our kids will be taken by ice. We got bigger problems than worrying about you wearing a sticker.

And many BCC students are worried about their friends and classmates being taken by ICE. Or their friends’ parents being taken. I am proud of these kids for exercising their right to free speech.

No. This is more performative BS so they can write a better college essay. Like preaching to the converted so they can feel better about themselves without actually doing anything. How about doing this in front of DHS HQ or maybe a deep red area of state or country and in an area that ICE is targeting? Maybe then I’d see this as something meaningful.

+1000. This is "Armchair activism"

Said the person sitting on her duff writing cranky messages on an anonymous chat board 😂

DP. But that’s all you got? An ad hominem attack? I guess that’s the last refuge when the facts are inconvenient. This isn’t a “protest” with real consequences. This isn’t the March on Selma or a sit in. Heck, they couldn’t even be bothered to do this on their own time! What they are doing is the equivalent of virtue signaling with a “in this house sign, we believe”. A less charitable read is they’re cutting class and getting away with it while using the current issue of the day as cover. You know, like they did with BLM and Ukraine flags over the last several years. Oh yeah, where’s the activism now and what difference did those make? Doesn’t make as good copy for the college essay this year?

Do you have this attitude when college students protested Palestine, Iraq War, etc.? Student activism happens on school campuses in both K-12 and higher ed. This has always been the case.

Why would high schoolers not be allowed to protest current events but college students can?

Your feelings aren't based on the law or even a consistent logic.[/quote

Protests happening in K-12? Mine 7 year old will protest that there is no outdoor recess, sure. Or do you actually really believe that elementary age kids are in the weeds of current politics?