Anonymous wrote:Whether nurses perform a needed service or not isn't the issue. The issue is their market value. That's determined by supply and demand. Going on strike merely means the supply is either excessive, or the demand is not high. Otherwise, any nurse could go to another employer to get the pay they want. If nobody else will provide that pay, that's the market speaking.

It is the issue when they’re taking public money, which all three of these hospitals do. They have $100B for AI, the most expensive hospital construction project in history, and they’ll leave a laboring mother alone in a room because they won’t agree to safe staffing ratios. Your tax dollars at work.

Anonymous wrote:Whether nurses perform a needed service or not isn't the issue. The issue is their market value. That's determined by supply and demand. Going on strike merely means the supply is either excessive, or the demand is not high. Otherwise, any nurse could go to another employer to get the pay they want. If nobody else will provide that pay, that's the market speaking.

Weird, is this what you said when autoworkers went on strike? It’s a protected right.

Go nurses!!

As a new grad I burned myself into the ground. No time to eat or go to the bathroom. Patients dying. People crying. I asked for safer ratios. Management said no and made me wear a badge asking if I had “earned a 5”.

I left and never looked back.

You go girls! Get it!!!

Whether nurses perform a needed service or not isn't the issue. The issue is their market value. That's determined by supply and demand. Going on strike merely means the supply is either excessive, or the demand is not high. Otherwise, any nurse could go to another employer to get the pay they want. If nobody else will provide that pay, that's the market speaking.

OP- sounds like you’re jealous… maybe you should have become a nurse- not too late!

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Anonymous wrote:Do you know 1. How expensive it is to live in NYC? 2. How expensive a nursing degree can be to get? 3. That there is a nationwide nursing shortage, making their skills in high demand?

Funny how people like you always believe in capitalism and free markets, except when it comes to actually having to value labor. Do you also take issue with the extremely bloated hospital executive pay? Or is it just the people doing the actual work who shouldn't expect to be compensated well?

Sounds like we need more h1bs

DP. Not if they’re foreign trained. What you save in salaries you’ll pay out in malpractice claims

Anonymous wrote:Nurses are a bit over hyped.

To make sure to decline their services next time you’re in the hospital then.

Nurses are a bit over hyped.

Looks like it’s working! News reports are at the hospitals are back at the table.

Anonymous wrote:NYC nurses striking claiming it is due to workload and staffing levels. Meanwhile, they're already making $165k and want to increase it up to $275k at some NY hospitals. GMAFB. That is grotesque overpay for a 4 year degree job. We are supposed to now compensate nurses more than many family docs? Talk about wage inflation spiral. If nurses make $275k I guess we have to pay teachers $200k and docs $1M now.

USA wages and cost of labor are out of control.

Have you ever been a nurse? And at a busy and complicated health care setting. If you haven't done that work, stfu.

Here’s a Youtube video of a labor and delivery nurse (not in NY) talking about staffing ratios. The comments on the video really drive home the point of what can happen with insufficient staffing. When I gave birth the first time, I barely saw my nurse. The second time, I think the nurse checked in on us more regularly, but they were still very brief visits and they barely got someone there in time for the actual birth. I don’t know what their patient load at the time was, but I think they both must have had many more patients than the 2 that current standards set as a limit. Fortunately, my babies were delivered safely, but in retrospect I think they needed more staff.

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Anonymous wrote:Well you all will be happy to know that DC hospitals are still paying new grad RN/BSNs around 75K to start and most make around 100K with 10+ years experience. You can easily make only $50K here if you're working in a physician's office or $80K in research or care management.

I have no no idea where OP gets the 275K figure from.

Can you people frigging read?

The NYT article was posted. NYC nurses make an AVERAGE of $165k already. At one hospital, the union is making demands that would push averages all the way up to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. The median HHI in NYC is $128k. They are demanding upwards of double the HHI. Ridiculous.

And the CEO gets upwards of 50 times the household income, what is your point?

This person is arguing that nurses make too much but the CEO is compensated fairly. i.e. This person is not capable of formulating a logical opinion, and certainly they aren’t capable of having a rational discussion.

Even if you got rid of the ceo that wouldn't help the salaries more than 10 bux a person

Its not only the CEO at any if these hospitals making well into the millions. Whole corporate levels making seven figures— paid by you.

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Anonymous wrote:Well you all will be happy to know that DC hospitals are still paying new grad RN/BSNs around 75K to start and most make around 100K with 10+ years experience. You can easily make only $50K here if you're working in a physician's office or $80K in research or care management.

I have no no idea where OP gets the 275K figure from.

Can you people frigging read?

The NYT article was posted. NYC nurses make an AVERAGE of $165k already. At one hospital, the union is making demands that would push averages all the way up to $275k.

Ridiculous over compensation. The median HHI in NYC is $128k. They are demanding upwards of double the HHI. Ridiculous.

And the CEO gets upwards of 50 times the household income, what is your point?

This person is arguing that nurses make too much but the CEO is compensated fairly. i.e. This person is not capable of formulating a logical opinion, and certainly they aren’t capable of having a rational discussion.

Even if you got rid of the ceo that wouldn't help the salaries more than 10 bux a person

Sounds good to me. Get rid of the CEo.

Anonymous wrote:Do you know 1. How expensive it is to live in NYC? 2. How expensive a nursing degree can be to get? 3. That there is a nationwide nursing shortage, making their skills in high demand?

Funny how people like you always believe in capitalism and free markets, except when it comes to actually having to value labor. Do you also take issue with the extremely bloated hospital executive pay? Or is it just the people doing the actual work who shouldn't expect to be compensated well?

Sounds like we need more h1bs

Go nurses!!!! Totally support your strike. Hospitals don't work without nurses so they better figure out how to get these folks what they are asking for. They deserve excellent conditions and every penny they're asking for.