Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For engineering programs, ask ANY college about their 4yr graduation rate *with an engineering degree* of students who started in engineering.

Really top programs (like MIT) and some mid-tier programs have a 90+% graduation rate with an engineering degree.

Some other programs have a lower graduation rate. VT is roughly 70-75% (calculated by dividing the graduating class size by number of students entering engineering 4 yrs earlier).

ABET seems to say the national average 4yr graduation rate with an engineering degree is around 2/3 - or 67%.

Source for MIT's engineering-specific 4-year grad rate? Overall it's more like 83% (US News/MIT CDS), 6-year mid-90s—better than most publics, but expected from a tiny elite private that cherry-picks the brightest kids. National engineering 4-year average is 33% (ASEE data). Hopefully you don't work with numbers, because inflating MIT to 90%+ while lowballing the national average is some sloppy math.

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That person constantly posts the same things. They are a booster for certain school that isn't ranked well in engineering but manages to have a high graduation rate anyway. It's kind of funny.

Anonymous wrote:For engineering programs, ask ANY college about their 4yr graduation rate *with an engineering degree* of students who started in engineering.

Really top programs (like MIT) and some mid-tier programs have a 90+% graduation rate with an engineering degree.

Some other programs have a lower graduation rate. VT is roughly 70-75% (calculated by dividing the graduating class size by number of students entering engineering 4 yrs earlier).

ABET seems to say the national average 4yr graduation rate with an engineering degree is around 2/3 - or 67%.

Anything above 67% is perfectly fine.

Anonymous wrote:My kid loved loved the hustle and bustle of central campus. But was going in as engineering major- strip mall city nearby. Really turned him off.
Happily at UMd now.
Had he not been engineering major, he’d be at Michigan.
(We are happy to be saving $$$)

I don't understand your post too well but if you mean there's a strip mall city near U of M North Campus, that's because it's like a small version of Rockville Pike with grocery stores, apartments, and restaurants. People have to get food somewhere if they don't live on campus.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid loved loved the hustle and bustle of central campus. But was going in as engineering major- strip mall city nearby. Really turned him off.
Happily at UMd now.
Had he not been engineering major, he’d be at Michigan.
(We are happy to be saving $$$)

Maryland’s campus turned him on? It’s a ten minute bus ride between the campuses in A2. He could have majored in business and had been placed in a dorm on north campus.

Wouldn’t say it turned him on. And in fact, he’s on south campus with engineering classes on north. But he can bike easily rather than waiting for bus. He’s very happy with UMd. (Full ride helped as well).

Yeah that “full ride” thing you that you neglected to mention earlier.

Some MIT data from MIT:
"https://ir.mit.edu/projects/more-student-data/"

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For engineering programs, ask ANY college about their 4yr graduation rate *with an engineering degree* of students who started in engineering.

Really top programs (like MIT) and some mid-tier programs have a 90+% graduation rate with an engineering degree.

Some other programs have a lower graduation rate. VT is roughly 70-75% (calculated by dividing the graduating class size by number of students entering engineering 4 yrs earlier).

ABET seems to say the national average 4yr graduation rate with an engineering degree is around 2/3 - or 67%.

Source for MIT's engineering-specific 4-year grad rate? Overall it's more like 83% (US News/MIT CDS), 6-year mid-90s—better than most publics, but expected from a tiny elite private that cherry-picks the brightest kids. National engineering 4-year average is 33% (ASEE data).

From your note, it sounds like ASEE data is different than the ABET data. PP was clear they were using ABET data.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid loved loved the hustle and bustle of central campus. But was going in as engineering major- strip mall city nearby. Really turned him off.
Happily at UMd now.
Had he not been engineering major, he’d be at Michigan.
(We are happy to be saving $$$)

Maryland’s campus turned him on? It’s a ten minute bus ride between the campuses in A2. He could have majored in business and had been placed in a dorm on north campus.

Wouldn’t say it turned him on. And in fact, he’s on south campus with engineering classes on north. But he can bike easily rather than waiting for bus. He’s very happy with UMd. (Full ride helped as well).

Anonymous wrote:For engineering programs, ask ANY college about their 4yr graduation rate *with an engineering degree* of students who started in engineering.

Really top programs (like MIT) and some mid-tier programs have a 90+% graduation rate with an engineering degree.

Some other programs have a lower graduation rate. VT is roughly 70-75% (calculated by dividing the graduating class size by number of students entering engineering 4 yrs earlier).

ABET seems to say the national average 4yr graduation rate with an engineering degree is around 2/3 - or 67%.

Source for MIT's engineering-specific 4-year grad rate? Overall it's more like 83% (US News/MIT CDS), 6-year mid-90s—better than most publics, but expected from a tiny elite private that cherry-picks the brightest kids. National engineering 4-year average is 33% (ASEE data). Hopefully you don't work with numbers, because inflating MIT to 90%+ while lowballing the national average is some sloppy math.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DC is at Purdue for mechanical engineering and loves it. When talking about bang for the buck, please check tuition rates. Purdue has frozen tuition going to 13(?) years. No idea how long it will continue. But it is an OOS bargain! Almost same as instate VT when you add in the extra fees as an engineering major (PS - check on that if you don’t know - schools add additional fees for certain majors). I can’t say enough good things about it. And PP is right - easier in theory to get into, hard to get out of. It’s a highly regarded program because it is rigorous and the rankings reflect that. Good luck to all your students applying; difficult but exciting time

It’s on my daughter’s list to apply for engineering. Can you elaborate why your son picked it over other well regarded programs?

My son picked it because of a lot of different factors. His interest in majoring in engineering came on somewhat late in the whole application process so he also applied into business programs. As the process went along, he became more sure about engin. Purdue was not on his list at the beginning, but he added it. Once he got in, he visited it and just loved everything about it. He prob chose it over 5 or more other schools (biz programs had been ruled out) and just had the feeling that’s where he belonged. He was definitely impressed with ranking, whether people value it or not. So it’s really a difficult question when people ask “which one?” You lay out all the pros and cons and you go with that gut feeling. He loves it, almost 3 full years in. Junior year first semester almost did him in, but he got through it. He’s been in a fraternity and that’s been very fun for him as well. Hope that helps!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid loved loved the hustle and bustle of central campus. But was going in as engineering major- strip mall city nearby. Really turned him off.
Happily at UMd now.
Had he not been engineering major, he’d be at Michigan.
(We are happy to be saving $$$)

Maryland’s campus turned him on? It’s a ten minute bus ride between the campuses in A2. He could have majored in business and had been placed in a dorm on north campus.

South campus is actually hopping. My DC lived near north campus second year; third year went near south campus. Very different vibe.

in at Purdue, VTech and UMich, deferred UT AUstin , rejected Princeton, waiting on the others

For engineering programs, ask ANY college about their 4yr graduation rate *with an engineering degree* of students who started in engineering.

Really top programs (like MIT) and some mid-tier programs have a 90+% graduation rate with an engineering degree.

Some other programs have a lower graduation rate. VT is roughly 70-75% (calculated by dividing the graduating class size by number of students entering engineering 4 yrs earlier).

ABET seems to say the national average 4yr graduation rate with an engineering degree is around 2/3 - or 67%.