I was surprised to learn: Hopkins was one of the first elite schools to get rid of legacy admissions. It has a lot of $ and a large financial aid budget due to the generosity of Bloomberg's donations. It has a very diverse student body and has very well regarded humanities and social sciences and music. Because of their emphasis on research, I always thought of Hopkins as a stem oriented school but seems like it has many other academic strengths.

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Anonymous wrote:It's like Chicago, but not controversial, so nothing to discuss.

I don’t think either are controversial, since neither of these ED1 and ED2 schools are top 10 schools. (Yes, I know Chicago also has ED0, EA, and ED3 - don’t want to sell it short.)

ED3? Please. No matter what, you rankings-obsessed parents manage to bring up Chicago. It's actually laughable. And the entire time, its just the same old tired argument that ED rounds negates an entire school's academic merit. You see institutions solely through the lens of their admissions. Chicago & Hopkins are T10 schools. Argue with the wall, Towson alumna.

Not top 10. Because it isn't better than Ivies, Duke, MIT or Cal Tech. So that is already 11. I could argue with you about a few others as well but those are non-negotiable. I would personally choose Vandy or Northwestern over Hopkins but those two are definitely subject to debate and I wouldn't die on that hill.

UChicago is far better than Cornell, Dartmouth, and Brown. I would say better than Duke too, but theyre about equal.

My kid got into Brown and Hopkins and it was an easy choice to take Brown. College Hill/Providence is such a better college experience.

Most people would pick Brown, but not purely for location reasons. Open curriculum and grade inflation makes college fun and a breeze relative to most high schools.

I find it funny how much UChicago and Johns Hopkins have in common with one another. Always slighted for having ED2, called places where fun goes to die, criticized for their "dangerous" locations, and accused of being fake T10 schools. They should band together against the DCUM stay at home moms shoving their personal T10 lists in others' faces.

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Anonymous wrote:It's like Chicago, but not controversial, so nothing to discuss.

I don’t think either are controversial, since neither of these ED1 and ED2 schools are top 10 schools. (Yes, I know Chicago also has ED0, EA, and ED3 - don’t want to sell it short.)

ED3? Please. No matter what, you rankings-obsessed parents manage to bring up Chicago. It's actually laughable. And the entire time, its just the same old tired argument that ED rounds negates an entire school's academic merit. You see institutions solely through the lens of their admissions. Chicago & Hopkins are T10 schools. Argue with the wall, Towson alumna.

Not top 10. Because it isn't better than Ivies, Duke, MIT or Cal Tech. So that is already 11. I could argue with you about a few others as well but those are non-negotiable. I would personally choose Vandy or Northwestern over Hopkins but those two are definitely subject to debate and I wouldn't die on that hill.

UChicago is far better than Cornell, Dartmouth, and Brown. I would say better than Duke too, but theyre about equal.

My kid got into Brown and Hopkins and it was an easy choice to take Brown. College Hill/Providence is such a better college experience.

Anonymous wrote:After being on this forum for a while, I've noticed that nobody really talks about Johns Hopkins, even though it's a top 10 (people often forget) and is elite for pre-med and sciences. Is there a reason why? Is it just that unpopular, given that many of us live in the DMV, or is there something I've missed.

Dcum is too close; location bias. The rest of the country treats like a T10-15

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Anonymous wrote:DC's considering getting recruited for track. We went to look at JHU campus, including their athletic facilities, and said facilities are in bad shape. It's a D3 school, yes, but still.. Hopkins shares their track stadium with Loyola Maryland, it's located outside of main campus, a 15-minute drive through a questionable area away, and the stadium itself is pretty sad-looking. Our MCPS high school track looks like Paris Olympic stadium in comparison.

FWIW, their soccer and lax stadiums are on main campus, so I guess it speaks to the school's priorities, in sports and otherwise

Just my 2 cents.

Oof good to know. My track kid was considering it but I definitely don't want him wandering in a bad neighborhood late at night.

This is a non issue. Not to mention Loyola is in an even nicer hood than Hopkins.

Said it like a true Baltimore native.

the area around loyola is million dollar houses

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Anonymous wrote:DC's considering getting recruited for track. We went to look at JHU campus, including their athletic facilities, and said facilities are in bad shape. It's a D3 school, yes, but still.. Hopkins shares their track stadium with Loyola Maryland, it's located outside of main campus, a 15-minute drive through a questionable area away, and the stadium itself is pretty sad-looking. Our MCPS high school track looks like Paris Olympic stadium in comparison.

FWIW, their soccer and lax stadiums are on main campus, so I guess it speaks to the school's priorities, in sports and otherwise

Just my 2 cents.

Oof good to know. My track kid was considering it but I definitely don't want him wandering in a bad neighborhood late at night.

This is a non issue. Not to mention Loyola is in an even nicer hood than Hopkins.

surprising as Hopkins was and is perennially among the top D3 sports programs:

https://hopkinssports.com/news/2024/6/11/general-hopkins-wins-second-consecutive-learfield-directors-cup.aspx

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Anonymous wrote:DC's considering getting recruited for track. We went to look at JHU campus, including their athletic facilities, and said facilities are in bad shape. It's a D3 school, yes, but still.. Hopkins shares their track stadium with Loyola Maryland, it's located outside of main campus, a 15-minute drive through a questionable area away, and the stadium itself is pretty sad-looking. Our MCPS high school track looks like Paris Olympic stadium in comparison.

FWIW, their soccer and lax stadiums are on main campus, so I guess it speaks to the school's priorities, in sports and otherwise

Just my 2 cents.

Oof good to know. My track kid was considering it but I definitely don't want him wandering in a bad neighborhood late at night.

This is a non issue. Not to mention Loyola is in an even nicer hood than Hopkins.

Said it like a true Baltimore native.

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Anonymous wrote:DC's considering getting recruited for track. We went to look at JHU campus, including their athletic facilities, and said facilities are in bad shape. It's a D3 school, yes, but still.. Hopkins shares their track stadium with Loyola Maryland, it's located outside of main campus, a 15-minute drive through a questionable area away, and the stadium itself is pretty sad-looking. Our MCPS high school track looks like Paris Olympic stadium in comparison.

FWIW, their soccer and lax stadiums are on main campus, so I guess it speaks to the school's priorities, in sports and otherwise

Just my 2 cents.

Oof good to know. My track kid was considering it but I definitely don't want him wandering in a bad neighborhood late at night.

This is a non issue. Not to mention Loyola is in an even nicer hood than Hopkins.

Since most people on this forum are DMV parents, we see the name Johns Hopkins plastered on every other hospital & clinic, and therefore see Hopkins as a hub of medicine, bio, and healthcare. Schools that pigeonhole themselves into one specific academic discipline (like Caltech, MIT, HMC) tend to not be top of mind for parents whose children don't fit their niche. I won't deny that Hopkins doesn't have amazing programs for other disciplines, but medicine/STEM controls the campus. Also, in this day and age, DCUM posters love to push the idea that you can "backdoor" into T20s by majoring in undersubscribed majors like classics and medieval history, but that doesn't seem to work at Hopkins.

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Anonymous wrote:DC's considering getting recruited for track. We went to look at JHU campus, including their athletic facilities, and said facilities are in bad shape. It's a D3 school, yes, but still.. Hopkins shares their track stadium with Loyola Maryland, it's located outside of main campus, a 15-minute drive through a questionable area away, and the stadium itself is pretty sad-looking. Our MCPS high school track looks like Paris Olympic stadium in comparison.

FWIW, their soccer and lax stadiums are on main campus, so I guess it speaks to the school's priorities, in sports and otherwise

Just my 2 cents.

Oof good to know. My track kid was considering it but I definitely don't want him wandering in a bad neighborhood late at night.

I wasn’t aware that Hopkins uses Loyola’s stadium for track, but the Loyola stadium is not in a bad area nor is the drive to the stadium from Hopkins through a bad area. My kid’s private school sometimes rents time at the Loyola stadium for winter practices, and our soccer club sometimes rents it out as well, so plenty of UMC families consider it acceptable, Your kid would be in no danger of ”wandering into a bad area.”

Anonymous wrote:Someone earlier in the thread mentioned Caltech, and I think it's a good comparison when it comes to why there's less chatter about it here.

They're both objectively outstanding schools that, based on their strengths, are likely to attract a fairly narrow range of students. (Before JHU alums shout me down, I think this isn't entirely fair to Hopkins, as it has great strengths outside of STEM as well - but not well known by many).

As someone that knew professors from Caltech, MIT and Hopkins - by far, they reported CalTech was really beyond nerdy/intense of these 3. Hopkins had a party culture for grad school. Might be different these days as the younger folks seem to not drink as much.

Anonymous wrote:Someone earlier in the thread mentioned Caltech, and I think it's a good comparison when it comes to why there's less chatter about it here.

They're both objectively outstanding schools that, based on their strengths, are likely to attract a fairly narrow range of students. (Before JHU alums shout me down, I think this isn't entirely fair to Hopkins, as it has great strengths outside of STEM as well - but not well known by many).

I think it is just more well known by high schoolers and internationally without spam marketing. it gets more applications than several ivies for example. it’s not truly niche with a smaller applicant pool like caltech.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm OP, can we recenter this thread onto why Hopkins might be overlooked? My kid wants to ED, I think it’s a great school for them, & I want informed opinions.

Major? ED1? Male or female?

ED1, Female, W school, 4.00 UW, 1570, Public Health, Bio, & IR. And no, she isn't Asian nor 100% white.

3 things is 1-2 too many. IR will be the easiest admit. Apply for that - if you have the narrative. Public health and Bio are stereotypically female….ED should be good.

IR is also mostly female, more so than bio at Hopkins.

Not in applications they are not, and we are talking about admissions. IR is an easier admit.

how do you know for sure? hopkins had 25k women and 20k men apply 2 years ago:
https://oira.jhu.edu/wp-content/uploads/CDS_2024-2025_JHU.pdf

Logic. IR is an easier admit for men and women than bio. For bio majors, applications are going to follow the national trend, which is far greater than 60-40 bio. If JHU gets it down to 60-40 for actual majors, then female bio applicants have a tougher road at the admit gate. BTW, int’l applicants skew male everywhere, relatively speaking, so don’t treat domestic the same.

Anonymous wrote:DC's considering getting recruited for track. We went to look at JHU campus, including their athletic facilities, and said facilities are in bad shape. It's a D3 school, yes, but still.. Hopkins shares their track stadium with Loyola Maryland, it's located outside of main campus, a 15-minute drive through a questionable area away, and the stadium itself is pretty sad-looking. Our MCPS high school track looks like Paris Olympic stadium in comparison.

FWIW, their soccer and lax stadiums are on main campus, so I guess it speaks to the school's priorities, in sports and otherwise

Just my 2 cents.

Oof good to know. My track kid was considering it but I definitely don't want him wandering in a bad neighborhood late at night.

Someone earlier in the thread mentioned Caltech, and I think it's a good comparison when it comes to why there's less chatter about it here.

They're both objectively outstanding schools that, based on their strengths, are likely to attract a fairly narrow range of students. (Before JHU alums shout me down, I think this isn't entirely fair to Hopkins, as it has great strengths outside of STEM as well - but not well known by many).